• Feb 13th 2010 at 3:03PM
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A little confusion travels quickly. As long ago as last year and as recently as last week's Chicago Auto Show, the bed-happy gents at PickupTrucks.com were told that a new Honda Ridgeline would be arriving sometime in 2011. Now the guys have been told by Honda, "That's not the case." The proper information: "there will be no significant change to the Ridgeline through the 2011 model year."

That leaves the Honda pickup to soldier on through a 50-percent decline in sales and EPA numbers on the wrong side of frugality for at least another two years. And with a five-year-old design. Perhaps Honda wants to see how the truck market (and the auto market in general) does in the near term before it decides what the next Ridgeline should be. Or perhaps the company wants to get its core models in order, like those hybrids, before it makes another play at a small segment. We only have guesses – but there are certainly people out there who'd rather have a new Ridgeline.

[Source: PickupTrucks.com]

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      • 5 Years Ago
      ....And thousands of interior decorators weep.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Maybe they're deciding whether the next Ridgeline will even exist at all.
        • 5 Years Ago
        An F-150 doesn't get better mileage. The Ridgeline gets better mileage than the Ram, Tundra, F150, and Silverado.

        The thing is, it's not significantly better mileage. My buddy's ridgeline gets 19-21 mpg the tundra it replaced got 15-17 mpg on the same route, and the F150 before it got 17-19 mpg (but that had the 6 cylinder engine and a manual transmission).
        • 5 Years Ago
        Wow John, a lot of incorrect information there.

        For instance, the Avalanche is the direct competitor to the Ridgeline. The Ridgeline has a HIGHER payload than the Avalanche, and the Avalanche's OPTIONAL(lol AWD is optional) brings the city mpg rating down to 11.

        Try again with your propaganda.
      • 5 Years Ago
      So let me get this stratight, Pickuptrucks.com got mad at Leftlanenews.com for using this original information without attributing them, but in the end it was all wrong?? Maybe journaistic integrity also requires reporting the news properly Pickuptrucks.com!
      • 5 Years Ago
      If Honda wants a smash hit, they should develop a compact pick-up. I don't know what Ford's gonna do, but I imagine it'll be a bloated Tacoma/Dakota-esque mess. Make a true compact with short hang-overs, link rear suspension, and a small turbo diesel powerplant option (that's reasonably priced). Make it both practical, efficient, and appealing to redneck mud-bogger-types. Keep it somewhat rough, almost un-honda-like.

      If nobody else does, Mahindra surely will.

      Not all of us want our vehicles to get bigger and heavier with every redesign.
        • 5 Years Ago
        In many other markets (Latin America, Southeast Asia, Africa, Australia) there is a stronger demand for small pickup. I was in Panama and Costa Rica and saw a sea of small pickups: Toyota Hilux, Nissan Frontier, Mitsubishi Raider/L200, Ford Ranger, Mazda B2000, etc.. The same story repeated itself in the Phillipines and Thailand. Why? Because they're practical and just the right size for the roads here. And Honda is missing out on these markets.
        • 5 Years Ago
        mk15 have a interesting point. Also Ford sold the Courier (not related to the Courier who was sold in the 1970s in Canada and the United States) in Mexico, Brazil and Argentina based on the Fiesta platform https://www.ford.com.br/showroom.asp?veiculo=10 Chevrolet sold the Tornado in Brasil http://www.chevrolet.com.mx/content_data/LAAM/MX/es/GMMGM/showroom/chevrolet/modelos/tornado/diseno.html who's a "Ute" or "mini-El Camino". VW once offered a pick-up variant of the Rabbit/Golk Mk1 in the early 1980s in North America. And Fiat have the Strada pick-up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Strada in South America who could be the base for a small Dodge pick-up.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I've been driving Honda's for years. I owned a 91 Accord LX, 2000 Accord EX-L V6 Coupe, and currently a 2006 Accord EX. Honda is all I have ever owned or known. With that said, I find the current direction of Honda in the US to be hideous! The latest generation Accord is a comfortable riding vehicle but is falling into the cheap interiors that plauged GM a few years ago coupled with awkward interior/exterior styling. From talks with a Honda engineer I recently worked with it seems as though Honda America is taking over all styling/engineering/design of vehicles in the US and is letting the bean-counters run the show. Look at the Cross-tour!

      What else is in the current lineup...

      Odyssey? A GREAT vehicle. Smooth riding, high quality interior, spacious. If I had a family I would love to drive this vehicle. In fact, my wife makes fun of me because I secretly desire a brand new Crystal Black Pearl Odyssey EXL V6. My sisters fully loaded Toyota minivan can't even compare. Dodges are nice but still a little rough on the edges.

      Civic: A great car but in need of a refresher. When we looked for a used car last year these were selling higher than accords of the same vintage--2006. If I was looking for a vehicle of this size I would consider the Civic or the Mazda 3.

      Element: I love this car but it's not for me. When it first came out my opinion would be WTF. My best friend had one of these for a while and it was one of the most spacious and versatile vehicles in its class--if there is a class for this vehicle! Not my style, not luxurious, but very versatile. If they could figure out a way to make the rear seats more "stowable" this could be a hit for those with an open mind.

      Fit: Nice small and economical car. For the size (and awkward styling) give me a civic. I'll take the slight decrease in GPM's for a little more room and to not look like a Chode.

      Pilot: Decent SUV. I love the exterior of this vehicle contrary to what most people will say. It reminds me of a modern day Cherokee (without poor reliability)---call me crazy. The interior is crap. When I was looking at a SUV for my wife last year my biggest gripe of the previous generation Pilot was the interior. I thought the latest iteration would be a step up but was disappointed. Way to put a cheap interior in a 30k+ vehicle. Beancounters at their finest.

      CRV: Nice car for the class. Goofy front end but nice front cabin if you get the EX model with center console. Riding in the back seat of these makes me think of a Hyundai from years past. Seems like spray painted trim that will wear away after a few years (or sooner with kids) of ownership. Viable alternatives are the CX7, Equinox, RAV4 (in need of a refresher) and the Escape. I would like to root for Nissan (wife ended up with a Pathfinder) but the Rouge is a terrible alternative---crappy interior with hideous cloth seats made from what I call a burlap sack. My cousin loves his Mazda CX7 and I'll hesitantly agree its at the top of its class.

      Insight: Great idea with mediocre execution. I neither love nor hate this vehicle. It seems like a decent alternative to the Prius but doesn't seem to excel at anything in particular. I would definitely take a serious look at it if I were in the market but it doesn't get my heart pumping.

      Ridgeline: Over the past year I've been looking for a used MY 06-07 truck. A friend of mine has the Ridgeline. I will say it rides nice for a so called "truck" but it has its downfalls. For a Honda it has a seemingly cheap interior. The MPG's are about the same as a fullsize truck with a V8 and the pricing isn't helpful. I looked at new and I could get Crewcabs of the big 3, with a V8 for the same price as a comparable new Ridgeline with a V6. Needless to say I ended up with a used 07 F150 supercrew. The interior isn't necessarily better (or worse) than the Honda but it is a durable truck with a V8 and seemingly more room. It's cheaper and more capable than the Ridgeline. I wish it had sportier more supportive seats like the Ridgeline and stock bed that won't rust but that's the only downfalls in my mind. For a lifetime Honda owner I'm happy with my purchase. The tough part will be selling my 06 accord that's sitting in the garage...I LOVE that car.

      Bottom line is that Honda needs to go back to their ways of years past. I'm not happy with the current styling, cheap interiors, or choices they are offering. Their lack of innovation is disappointing. As a lifetime owner it was a tough choice to make my first non-Honda purchase but it is what it is. I will still (admittedly biased) tend towards their products before others but they are quickly loosing ground.

      • 5 Years Ago
      I have a Ridgeline and a BMW. On long trips. I'll take the Ridgeline for the comfort and visibility over the Bimmer. It's the most comfortable truck I've ever owned, and has been totally reliable. I've owned Fords and Chevy's and nothing comes close to the Ridge. Yes, there are some (minor) gripes, but all in all, Honda has a great vehicle.
      • 5 Years Ago
      It's not mission critical to the survival of the company so they're investing in the vehicles that are. Simple as that.
      • 5 Years Ago
      That is not a truck. I don't care what they say. I would allow them to call it an extended capability SUV, but not a truck. Maybe in Japan that is considered a truck but here that is a joke meant to appease Honda owners.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I guarantee it's towed more trailers and hauled more loads then all the ridgelines combined. Try hooking up a plow to one of those and see how long the front end lasts. It may be small but at least it's up to the task.
        This is what happens when you use a "truck" with rear coil overs to tow.

        Honda Junk!
        • 5 Years Ago
        LOL, you forum name is Sonoma.

        LOL, not that isn't a truck.
      • 5 Years Ago
      My comment to all automakers who attempt(ed) to bring an SUT to market is that the volume is always going to be low and your target very limited unless you lower the price point to be more competitive [with current compact and mid-size trucks] and increase the mileage figures. Honda created the Ridgeline to be a daily driver during the week and also function as the weekend light duty pickup that could handle family chores, but the entry price was always too high the gas mileage very UN-Honda-like.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Honda created the Ridgeline to be a daily driver during the week and also function as the weekend light duty pickup that could handle family chores, but the entry price was always too high the gas mileage very UN-Honda-like. "

        This is the same thing that killed the Dakota. For a few bucks more, and 1 mpg less, you could get a Ram 1500. So, that's what most people did.
        • 5 Years Ago
        It's unfortunate that someone like Norma, who is so quick in her criticism of others, fails to understand the real facts germane to this particular issue. Let us dispense with the mere fact that very few 4X4 Crew Cab pickup intenders would even consider a Ridgeline, but for those who would let's look at the real facts. First of all, the M.S.R.P. for a base Ridgeline is $29,160, a differential of $3,710 from the $25,450 Norma indicated. She was correct in the Chevy Silverado LS Crew Cab price ($33,510) and for the record, a new F-150 XL Crew Cab comes in at $33,015. Granted, there is a $4,000 differential in the base prices of the domestics vs. the Ridgeline, but I doubt the number of pickup owners who bought their Chevy or Ford truck at M.S.R.P. could even fill up a Suzuki Swift, even on a good day. Real pickup buyers know the difference between a truck chassis (body on ladder frame construction), vs. a unibody pickup (which most would define as an oxymoron) and many would cite that as the defining reason for their preference of a Chevy or a Ford (or a Dodge . . . uh Ram, for that matter) over the Ridgeline. But the real problem here is the purchase price. Even before the current financial crisis, Ford and Chevy trucks came with big incentives, bringing their purchase price much closer to the Ridgeline. Finally, in calendar year 2009, Ford sold 413,625 F-150 trucks, Chevy sold 316,554 Silverados and Honda sold 16,464. Guess which truck saw sales drop the most from CY 2008? You guessed it, Honda. Ridgeline sales were down 51.4%, compared to a drop of 17.6% for the F-150 and 31.9% for the Silverado. Norma, next time you go on a rant, check your facts more thoroughly.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Since gas got expensive Honda has painted themselves as the green car company.

        Hidden behind all that talk about Fits and Civics, they also sold 2.4 million Pilots and Odysseys over the past decade.

        Nothing un-Honda like about a large vehicle with large vehicle mileage.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The last time I checked, a Chevy LS CrewCab 4WD starts from 33,510; a LT CrewCab 4WD starts from 34,615. And I doubt Ford F-150 comparably equipped will cost much less.
        Comparing with the above, a Honda Ridgeline starts from $25,450 and comes with 4WD standard, it seems it's "value-priced". Wouldn't you agree it should be Chevy and Ford who should cut their prices?
        I always wish the commentators really know a thing or two.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Still the nicest driving truck I've ever experienced, with great practicality to boot.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I agree. My '06 Ridgeline is very comfortable. It rides nicely, the seats are supportive, and it actually makes quite a nice snarl when you put your foot down. Plus, it has a copious amount of storage space in all the cubbyholes stashed around the cabin.

        It's always the first ride picked when my friends and I go to the mountains.

        I do agree that the gas mileage is very "un-Honda", though.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I agree on Ridgeline being the nicest driving truck. I own a 2006 model and driven a lot of different trucks before I got the Ridge. Yeah it might be based on an SUV, but I don't mind, it's actually a good thing. I drive mostly city/highway with occasional off-road stint when going fishing/camping, and highway handling can't be beat by any other truck out there. For me it's perfect. And Honda's quality can't be beat.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I have an 08 Ridgeline and love it. Honda borrowed my truck for a couple of weeks to do emissions testing, and I got a new Ram to drive. It rode well, but not as nicely as the Ridgeline. Can't beat 4 wheel independent suspension. I wish it would get a couple more miles per gallon, but it's not like the minivans do much better with the same engine. Honda was considering a diesel but dropped that. I would have grabbed a diesel Ridgeline in a heartbeat. It's all the truck I need, and is easier to park and fit in my garage. I like the F150 and Ram, but more than I need. I also like the inbed trunk and spare tire kept in there out of the weather. I have seen many regular trucks on the shoulder with a guy trying to get the tire down from under the bed. I think one more year of the current model is no big deal. They just refreshed it anyway.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Aaahh Yes, the Accordamino, that and it's bastard cousin, the 4WD Accord Station wagon(Pilot) just need to disappear. It was a good try Honda, but in the end, a Fail...
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