• Jan 27, 2010
TheDetroitBureau.com is reporting that Toyota is currently in discussions with other world governments and safety agencies about expanding its latest recall involving defective accelerator pedal mechanisms that may cause unintended acceleration. Eight models are included in the current U.S. recall, which affects some 2.3 million Toyota branded vehicles. Without a fix for the issue, Toyota is required by law to stop production and sales of the vehicles, which it did yesterday – some five days after the recall was announced. Toyota also announced another recall earlier this month affecting 4.2 million vehicles with floor mats that could trap accelerator pedals, also causing unintended acceleration, and while the two issues are said to be unrelated, around 1.7 million vehicles are affected by both recalls.

At the heart of this latest recall are accelerator pedal mechanisms produced by Indiana-based CTS Corp. at its plant in Mississauga, Ontario. What's not immediately known is whether the pedal mechanisms produced by CTS Corp. have been used in any models sold outside North America, or whether the problem with these parts is in their manufacturing or an issue with their design, choice of materials, etc. If it's the latter, the defective pedal mechanisms could be produced in other Toyota supplier plants around the world and be used in millions more vehicles than the ones covered by this latest recall in the U.S.

Toyota has not officially commented whether or not its considering expanding the recall to other markets, or other brands like Lexus and Scion. Stay tuned as more news about Toyota and its recall woes continues to surface.



[Source: The Detroit Bureau, The Canadian Press | Image: HO/AFP/Getty]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      Top Ten Toyota Headlines

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      1. Toyota reassures owners that the problem doesn't happen when the car is off.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Best post of the day.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Acronym :
      TOYOTA

      Definition:
      Tradition Of Yanking Off Trusting Americans TOYOTA

      FORD (Found On Road Dead) move over, there's a new f.up in town.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Toyota down 8.71% today so far.

      http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:TM
      • 4 Years Ago
      Another day, another mile down the downward spiral Toyota goes. Fantastic news! Rock bottom is still another few miles down, you know, where they recall their entire fleet of vehicles across all of their brands and begin going to court and losing their asses to huge wrongful death, negligence and class action lawsuit settlements. This is turning into some quality entertainment!
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Wally

        "Quality entertainment"

        On an issue relating to design "quality"

        veryfunny.
      • 4 Years Ago
      While the home office in Japan will take the financial hit, I feel for the local plant workers, and ultimately, the thousands more jobs that will be lost over this epic issue.

      In hindsight, what was the trouble with cable actuated throttles anyway. MB tried electro-hydraulic brakes in the late 90s E-class and got burned. Now its Toyota with drive by wire throttles. Perhaps it is just that the electronics industry is not held to standards of reliability that are high enough (Microsoft?). Are these cars having an ECU computer crash?

      From what I can see, 6 of the 8 models being recalled are produced in North America. Very sad!
        • 4 Years Ago
        All the models being recalled are produced in NA. The models built in Japan are exempt from the recall because they all use Denso accelerator mods.

        Most are making too much of this. Its a voluntary recall and they aren't even going to replace the part. The recall will take less than a half hour to fix and the parts will be in the dealerships by early next week.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Maxfli,
        Yes.
        It started out repositioning the floormats.
        Then it changed to replacing the pedals because they were too long (and this is where the reflashes happen)
        Now, the reason is given that the pedals fail internally and need to be replaced.

        The root cause of this issue is the plain fact that Toyota didn't have the most basic torque security logic that cuts engine output if the throttle is commanded open while the brakes are depressed.
        Also, if there ends up being a pedal wear issue, it will be because the specifications given by Toyota will have not been rigorous enough for CTS produce a quality pedal.

        But it still all goes back to the simple fact that EIGHT people died needlessly because of the BASIC torque security features NOT present in the Toyota vehicles they were driving.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Obviously not only the global headquarters in Japan, a huge chunk of US GDP may be lost due to Toyota's recall, and, in the current economic times, this is gonna hurt the US economy BIG time.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Electronic throttles open up many wonderful possibilities in performance, fuel economy and improvement in driveability. The problem is that you need to include redundant security algorithms inside the ECU to check, double-check, triple-check (and check again) that the torque the engine is creating (which is a function of the throttle opening) matches the torque the driver is requesting (by how far the accelerator pedal is depressed).

        One of the most basic, effective methods of torque security is to monitor throttle position and the brake pedal travel switch; if both are registering that the throttle is open, and the brakes are applied, the ECU can go to a default "reduced power" mode where the brakes can easily overcome the engine's output in order to safely stop the car.

        Toyota does not use this simple safety feature - until now! The "computer reflash" that takes place when your car goes in for the accelerator pedal recall with put an updated software into the car to include such a function.

        So, IMHO, Toyota blames the problem on the supplier's pedal (misdirection) while they reflash the ecu (fixing the real problem). Toyota continues to look "good" while the supplier (CTS) takes the fall for Toyota's mistake.
      • 4 Years Ago
      GM Sets Up Campaign to Help Toyota Buyers to Switch
      January 27, 2010, 02:31 PM EST

      http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-01-27/gm-sets-up-campaign-to-help-toyota-buyers-to-switch-update1-.html

      Way to go GM! Good call Susan Docherty!
        • 4 Years Ago
        Susan is the MAN! Well...figurtively anyway.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Sounds a bit hokey to me. I don't want to suddenly up to my armpits in used Toyotas that nobody wants. If they can't sell them new, I can't sell them used. So whats a 2010 Camry worth to me right now on trade? Pennies on the dollar. At least I know I can recycle it.
        • 4 Years Ago
        GM shouldn't be tempting fate here. They have enough problems. What dealership wants trade ins it won't be able to move?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Toyota gave CTS many awards for quality http://www.ctscorp.com/publications/publicwhatsnew.htm (no I am not a CTS employee)
        • 4 Years Ago
        I almost had the same problem, I think AB servers are getting overwhelm with internet traffic over reading the Toyota issues lol
        • 4 Years Ago
        CTS Automotive Products has been awarded a $22 million production program for its Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) Accelerator Pedal Modules from a major Japanese vehicle manufacturer. This award is for the Asian volumes of a popular global small-car platform. CTS recently won the North American business for this same platform of this popular model and is working towards penetrating additional wins for this platform in Europe.



        The pedal modules will be manufactured in Zhongshan, China with the first deliveries starting in 2011.


        According to this the parts have not been produced yet. Looks like TOYOTA has the wrong 'scape goat.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Good riddance Toyota!

      Sorry to have to say this, but your products were a bunch of rubbish anyway.

      But ultimately it was your arrogance that brought you down.

      Why didn't you fix this when you had the chance?

      And stop treating the world like idiots.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Wow, Brian sure is quiet. Where is he?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Will today's FUBAR Toyota reputation stop the Toyota dealer network from buying up used Toyotas and artificially inflating resell values? hummm.

      • 4 Years Ago
      Doesn't the iPad have an ap that will make this whole thing go away?
      • 4 Years Ago
      Big clue.

      "Report: Toyota to take pedal recall global

      At the heart of this latest recall are accelerator pedal mechanisms produced by Indiana-based CTS Corp. at its plant in Mississauga, Ontario. What's not immediately known is whether the pedal mechanisms produced by CTS Corp. have been used in any models sold outside North America, or whether the problem with these parts is in their manufacturing or an issue with their design, choice of materials, etc. If it's the latter, the defective pedal mechanisms could be produced in other Toyota supplier plants around the world and be used in millions more vehicles than the ones covered by this latest recall in the U.S."

      From this headline (Toyota to take pedal recall global) it appears that Toyota is admitting a flaw in THEIR design. It is therefore an engineering fault by Toyota engineering alone. CTS, Denso and others only manufactured what Toyota asked them to produce. They are probably off the hook now. But Mr Watanabe is probably talking to his lawyers.

      This is not good at all.
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