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During last summer's bankruptcy proceedings, New Chrysler chose not to contract Cummins to produce a light-duty diesel engine for the its Ram pickup trucks. At a rumored 5.0 liters of displacement, this diesel engine would have been somewhat less powerful but also less expensive and more fuel efficient than the larger 6.7-liter inline six-cylinder diesel, also supplied by Cummins, in heavy duty Rams.

Now our friends from PickupTrucks.com report that Dodge may be back in the light-duty diesel game. Joe Veltri, Chrysler vice president of product planning, reportedly said at the NTEA Work Truck Show, "We're in discussions with Cummins. There's no contract [with Cummins] but [a light-duty diesel] is in our plan."

As an aside, it seems as if the so-called light-duty engine could also find its way into the Heavy Duty 2500 and 3500 Ram trucks in addition to the expected 1500. "Does every guy need a 6.7-liter diesel? It could certainly package in a heavy duty," Veltri said.

[Source: PickupTrucks.com]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      a chevy avalanche with a 3.5-4.5 liter turbodiesel that's b20 or better yet b100 compatible would be a happy vehicle for me.

      the ecoboost F-150 may be the best option actually coming to market in the next couple years, but I'd prefer a diesel if possible. I'd pay the price premium.
      • 5 Years Ago
      What about a diesel Charger? That would be cool.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Yes, finally! I have been waiting for one of the three to bring this back into development. I don't need and don't want to pay for 750lbs of torque and 25k lbs of towing, but I do pull a boat in the summer, and it would be nice to have a mid grade diesel. First one to market get my money.
      • 5 Years Ago
      They gotta do this. This would give Ram a huge edge!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Yes!!!

      My money will go to the first manufacture that produces a modern 1/2 ton diesel.
        • 5 Years Ago
        quote from Greg Aryous: - "too expensive and the market is NOT willing to pay for it" -

        You've got me fooled then because it sure seems to me like there are an awful lot of diesel heavy duty trucks on the road. Sure seems to me as though the demand is certainly there, even as an $7k option in some cases.

        If I rarely ever saw a diesel HD pickup, I might possibly believe you. But, on the contrary, they seem to be just about everywhere, at least where I live.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Are you willing to pay approx. $5,000 premium for a diesel?

        This has been the price problem with getting a small diesel in lite duty trucks... too expensive and the market is NOT willing to pay for it.. are you?

        On the other hand, Ford WILL release the EcoBoost 3.5V6 in the F150 this fall and it will produce diesel-like 400+ ft-lbs torque at a low 1500 RPM and have approx. 350 HP and get 25+ MPG for a premium less than $1000... would you buy that instead?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Link for the F-150 getting the EB35? I was under the impression it would receive the 3.7L V6, 5.0L V8, and the 6.2L V8 (Raptor exclusive).
        • 5 Years Ago
        Montoym - Dumb Ass - we're talking "light duty" trucks F150, NOT the SD STUPID!!!!

        As far as price goes, a general rule of thumb for diesel is $1000 per liter, hence why the Ford PS 6.7L diesel like GM's 6.6L diesel are $6500 - $6700 options, plus its a TRUCK engine, not a whimpy car motor...!
        • 5 Years Ago
        The Taurus SHO gets 17/25 is with the economy axle ratio, 2.77
        What do you thing the 3.16 gets 16/24 (and that is still premium)
        • 5 Years Ago
        BigDumbface - I would never buy a diesel vehicle based on gambling on future value being 1.5 - 2x a gas version... Would you spend the $5000 premium for diesel?

        Jimbo - The Taurus SHO is AWD and geared for performance hence the 25 MPG highway while the F150 EB hasnt been released, I know Fords target is 25MPG and they will hit it with 2WD, aerodynamic improvements and gearing for highway MPG...
        • 5 Years Ago
        Greg,

        You make it back when you sell it/ trade it in. 5-10 year old diesels sell at 1.5x - 2x the price of gas trucks.

        Total cost-of-ownership of the diesel is still lower.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I'd buy a rabbit diesel truck if it was still possible. But a diesel ranger or tacoma droool :)
        • 5 Years Ago
        It won't be a $5K option. Even the insane add-on that they charge for diesels now is way higher than it needs to be IMO. I'd say it will really be closer to $2,000-$2500 and I'd gladly pay that. Not that I think I'd be saving money in the long run, but it's the engine that I'd prefer, it's an upgrade to me

        Look at other vehicles with diesel options. To get a TDI in a Golf or Jetta, you are paying about $2,000 more than a comparably-equipped model with a gas engine.

        In the M-B ML-Class vehicles, the diesel option is about $1500. The base MSRP's for the ML350 and ML350 BlueTEC are about $4k apart, but the ML350 has 4Matic as a $2500 option while it's standard on the BlueTEC.

        For the BMW 335d, there's a difference in cost of about $2,275 compared to the 335i as calculated by AB here, http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/10/review-2009-bmw-335d-proves-efficient-dynamics-is-more-entert/

        For the VW Touareg, the difference in cost is $3500 and that's the highest difference I can find short of the Heavy Duty truck realm.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Greg: The 3.5 L EcoBoost doesn't come close to hitting the EPA rating of 25 mpg hwy in the SHO. So why would it do any better when put into a heavier truck platform? Diesels on the other hand are well known for exceeding their highway mpg rating, even in heavy trucks.
        • 5 Years Ago
        If you base your calculations on fuel economy gains, the price of fuel, and the cost to buy up front, diesels and hybrids take many years to pay for themselves.

        However, when you factor in resale value, diesels and hybrids become a smart purchasing choice. History shows that diesel and hybrid owners get the vast majority of the extra up-front cost back when they sell their cars/trucks. That is not an opinion, that is a fact.

        IMO, the potential market for this engine is huge. There are a lot of people who tow boats on the weekends and drive their trucks to work M-F. This crowd would strongly benefit from a diesel powered half ton.

        Also, this engine + Power Wagon = Win
      • 5 Years Ago
      My understanding is that the 5.0 was virtually ready to go before Chrysler ran into trouble and Diesel pump prices went through the roof. Cost will be the big issue. If a case can be made, this engine may also have possible apps for the Iveco based van on the horizon.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I think 5L is still to big....that's only what 1.5L difference with the bigger one?

        A 4L diesel would be perfect.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I can already picture it being pulled from a wrecked one and put into a Wrangler like it should have been this whole time.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wow, someone needs a lesson in waxing.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Can we please have a diesel in our Wranglers like they get in the UK and Europe!?!?
      • 5 Years Ago
      We should all go to dodge.com and click on the "contact us" link and beg them to build the Rams with this option. Who knows, if they see we are really interested, instead of just talking about it, they will build it and Ram will FINALLY oust Ford from being the best selling truck! Now how cool would THAT be???? It would give all Ram owners real bragging rights too. I'm going to write them now!
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