• Mar 16th 2010 at 1:58PM
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Answering the question of whether Mopar's Ram Power Wagon concept is meant to be a competitor to the awe-inspiring Ford SVT Raptor (that'd be a 'no,' it would seem) is a report courtesy of our friends at PickupTrucks.com that Chrysler's go-fast division is also planning to release a long-travel version of the Ram 1500 at the Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, Utah.

Adding credibility to Mopar's off-road-ready Ram "research project" is the presence of veteran Baja racer Kent Kroeker, who's KORE company is already the go-to expert for aftermarket Dodge truck goodies (see photo above of his Ram 2500 racer). Being based on the Ram 1500 means that Chrysler's Raptor-fighter will feature independent suspension at all four corners coil rear springs. We should also expect plenty of suspension travel. Oh, and could this be a hint at the future?

While it's not necessarily expected that the Ram brand will offer such a high-lift, long-travel model in dealerships right off the factory floor, there is a decent chance that the components developed for this concept could end up in a Mopar accessory or KORE catalog (or both?) sometime soon. And you can count us firmly among those looking forward to that.

[Source: PickupTrucks.com]

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      • 5 Years Ago
      @Cranius Lupus
      Yeah dude, that system would have been awesome. Auto-replenishing N.O.S.?!?!
      It was a really cool idea but I have a feeling it was just that. Ford hasn't used it on any other application, and there's been some they could have, which makes me think it either wasn't feasible/simple enough or maybe just didn't work all that well.
      Too bad, it was very Trekkie.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wow, you guys are harsh on the Chrysler brands..

      The F150 is the basis for the Raptor; yes, it has differences. Duh; but it's still "based on the F150". It's got an all-new suspension for an F150, and wider front fenders because of that. I'm not sure why you guys are saying that it's SOO different from a Ram .. I'm going to call it "Rampage" that is based off the Ram.. Same body, hell - maybe even a modded body, like the F150 Raptor. It makes no sense that you guys are simply attacking Chrysler for even THINKING of it.. let alone if they actually succeed and get it done, and better than Ford. I think it'd be better, personally if they'd use the Jeep brand to make stuff like this though. Jeep Gladiator [and not styled like the "Wrangler-pickup" concept, but the original.] would be awesome; although I'm a little partial as I have 3 big Jeeps; '86 Grand Wagoneer, '82 Cherokee Laredo and a '67 Gladiator J300.
      • 5 Years Ago
      lol...i was thinking the same thing
      • 5 Years Ago
      I suspect this is all just a product development for aftermarket Mopar parts..which is all it should be. I would much rather have a Power Wagon over a Raptor. The Rap is just a toy designed for play, whereas the Wagon is purpose built for off road- rock crawling work.

      As both a Chrysler and Ford nut, I say Ford sold out when they built the Raptor and not a Gen III Lightning...and then.
      • 5 Years Ago
      What a great photo though. Man that thing looks monstrous.
        • 5 Years Ago
        That's the KORE Ram 2500 racer, not the as-yet-unknown off-road Ram.

        Still, that is a bad-assed Ram in that photo.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Well, they better top Ford in a big way... and I just don't see it happening by warming over existing models. As Lee Iacocca once said at Chrysler, "you either lead or get out of the way".

      Only the Mopar die-hards would find this appealing... in that sense I guess I can see that they are only looking to stop the hemorrhaging
        • 5 Years Ago
        Level, as one2gamble said, no one could touch the Lightning. The Viper truck was only one or two tenths faster in the quarter and... yup, that's about it. The Dodge sat as high as a 4X4 and used a pretty sloppy 6 speed. Sure it went faster but god forbid you'd have to slow down or turn. It didn't send anybody at SVT running, the '04 F150 was due so that was the end of the gen 2 Lightning.
        Anyway, Dodge (or Ram now?) will have to do a lot of chassis R&D if they want their 1/2 ton fame to stand up to the same punishment as the Raptor's can. Not saying it can't be done, but the F150's is the best in the biz and the Raptor's is that much better.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ngiotta Man I loved the thought of that system. Sucks they didn't bring it out.
        • 5 Years Ago

        umm no.

        The L was at end of life, nobody wanted to compete with it when it came out. Its demise had nothing to do with the SRT
        • 5 Years Ago
        didn't the Ram SRT V10 sent the SVT boys back to the drawing board since they could not top that one....That said I think it's all relative...everyone could make a "Raptor" question is would it sell in large numbers...
        • 5 Years Ago
        I understand Dodge's need to compete butt this a niche market that is very low volume and unprofitable when you consider all the engineering R& D costs, it'll take years for Dodge to make any money (if?)... at a time when they continue to piss away our hard-earned tax dollars... just another reason to avoid Crisisler... more stupid moves!
      • 5 Years Ago
      @ Level
      Maybe they topped the Lighting in Hp, but Ford must have done something right since you will see 20 lightnings to every one Ram srt if that. I have maybe seen 2 Ram SRT ever here in Cali. Way overpriced just to have a Viper motor
        • 5 Years Ago
        ....Look at production numbers, that will explain the lack of SRT-10 sightings. Yes, the price was higher on the Ram's, but you got the performance to smoke the Lightning's.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Not really that overpriced, 40k is still incredibly cheap for a monster like the SRT-10 Ram!

        On the used car market they're both affordable and at comparable prices.
      • 5 Years Ago

      Good thing it has a pickup bed to carry all of the interior parts that will inevitably fall off.
      • 5 Years Ago
      "Being based on the Ram 1500 means that Chrysler's Raptor-fighter will feature independent suspension at all four corners."

      Why? Unless I'm wrong the 1500 still has a solid axle - coils springs don't make it independent.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The 1500's have IFS, but a solid rear axle. I'm not familiar with the new RAM's (I own an '08 1500) but I'm pretty sure they still have solid rear axles. The 2500's and up still have solid front axles if I'm not mistaken.

        I don't think anyone would be too interested in a full-size truck with IFS all-around unless it was something bulletproof like the HMMV's suspension.
      • 5 Years Ago
      dhammond, read my comment again.

      I said the F150 on which the Raptor model is based is "warmed over". The "new" F150 is actually a refresh of the truck that debuted in the earlier part of this decade, not an entirely new design.

      I did not say anything about the changes made to it for the Raptor but that doesn't change the fact that the F150 itself is an older vehicle design. Especially compared to the Ram which is an actual redesign.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is a one time build. All you people talking smack about it beating the Raptor is not going to happen. Wishful Thinking!!!!

      This is not even going to make into production. The Raptors says "Meh".
        • 5 Years Ago
        i agree ....the Raptor is just bad ass ..ive seen about three of them around here in Vegas ...but the Ram if fully capable if done right ..and even if it does make it to production in say a year ....the Raptor will be ready for a freshen up and one up it
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