• May 11th 2010 at 2:53PM
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Nissan Leaf EV – Click above to watch the video after the jump

If you happened to be watching CBS Evening News this past weekend, you might have noticed a story about electric vehicles with a focus on the upcoming Nissan Leaf. While most of the report was pretty innocuous and familiar to readers of this site – especially the interview with our friends from Plug In America – there was one little tidbit that caught some attention.

The story claimed that the Leaf could accelerate from 0-60 miles per hour in just five seconds. While Tesla has proven it is certainly possible to make a very fast electric car, we didn't recall Nissan ever making such claims about the Leaf. We checked with Nissan spokeswoman Katharine Zachary who confirmed that no acceleration numbers have ever been quoted for the Leaf. We haven't driven a production-spec Leaf, but Zachary suspects that the producers of the CBS story must have accidentally pulled the acceleration numbers for the 370Z. Check out the video of the CBS report after the jump. Hats off to Peter for the tip!



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      • 5 Years Ago
      The 0-6 wil be about 9 seconds. Don't compare the weight to a Tango and make assumptions, the Leaf only has an 80kw motor, the Tango has two 9" brute force DC motors and a Zilla 2k capable of 260 KW of conservative peak power set at 130V.

      The leaf weighs about 3300-3400 lbs as stated by Nissan. Even at 3000 lbs it's going to perform very average in 0-60 and modifications would be a waste of time and money for an EV of this weight class. Even a AC Propulsion conversion in a 3300 lb car only does 0-60 in about 7 seconds and the leaf powertrain pales next to the ACP system. Wishful thinking is not going to get this car above 8 seconds which would be a real reach, 9 seconds is realistic and good for the specs. The FWD will not be the limiting issue but rather the weight and power.

      • 5 Years Ago
      That's okay, because the whole rest of the video is devoid of substance as well. Besides announcing the coming of the Nissan Leaf, it doesn't say much of anything, then tries to offer a counter-argument from some random joe who wouldn't know an electric car from a hole in the ground.

      Poor reporting all around for this story. How did this guy even get to work for CBS?
        • 5 Years Ago
        SO typical. Way tot get the "other side of the story" from some ignorant gear head.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yeah; he even said, "early adapters".
      • 5 Years Ago
      LOL! There is no way it will do it under 5 seconds. Idiots.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Nozferat

        Yeap, CBS couldn't have found a more appropriate face for oil. Everything about oil is old, antiquated, and plain gross. I can't wait to drive off in my guilt free LEAF.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Maybe they meant 0-30 in 5 seconds.

        I think the number from nissan was 0-60 in under 9 seconds.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Tony Wood should be one of the first people down at the Gulf right now cleaning up the sh^t he uses so much of....fking idiot.
      • 5 Years Ago
      What a dumbass meathead they found to interview. "What are ya gonna do? Run an extension cord??"

      I think reporters are trained to find the worst people to put on camera.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Look at the rest of the story. They wanted a moron to represent the gasoline argument, so they went out and found this idiot.

        Why do these reporters get to keep their jobs?
      • 5 Years Ago
      The old RAV4EV with OLD! NiMh tech. Still running.
      Juice up the old NiMh tech and it can compete with liion. (doesn't cobasys even claim it does?)
      Imho it was one of the biggest mistakes to sub press this technology.
      The patents should be taken away from Chevron. No really.

      From 0-60 in 5 Seconds. Well maybe they got it wrong, but that would be a seller ;)
        • 5 Years Ago
        There is no way it will do 5 secs out of the box; but, you know once it's on the road, some car guys will modify it and below 5 secs won't be a big deal, especially if it starts to have a cult following like the original 240Z.

        I can hardly wait for mine.
        • 5 Years Ago
        That was a redacted article. No pollution for electric vehicles? If the power grid uses fairy dust. $0.03/mile to drive? Seems misleading unless you note that you are only talking about energy costs, put assumed electric rates and a comparable like 25 mpg for $2.80/gallon gas is $0.11/mile. They should also note sources on graphics like the 0-60 time of 5 seconds needed a quoted source.

        No fact checking in the press lately.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Larzen, Toyota actually sold most of their RAV4 EVs when the lease program ended, unlike GM and Honda.

        NiMH batteries are durable and reliable, and have nearly 3x better energy density compared to lead acid, but the energy density isn't as good as LiIon. It also seems likely that with improvements, LiIon will end up less expensive per Kwh stored.
        • 5 Years Ago
        What are they doing with a RAV EV? I thought they were leased only, and the lease
        was terminated. No?
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Larzen
        No the Toyota Rav4EVs were sold after protests.
        And they are still running with "forbidden technology" (nimh)
        After the lease expired they could be bought.

        The Nissan hompage claims a top speed of 90mph but gives no 0-60 numbers.
        who knows. ^_^
        "No exact 0-60 at this point, but it has surprisingly quiet and effortless acceleration."

        rgds
        • 5 Years Ago
        Is that kind of acceleration even possible in a front-wheel drive vehicle like the Leaf?
      • 5 Years Ago
      "Nissan predicts a 0-60 mph time of about 9-10 seconds."

      and

      "Leaf has the same 0-60 mph times as the sporty Infiniti G35"

      0-60mph time for the G35 is 5.4 seconds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_G#2007.E2.80.932008_G35_sedan

      Glad that's all cleared up!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Ernie,
      Its quite possible for a front wheel drive vehicle to accelerate that fast.
      Equipped with the proper tires and transmission of course. It requires technology that has been out for at least 20 years so not too far fetched to see on a new car. I doubt this one will do 0 to 60 in five seconds off the lot, but it could.

      Some colleagues and I have gotten some FWD cars in to the 9 second range in the quarter mile. Took research and testing, something im sure Nissan could do better than us.

      Got one of these FWD microcars as my daily driver last year. Love it but wish they made AWD variants.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Although this is not confirmed it certainly has been the rumor.

      How is this possible? The leaf will generate 100% peak torque off the line and a fully charged battery has 90Kw of energy. This certainly may be possible and I won't be surprised IF this claim is substantiated. However I do expect the 0-60 figures to be somewhere in this ball park.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @FitFan
        I don't think the range issue plays as big a part. The highway efficiency matters more there, not necessarily acceleration performance (and it's nothing a sport mode button couldn't solve).

        First, the motor will limit the acceleration. Next is that there is a limit to the output safe power of the battery. So even with software tuning, it is unlikely the Leaf can do 0-60 in 5 seconds.

        I think it will be in the 8-10 second range (depending on if there is a sport mode), or Prius/small hatch territory, which actually isn't too bad.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Nissan will never allow sprints like this in the Leaf. That would kill the range, and range anxiety is the main hurdle for a mainstream electric car. You should expect Prius like performance off of the line.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I suspect if they took off the limiters on the Leaf, designed to conserve the battery, it might well do 0-60 in around 5 seconds, and it would certainly shift like heck up to 30mph in any case.
      However, partly to make the driving experience more familiar and partly to conserve energy, I believe that the performance has been modified.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Typo boys and girls...

      Probably should have read 0-60 mph in 15 seconds...
        • 5 Years Ago
        Um... swing and a miss
      • 5 Years Ago
      Nothing like accurate reporting. How many times have networks posted false information about things which we are less informed about?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Like Nissan will EVER let the Leaf come close to the 350Z or the 370Z in performance terms.

      The Leaf will get better gas mileage than any other Nissan car for the first 80 or so miles. After that EVERY other Nissan car will be hundreds of miles farther down the road and then in another 80 or so miles EVERY other Nissan car will add ANOTHER couple hundred miles to that gap. Just go buy a fricken' Prius for g*dsakes!
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