• May 11th 2010 at 8:33PM
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T. Boone Pickens may not know exactly what's up with V-Vehicles, a company that he's invested in that wants to make high-mileage vehicles, but he does claim to know some things. During his opening keynote speech at the AFVI Expo in Las Vegas, for example, the long-time oilman and big natural gas promoter said that he thinks God put tremendous amounts of the fossil fuel under the United States for us to use. Specifically, he said:
We got lucky. We showed up with a resource that is even better than the oil, which is natural gas. Where did it come from? It came from our technology in this country in developing the shale. ... I'm convinced, as I get closer and closer to going – I'm 82 and what I mean by going is serious going – that I want to be sure and give all credit where I think it should go. I'm not kidding you, I think it's divine intervention is what happened to the United States. We now have more [natural gas] reserves than any other country in the world.
Read on after the jump to find out more about the plan Pickens has for all that gas, and more.



As he's done for years now, Pickens used his AFVI Expo appearance to preach to the choir about natural gas. Since AFVI is a fleet-friendly show and fleets are where natural gas most commonly used for transportation in the U.S., this makes sense. Pickens is also sick of waiting, saying that he's heard Presidents all the way back to Nixon say the U.S. would be off of oil, promising energy independence:
I keep repeating what Obama said. Obama said in ten years we will not import any oil from the Mideast. Now, we're two years into his first administration and he has not mentioned that again and no one in the press has asked him, "How are we doing with getting off of oil?" I think that question will be asked at some point.
One reality from Pickens' 2008 AFVI speech – that the world can only produce about 85 million barrels a day, and "that's about all you can do" – is still with us. To deal with this reality, the U.S. needs to have a coherent national energy plan (he, of course, wants it to look like the Pickens Plan). Pickens didn't call for a state-owned oil company in the U.S., but he did point out that 70 percent of all the oil in the world is controlled by state-owned oil companies. "We have no game, no team," he said. "If you think it's a free market, you're kidding yourself. OPEC is not a free market." Why do we need a plan? Because Pickens predicts that, in ten years, the U.S. will be importing 75 percent of our oil and we will be paying $300-400 a barrel for it.

A big problem with getting his oil alternative of choice in place, Pickens said, is that, "People don't really get natural gas. If we found 700 million barrels of oil under the U.S., there'd be a lot of people who get that." But with natural gas, how to use it for transportation is kind of lost on legislators and other stakeholders. This might change with H.R. 1835: New Alternative Transportation to Give Americans Solutions Act of 2009 (aka NAT GAS and S.B. 1408), which begins moving America's vehicles off of oil by getting big semi-trucks to burn CNG. Pickens prefers OEM CNG installations to conversions, but he's in favor of anything that is done by Americans and uses American resources. "We're going to replace dirty foreign with clean, cheap natural gas. It will start with heavy duty and we'll see how far it goes," he said. He's impatient to get things moving, but said, "It is really slow in Washington to make progress. It is really, really slow."

Pickens' love of all energy sources American extends to off-shore oil drilling, even when there's a tragedy. He said he does not want to capitalize on someone else's loss, but an accident like what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico should not stop drilling or natural gas extraction. He said there have been only two oil spills of any real note in the U.S. – the Santa Barbara spill in 1969 and the current one in the Gulf (the Exxon Valdez was a drunk that ran into a rock, he said to laughter) – and two accidents that happened 40 years apart is "not a bad record," he said.

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      • 5 Years Ago
      When people start flashing their J*sus and G*d cards I immediately lose a ton of respect for them. Yeah, Pickens G*d blessed us with these natural resources. He thought about this billions of years ago. IF you're gonna play the "G*d blessed us" card then you better play that card when natural disasters and other epidemics happen also not just when things are good. It's not a one way street.
        • 5 Years Ago
        So about this BP mishap? Is god conveying a notion upon us concerning oil use?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Exactly - it's just like these annoying athletes that thank Jesus when they win, but don't mention him when they lose.
      BipDBo
      • 5 Years Ago
      The same logic is used when some people say that New Orleans has been punished by God by Katrina and no an oil spill, or that the Hindu nations have been cursed with Tsunami.

      Jesus onced addressed this issue by refering to a construction accident that had recently happened, killing several people. He asked the question, "Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish." - Luke 13:4-5. I think Jesus would agree with a certain bumper sticker slogan coined by Forest Gump. Other biblical illustrations are the book of Job and the parable of the rich man and the poor man, Lazarus. There are however, records of God specifically blessing or cursing both individuals and nations.

      In conclusion, we do not know why some seem to blessed and others cursed. We also have tunnell vision and cannot discern if something that looks like a blessing may actually be a curse, and vise-versa. Unless we are specifically told by God's voice in the clouds, it's probably best not to speculate His intentions, but rather to be thankful for what we have.

      Interesting blog, though, at the intersection of 3 of my interests; cars, politics and religion.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @BipDBo
        Wow, Noz:

        "Your belief in religion does make you arrogant and evil because you automatically look down upon people who do not believe in it."

        There are people that fit this description...including, you? Did you actually stop a minute and read that sentence as if someone else wrote it? Do you not see that you are acting exactly the same way?

        This rabid, venomous anger serves no purpose other than to insulate yourself from responsibility for your own behavior. You are not going to win arguments and influence people in a constructive way by acting like this.

        Furthermore, by doing so, you give the rest of us, who understand nature as you do, a bad rap. Please stop.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @BipDBo
        Your belief in religion does make you arrogant and evil because you automatically look down upon people who do not believe in it. That's my point. I've met very nice religious people and then I've met people like you and Frank.

        The evidence of God? What evidence? Israel is no evidence...lol. Are you for real? This is precisely why so many people over there are now suffering under the hands of the Israelis...exactly due to this type of brainwashing nonsense and utter arrogance.

        Who the hell do you (and they) think you are to treat other human beings the way you do because you believe it's written in some book that you can do so? If that's not the epitomy of racist and egotistical behavior...then what is?

        Learn your history about man-made religion. The history of Christ is the same as the history of so many other deities that came before him. It's the same man-made story re-iterated over and over and over again until enough people begin to worship it blindly.

        Whether there is a creator or not has nothing to do with importance. What you are saying then that unless there is a creator, there's no need to be a decent human being? What utter BS and nonsensical mentality is that? What that tells me is that you're only acting like a decent human being to cover your sorry a$$ in case there is a creator? Pathetic. You can't be a decent person otherwise??? What does that say about you and your religion? It's a ultra self-centered, opportunistic attitude.

        Honestly, figure out how to be a decent human being for the sake of just being one...not because the eye in the sky is going to strike you down.

        BipDBo
        • 5 Years Ago
        @BipDBo
        @Time to Think

        Thank you. 30 minutes after I made my last post on this thread, I lost my father in law to an unexpected, massive heart attack. He was a very loving, generous man. This is an enormous loss to myself, but even more so to his direct family. I have actually enjoyed this discourse, but at this time, it feels good to be defended.

        @Nozferat:
        I understand your anger at many Christians. There are many very dangerous views that are based, quite frankly on people just not reading scripture well. You have assumed many things about my views based on views that you have been exposed to before.

        I've said all that I can say on this thread. I wish you all well.
        BipDBo
        • 5 Years Ago
        @BipDBo
        Are you even reading the posts to which you are replying?

        First of all, I was showing that it is a Biblical teaching that bad stuff just happens, and we must except it.

        Second, we have a difference in what we believe to be true. We may both make attempts in the hopes to sway the other to our belief, but we must accept this difference. My belief in religion does not make me evil or arrogant. You believe that there is no intelligent creator. If that is true, then the idea of importance is irrelevant, along with good or evil. Each person is therefore a collection of molecules colliding in a course predetermined by physics at the big bang like a bunch of pools balls rolling around after the break. It makes no moral different if one collection of molecules rips apart another collection of molecules. It was inevitable, and after all, that collection of molecules that made a person is no more important than the collection that makes an ant, right? Maybe that's why atheist tend to be pro-choice. If there is anyone else left reading this thread, I'm sure I'll get some comments on that one.

        Anyway, this is only an emotional appeal for the desire of existence in God, not an argument for it. I believe in the existence of God based on evidence. Specifically, I believe in the God revealed through the people of ancient Israel and Jesus Christ. I fully admit that I could be wrong, but that is the risk I take.

        The arguments for the existence of God are numerous, so rather than just dogmatically assert my belief in Him as you have done so for your disbelief, I will refer you to other resources. First, I recommend the works of Lee Strobel, particularly "The Case for a Creator." The writing is simple, but helpful. Secondly, I recommend the philosophical arguments of Ravi Zacharias.

        I wish you well in your search for the truth, as I hope you also do for me.

        Physics bless you.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @BipDBo
        You can't see who some are blessed and others cursed because that's life...it has nothing to do with religion or God. It's simply the way it is. Unfortunately that's too simplistic and unsatisfying answer for many like yourself. You need more to justify your existence.

        Humans are no more important in terms of existence than an ant is. You need to accept that and move on. If there is a God, that entity certainly didn't make you or any other human any more pertinent and special than anything else on this planet or universe. You need to accept that as well.

        Human arrogance and religious arrogance are raising their ugly heads here. We are puny and insignificant as far as the overall scheme of things go.

        Just because you can't explain various things that happen around doesn't mean you need to resort blindly believing in an entity that you have not one shred of evidence showing it exists or believing in a book that has as much violence and hate in it as any good war novel does.

        If you want to reach an understanding about what's happening around you and what part you play in all this, be part of your surroundings...be part of the one thing that keeps you alive...the natural world around you. Have respect for it, cherish it, embrace it. And stop assuming it's all there just for you.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Believing in God clearly renders a smart position on a clean, domestic alternative to oil invalid.
        • 5 Years Ago
        What's with the hostility Joeviocoe? An petrol-free future will only happen if [homophobic, moral-majority, NRA-card-holding] Conservatives and [bleeding-heart frothing-at-the-mouth] Enviro-zealots get together and stop painting ugly pictures of each other.

        That is why I find articles like this one slightly distasteful - though I usually like Mr. Blanco's stuff.
        • 5 Years Ago
        you spelled "undermined" wrong.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Thanks Joeviocoe. You just underlined my my point.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Believing in God"? No... just believing that Americans are God's chosen people to receive his blessing of fossil fuels damages his credibility.

        And making statements like you just did, renders your position invalid.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Hmmmm....

      Maybe god left it for the native americans and we are tools of satan?

      On that note: A couple relevant verses....

      "Oh my name it is nothin'
      My age it means less
      The country I come from
      Is called the Midwest
      I's taught and brought up there
      The laws to abide
      And the land that I live in
      Has God on its side.

      Oh the history books tell it
      They tell it so well
      The cavalries charged
      The Indians fell
      The cavalries charged
      The Indians died
      Oh the country was young
      With God on its side."

      ....etc, etc....
      excerpted from
      "With Go on Our Side"
      ... by Bob Dylan
      • 5 Years Ago
      I don't believe in God but if he were to insure that my Leaf came before the end of the tax year I would give him a chance. A good sign would be a free charging point hidden in the back seat so I know it was him. Got that God:)

        • 5 Years Ago
        Rotflmao. Count me in on that deal
      • 5 Years Ago
      "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" ~ Samuel Johnson
      • 5 Years Ago
      Pickens proving once again that he's an idiot. He only pushes NG because he can make lots of money from it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Pickens is an old man. I doubt that making his fortune any bigger, at this
        stage of his life, is the thrill he's seeking. I think he really wants to make
        a difference and help bail this country out.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yes, but he's a billionaire. John, you're not!
        • 5 Years Ago
        So he just happened to focus on the one thing that will make him lots of cash? Sure. If he really wants to help the country he can spend his money on battery research and production, and getting lightweight aerodynamic vehicles on the road. Frankly his natural gas would be better used in generating plants than vehicles.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Richard, right his God given fortune, because it is God's will to make some men exuberantly rich while making others dirt poor.

        I thought Christianity taught people not to use God's name in vain and to be humble human beings, but Today Christians use God's name to promote discrimination against gays, ignorance against climate change and now to justify the use of hydrocarbons. Where does the hypocrisy stop?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Pickens's comment about God seems totally non-controversial to me. If God didn't give the USA our natural gas reserves, then who did? (Assuming you're a believer, I mean.)

      Here's the catch, though. . . God also gave the USA vast deposits of crude oil -- which we've largely burned through in a scant few decades. How long will the gas last if we squander it the same way? Not long. . .

      Surely it must be disrespectful to accept His bounty and then not use it wisely.

      Nikola Tesla (who may or may not have been a Christian, I dunno) wrote in 1911 that burning fossil fuels was "a crime against future generations". I think history has proved him spot-on.
        • 5 Years Ago
        And the controversy lies in the recipient not the source. (although that is another topic for debate)

        If some creator, or just nature, made the oil and natural gas... remember, it is a fossil fuel. Millions of years before human... let alone countries.

        Intention is a fools game.... maybe God (or the FSM) made oil and natural gas for some species yet to come.. or just as a vault to keep Carbon out of the atmosphere. And here we come along, opening Pandora's Box of global warming to the demise of us all.... dun, dun, duuuun.

        • 5 Years Ago
        It's called nature. Nature produced the resources we are using today. End of story.
      harlanx6
      • 5 Years Ago
      I hear a lot of demonizing of people trying to make a profit. That's a bunch of drivel. Some loser calling Pickens an idiot is the height of arrogance and pomposity. Some of you people really don't have a clue how things work. Who is on God's side? I don't know! All I know is our kids need jobs, and to have jobs, we need a vibrant economy, and for a vibrant economy we need energy that is available now!
        harlanx6
        • 5 Years Ago
        @harlanx6
        What a pompous ass. I might think your comments would be worth consideration, but then I considered the source.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @harlanx6
        Yes I am...because I call out idiots like you. Grow some balls and go and clean up the mess you leave behind and somehow justify it your crazy brain.



        • 5 Years Ago
        @harlanx6
        *standing ovation*

        North America and Russia both have natural gas like Saudi Arabia has oil.
        No matter what energy source you use, it's gonna cost you. Let's not pretend that replacing batteries every 5-10 years is gonna be cheap and won't profit anyone.

        As for the environment, Natural gas is super clean when it is burned. Leaks are the main concern.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @harlanx6
        We have a vibrant economy.....the problem is you want it to keep growing without any end in site and that's not possible.

        If you're so concerned about profit being good...why don't you do us all a favor and go and clean the toxic sh7t that so many "profitable" corporations have left behind everywhere around the world so you can say "profit is good." Start with Bhopol. Go and tell the kids there with no arms, no eyes, brain damage and cancer that "profit" is good.

        Then move onto Shell's mass destruction the Amazon river with over 1500 open pit toxic dumps that have levels of toxicity over 3000 times what the EPA allows.

        It's easy to drivel on about "profit" when you 10000 miles away and have no freaking concept of cause and effect.
        harlanx6
        • 5 Years Ago
        @harlanx6
        You Sir, Are who I was talking about.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I wonder of Mr. Pickens would consider consulting God on how to use the profits from all that gas? I do seem to remember Jesus saying something about rich men, needles, and heaven.

      Although in my ignorance I can't say, Pickens may give huge chunks of his cheddar to various charities. If so, good on him.
        • 5 Years Ago
        People love to simplify things into black and white, good and evil, saints and sinners.

        But this guy Pickens, is smart. He may give a large portion to charity, he may have some good intentions... but he also wants to make profits for himself and his shareholders. He may bend the truth, or use influence to achieve this. so what?

        I may not like all of his decisions, and certainly not this arrogant statement... but I don't think of him as malicious.
        • 5 Years Ago
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_boone_pickens#Philanthropy

        Huge chunks indeed.

        He's a pretty good guy. I dunno why everyone assumes he's a total corporate sleazebag.
        I have worked on advertising for a few of his charity campaigns, the wikipedia list is far from complete, actually.

        Dunno why everyone assumes he's a douchebag from the get go.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I hope the rapture comes soon - it will be much more peaceful and rational around here without people like him.

      Then again, with all the strife and craziness around, maybe the rapture happened a long time ago, but we didn't notice because there aren't that many people that would truly qualify. We humans are so self-important and make some truly spectacular assumptions.

      Seriously, he's praising the development of shale for fossil fuels and calling it divine intervention? What a money-grubbing, polluting whore, pimping God like only a born-again Texas douchebag can. Anyone see a "666" tattoo on him somewhere?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Or maybe it is clean renewable energy which god made for us and wishes us to seek the way of using.

      Maybe satan but the natural gas there to distract us from this task.
      Trying to get us to take the easy route of further exploiting a bit of the old rock until there is nothing left of it.
      Distracting us from the true salvation of working toward actual clean renewable energy.
        BipDBo
        • 5 Years Ago
        @mike:

        Clean renewable energy is a great goal, but it is certainly not the "true salvation." If that is your ultimate hope, I pity you.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Now you're talking Mike. Now I believe in God:)
        • 5 Years Ago
        Then pity me you must, I think Bip - if I may call you Bip.

        The discovery of a way to produce clean renewable energy on a large efficient scale would transform mankind.
        It would take away a majority of the incentive for war and aggression between countries.
        It would allow clean water and food for everyone it if were applied wisely.

        The only major hurdles after that would be disease and religion.
        And space travel at some point.
        This old rock isn't going to last forever.
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