• Jan 27, 2010
Well this is just too bad. As you may recall, Pickuptrucks.com was chatting with Tom Stephens, GM's vice chairman of global product operations, about GM's new heavy duty pickup trucks. Suddenly Stephens said something quite interesting:
"You know what I want to do to prove it? I want to take our truck and Ford's [new Super Duty] and chain them together back-to-back. Then I want to have them pull against each other. I know our truck will beat theirs."
How cool would that have been? Supremely cool. However, Ford chooses to think different. Via twitter, Ford was asked by a Pickuptrucks.com reader if they'd accept the challenge. Ford said, "We typically don't respond to challenges. We let the vehicles speak for themselves." Ford ended their statement with this link illustrating that the Ford F Series has been America's best selling vehicle for 33 years straight. As we used to say in 4th grade, "Oooh! Burned!"

Still, we would have really loved to watch a tug of war. Who would have won? Probably a Dodge. On a semi-related note, Pickuptrucks.com's Mike Levine was bragging via Facebook about the Ford SVT Raptor he's driving this week. We asked him if he would like to chain it to the 470-hp Jaguar XF Supercharged we're driving this week and have ourselves a little tug of war. Levine's response, "Only if we do it in mid-air." Touché.

[Source: Pickuptrucks.com]


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      • 4 Years Ago
      Funny.... I sold GM for years and a few things to keep in mind 1st) Ford is not wrong with the statement about F-150 being the number one selling 1/2 ton .....now keep in mind that that is total sales vs Cherolet or GMC, however when you combine total GM Truck Sales.... FORD Look out, and as for Toyota and Dodge.... well they are there, but still have a long long way to go.
      Now for the tug o war.... I was selling GM back when they first came out with the new Duramax back in 2001.....and I saw footage of two Trucks, GM and Ford, back to back... chained together, and I can honestly say I can see why... Ford would decline. If your looking for a HD Truck... one thing GM has going for it that no one else does... "can you say Allison???? "
        • 4 Years Ago
        Last time I read the Chevrolet 1500 Silverado outsold the F150. It was the HD trucks that Ford dominate.
      • 4 Years Ago
      It all boils down to driver skill. Since the traction of all modern trucks is vastly less than their engine's capability, whoever manages to use their brakes best during the initial launch wins. Once one vehicle starts to spin, its all over.

      It was a stupid challenge.

      Something like a drag race, uphill, towing a heavy trailer? That'd be more of a true test of power. Of course, you can figure that out on the dyno too...
        • 4 Years Ago
        Although it'd be a fun video to watch a skillfully driven Mustang drag a tire-spinning 3500 backwards across a parking lot, it'd prove about as much as the proposed version :)
      • 4 Years Ago
      I don't understand why Ford needs to agree. Can't GM buy a new ford truck and do the test themselves, better yet donate these 2 trucks to Top Gear for the test, sounds like something they would love.
      • 4 Years Ago
      test comment
      • 4 Years Ago
      The decision that started this competition is something you expect from a company that came out with the volt song and dance. The response given is what you expect from a company that is currently on a roll.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Ford's claim of top truck sales for most of those years is based on a technicality: Chevy and GMC, being separate brands, force GM to report and count their truck sales separately.
      • 4 Years Ago
      C'mon Ford...don't be a killjoy!
        • 4 Years Ago
        If Ford doesn't put up I wouldn't be surprised if some websites along with Chevy got together to sponsor this event....
      • 4 Years Ago
      Honestly, tug of war with trucks is a bit childish and stupid, imo.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Childish? Sure. Fun? You betcha.

        I've got older, but I still haven't grown up.
        • 4 Years Ago
        You need to turn in your S/N, as any self respecting country kid knows that the ONLY way to settle a Chevy vs. Ford vs. Dodge argument is with a good old fashioned tug-of-war!

        P.S. Upstate NY on weekends doesn't count as 'the country' :P

        Time for declaration of allegiance:

        Ford should put up or shut up! "We let the vehicles do the talking," B.S., that's exactly what the tug-of-war would do.
        • 4 Years Ago
        because traction is important. just because the truck has more power or torque, doesn't mean it will necessarily when. It needs the necessary friction in the tires to achieve its goal. But even if GM lost, they would bend it into themselves being the champions.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Whatever!
        • 4 Years Ago
        There are just too many variables involved. I'll just stick with a test drive and reviews to help me come up with what I like best.
        • 4 Years Ago
        *redneckish
        • 4 Years Ago
        OK, same tires on the same surface then. There you go, a fair fight.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Put your GM pickup next to a Transit. With cardboard boxes in the back. In the rain.

      See who wins then.
      • 4 Years Ago
      You don't answer stupidity with stupidity.

      If they would have accepted the challenge, I would have respected them less.

      I have seen many a "truck pull." Power has never been the deciding factor.......... EVER. Something as simple as the height of the hitch point, makes a huge difference.

      As for the Allison comment............... you were correct, in 2001, as all Ford had was the 4R100. However, since 2005 they have had the Torqshift trans, which is easily comparible to the Allison.............. and better yet, it was actually designed by Ford.
      mka
      • 4 Years Ago
      GM can't stand it that they've been beaten in the sales race for all these d e c a d e s. Face it, Ford is the leader in trucks. Who brought us a reliable diesel engine meant for REAL work? Who recognized the need to have two different platforms to more fully serve the needs of buyers? All that coupled with Fords new market share gains clearly show which company is on the move, and it isn't "Generous Motors" (But I hear that they ARE taking some of that stimulus money and using it to work on the NEXT generation of pick up, a market segment that has clearly shrunk drastically since 2008, apparently they didn't get the memo...) Ford has better things to do than go play with the whiny kid down the street with the bow tie in his sand box.
      • 4 Years Ago
      yet they did that ecoboost challenge with the lincoln
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