• Apr 27th 2010 at 4:01PM
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Just a few days back, Ford unveiled a brand new EcoBoost engine in Beijing. This engine, a 1.0-liter inline three-cylinder, will become one of the company's most efficient powerplants ever. Aside from engine size and number of cylinders, Ford was reluctant to release any more information for us to go on, but we speculated that the engine would produce about 105 horsepower and maybe find its way into a Fiesta in the future. In addition, we expect diesel-like efficiency and around 50 miles per gallon from this motor with CO2 ratings under 100 grams per kilometer.

Reportedly, a Ford source has now offered up some more info that points to us having to wait a long while for this ultra-efficient powerplant and that's not something we're thrilled about. Automotive News quotes this unnamed Ford source as stating:
For North America, it is a ways off. It certainly has been talked about to come here, but there is not a vehicle for it yet.

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      • 8 Months Ago
      These small cars the best, really all I need on a day to day basis. I think it will be great when Ford brings these smaller options to the U.S.
      • 8 Months Ago
      Wow...I must have stumbled into the local Greenpeace forum. Forgive me for the sin of actually wanting to enjoy my driving experience! Heck, I'd love a Tesla Roadster as much as the next guy, but I don't have a spare $120k just sitting around. This engine would be great in a Ka-sized vehicle, and would be suitable as a base engine for the Fiesta. But considering the added cost of turbocharging and direct injection relative to the current Fiesta's N.A. 1.6, I'm just wondering if it would be worth it in such a price-sensitive market segment.
      • 8 Months Ago
      This engine has 2 balance shafts the NVH levels are probably too high for anything but econo-cars. Right now people need to feel like their not sacrificing anything by downsizing or else they'll get driven back into their "captains chair" SUV's.
        • 8 Months Ago
        Maybe without balance shafts, but with them it shouldn't be a problem.

        I worked for a car rental shop and drove the old 3 cyl sprint, it wasn't rougher than a small 4 cyl and probably didn't even have balance shafts.

        I read a recent study 3 cyl is is more efficient than 4 cyl and is good for up to about 1.5L.

      • 8 Months Ago
      I know everyone's been going gaga over this engine, but personally, I'd rather see a 1.6 EcoBoost in the Fiesta and the 2.0 EB in the Focus. I'm having a hard time understanding the sudden enthusiasm for engines that are less powerful than current offerings, but are more expensive, and only show a fractional gain in real-world efficiency.
        • 8 Months Ago
        Oh, so what you're saying is you want cars to go faster. Wow, revolutionary. Very green too.
      • 8 Months Ago
      If you added it to an electric motor through one of the new dual clutch transmissions it would seem to work.
      • 8 Months Ago
      At current petrol prices in the US, I highly doubt there would be a bigger market for the engine right now.

      If you consider that the 120HP Fiesta is rated "so underpowerd it is almost unsave" (this is exaggerated from the AB review) by the average US driver, there is no chance this engine will do any better. Remember that the 120HP engine is the most powerful variant sold in europe.
      It is very human to not want to let go any of the amenities achieved over time. So, unless it realy hurts you in your pocket to drive a 30mpg car, people will be reluctant to take one step back.

      Example: my 14 year old daily commuter gets 40mpg and is due to be replaced soon. At euro petrol prices of 7-8$/gal and a 60mi commute (one way) I am into the market for anything that at least doubles the mpg (if not electric).
      • 8 Months Ago
      I know... they can have a bunch of great choices for EU (and other markets) again but fail to have them available here.
      So when gas takes a sudden turn upward they can watch their trucks rot on the showroom floors again and talk about how they can have a viable efficient product in the marketplace in 3 years or so.
      Whoever at Ford was genius enough to realize there might be a way forward by dragging the stereo/entertainment/nav system out of 15 year rut and into the modern world should be moved over to product planning.
      • 8 Months Ago
      When I was in high school one of my buddies got his hands on a '54 VW. We tore around town in that thing and had a ball. It had 25 horse power. It was enough. Pocket change would fill the gas tank then, because fuel was about a quarter a gallon and it got 32 MPG (which was unheard of in the US). A new VW was about $1600. A new Chevy Impala was about $3000.
      Would people now find a need for a real economy car? I think they would. I would.
      • 8 Months Ago
      Seems like this would make a decent range-extender if Ford were to do a plug-in serial-hybrid...

      But then I'm of the mind that GM has grossly overspecced the range extender in the Volt. A 500-650cc v-twin would have been plenty. Of course, they didn't have one of those handy in their parts bin.
      • 8 Months Ago
      I believe the words 'three' and 'cylinder' frighten a lot of people here in the States when used together to describe an engine. Make a 1.0L *four* cylinder and it's reception would be way better, nothing unusual about a 4 banger!

      Or I could be completely wrong.
        • 8 Months Ago
        Your experiances have never led you to the 3 cyclinder turbo Suzuki then it was a blast and you could continually crank the boost, the motor was incredibely light aswell which made the car a blast to drive. Even in a heavily boosted state it still returned awesome MPG.
        • 8 Months Ago
        Maybe because the typical US drive doesn't have history with a quality, properly-designed 3 cylinder engines. The only one I remember is the little-missed Chevy Sprint/Geo Metro 3 cylinder 1.0. A friend had an early Chevy Sprint with one (I did a tune up - cool distributor cap!). Great mileage, but utterly gutless in every other respect.
        • 8 Months Ago
        With DI and turbo, it will put out as much power as an old engine twice the size and lots of low end torque will make it responsive in real world driving
        • 8 Months Ago
        FlappyPaddle -

        Yes, the same engine.

        Except... What is this "boost" of which you speak? :)

        Sorry, no turbo on this particular Sprint. Flooring it and stretching the tach range resulted in more noise - but little acceleration. Yeah, a few pounds of boost would have helped...
      • 8 Months Ago
      ~100hp would be perfect for a 50mpg Fiesta engine option.

      What a missed opportunity (& lack of imagination as to what oil prices are going to be doing over the next 5 years) by Ford Execs - for both a US based Ka and the engine.

      Earth to Ford execs, you could have the Fiesta getting close to Prius mileage, think that would be nice to have when gas is talking to $4 gallon next year and beyond?

      Next thing you know they'll be telling us is that they'll only make ~25,000 Escape Hybrids & 25,000 Fusion Hybrids per year even though demand is far higher - or that they'll only make 5,000 - 10,000 Electric Focus's per year for the first couple of years of production cause you're not sure of demand...oh right, they already told us that.

      Guess this is just par for the course. Oh well, off to Scion whose going to bring their Ka and engine to the US.
        • 8 Months Ago
        The real problem is that there's no way for Ford to make any money in NA on a sub-Fiesta car. I'm just as eager to have this option as the rest of you, but the fact is that margins would be very thin at best. Then consider that many of these sales would cannibalize more profitable Ford sales, and you can see it's a reasonable decision for them. I seriously doubt that the engineering cost of making a Ka crash & emissions-compliant for NA would be worth it, meaning it's a money loser.
        • 8 Months Ago
        I'm with you. I thought with new mpg requirements we'd see actual efficiency-oriented cars. Instead the pinnacle of efficiency is as car that puts down 120HP for a 2600lb car? We had more frugal cars than that in the 90s, and gas was under $2 them.

        I don't get it. Let's take the tech we have and make some more affordable, efficient cars available. We can already make more hot rods.
      • 8 Months Ago
      That is disappointing news to say the least I was hoping for them to atleast offer it as an option after all isnt that part of their new "one ford" slogan?. Here's hoping that the unnamed source is actually someone that isnt in the loop. I mean after all if it puts out even 100 to 110hp and is as effiecent as they are claiming would it not be just as good as the 120ish hp 1.6l? And then that would leave the floor open for the much more powerful turbo 1.6 to come in and knock our socks off with how it performs. But if all this is true about it not coming until the "right" car is here then lets hope the Ka is coming in the next generation.
        • 8 Months Ago
        If thats true its terrible reason.
        • 8 Months Ago
        it probably doesn't meet American safety requirements. (too light).
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