• Jan 22nd 2010 at 10:29AM
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Mahindra has had its fair share of issues and delays in bringing its TR20 and TR40 diesel-powered compact pickup trucks to market here in the United States, but it seems that experience hasn't turned the Indian automaker off from a planned launch of its Scorpio SUV in America by the end of this year.

Considering the short timetable, we would imagine the U.S.-bound Scorpio wouldn't differ too greatly from the model that's available in other parts of the world, but Inside Line reports (without offering sources) that a new unibody version is in the works that could replace the body-on-frame design used at present.

We'd have to assume that the U.S. version of the Scorpio would share the TR's 2.2-liter four cylinder diesel engine – which in pickup duty is expected to return 30 miles per gallon and tow up to 1.3 tons – and that it would offer similar fuel efficient benefits wrapped in a SUV wrapper.

[Source: Inside Line]

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      • 5 Years Ago
      They keep shoving back the deadline for these vehicles.

      First, we were supposed to see them in 2008. Then, it was fall of '08. Then, it was the first of the year '09. Then this past summer. Then the first of the year '10. Now, it's the end of '10.

      I realize that it's hard and expensive to launch a new vehicle here. But I've seen this pattern before. ZMW (Zastava) and Cross Lander, both companies that fielded vehicles with antequated designs, were supposed to be coming to a showroom near you. Never materialized.

      While I don't doubt that we may eventually get M&Ms here, the vehicle they'd be selling is antequated, as well. And if they're talking about an all-new vehicle with unit construction...I don't know. It makes me think their next excuse for pushing back the deadline into 2011 is that they're readying it for production instead of the vehicles they said they were bringing.

      All that to say, I'm not holding my breath. And I'll believe it when I see it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Zastava was here once before. It was called Yugo.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Check your numbers......make it 1.3 tons load capacity (not tow capacity). With approximately 2700 ibs load capacity and 30 MPG, this truck could be a great choice for use with a truck camper.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Another piece of good news is that the company has joined the International Automotive Trade Association.
      I’m guessing this is good news for all of us waiting to try one of their three vehicles. Their clean diesel engines sounds very interesting, especially with those fuel economy numbers. That’s definitely one of my main metrics for judging vehicles these days.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I love this SUV! It's biggest downfall is its wimpy mallcrawling independent front suspension. SUVs should not be unibody, and SUVs should not have independent suspension. If I wanted independent suspension, I would buy a car.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This piece of sh*t looks like it were introduced in the mid-90's. Not in 2010 / 2011. I really don't like it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I would say late 80's,designed by a blind mildly retarded team of designers who didn't like or talk to each other.
      • 5 Years Ago
      If Mahindra can make a reasonably affordable and capable diesel SUV in the U.S., why can't other manufacturers? I would buy a diesel Jeep and a new Diesel Suburban in a heartbeat. This Mahindra SUV interests me, but it would be a few years before I would consider buying one.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I have absolutely NO particular interest in owning an SUV of any kind, but if Chrysler sold a diesel soft top Wrangler tuned for fuel economy, I'd be in line to buy one. (It's not like a Wrangler has a lot of payload space, so why not tune it for fuel economy?)

        I almost bought a diesel Jeep Liberty, but I REALLY want a convertible of some sort as my next vehicle.
      • 5 Years Ago
      And what about a dealer network? I could see a diesel SUV like that working here though. Speaking of dealers though- a Chrysler dealer wants more money out of a customer. Should she have to pay?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Well, GM dumped a whole lot of *excellent* dealerships when they killed Saturn. Personal attention and great customer care (which was why many people actually loved their Saturns) would work well for Mahindra.

      • 5 Years Ago
      As an Indian, I think I can offer some insights to Americans on Mahindra.

      * Tough & Reliable? Engine/Tranny reliability?
      Yes, Yes & Yes. The engine, tranny, suspension etc survive the tough roads that it has to ply in India. The Mahindra chassis, mHawk engine & tranny have proven themselves here. Believe it or not, a Mahindra setup is favored over a Toyota as far as reliability goes in India.

      * Style? Fit & Finish?
      Nope. Not Mahindra's forte. Unless something changes drastically between now & till it's introduction in US, fit & finish will be subpar. Inconsistency in plastics, ill fitting carpets abound in a Mahindra product (Tata is MUCH better)

      As for style, do I need to say anything? Just look at that rabbit's teeth grill!

      So, with a Mahindra, you can expect a world-class reliability & dependability. But be prepared for a not-so-good fit, finish & style.

      Mahindra better get some good designers. The tractor designers aren't car designers.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I'm sorry but if they have anything to do with International i'm not a fan. Running a fleet of over 50, 08-10 internationals is a handfull. The engines are not reliable, at least the 50 or so that we have. Terrible trucks, and the engines are disasters. Electronic failures, sensors here and there, destroyed particulate filters, they seem to have been designed by an 8th grader who failed his engineering class.
        • 5 Years Ago
        On Style only, Mahindra will fail here. the end
        • 5 Years Ago
        If the trucks prove reliable and can be priced reasonably and return the economies advertised ... then they will succeed.
        Of course, that is given decent distribution and support.
        Believe it or not a lot of people actually use trucks for work and favor the ability to do so above cup holders and big shiny wheels or even big knobby tires which will never see dirt.

        The big issue here though is that they are going unibody.
        So... the old ones might have held up well... but this is a whole new thing in similar clothes.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Another insight: this diesel engine is the result of a joint venture in India with Navistar (International), which previously made the PowerStroke Dielsel for Ford.

        Basic vehicular structure is an extreeme evolution of CJ Jeeps Mahindra built under contract in India. Mahindra also has joint ventures with Renault.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Trying to sell Americans on an Indian brand they have never heard of AND a diesel is going to be a pretty tall order...good luck.

      Are they going to have their own dealerships or sell through someone else?
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Trying to sell Americans on an Indian brand they have never heard of AND a diesel is going to be a pretty tall order...good luck."

        If you are a farmer, Mahindra's a really popular name. Mahindra tractors are real popular here in the States. Farmers and construction/commercial customers will probably be the primary target market.

        "Are they going to have their own dealerships or sell through someone else?"

        The dealer network is already established. The distributor, GV-USA, actually began as Crosslander USA around 2003-04 before the deal with the Romanian government collapsed. A large majority of the Mahindra dealers are former Crosslander dealers; they deciced to stay with GV-USA after Crosslander fell through and they were promised another brand to sell. My guess is the remaining dealers are former Chrysler and GM franchise holders.

        I recently ran upon a website for a Mahindra truck dealer in North Carolina, and Serra's Alabama group already has dealerships ready in Birmingham and Montgomery.
        • 5 Years Ago
        They should have partnered with someone, and do a rebadge like Fiat will with Lancia/Chrysler.

        Nissan needs truck partners after the Dodge thing fell through...
        • 5 Years Ago
        Check their site www.mahindrana.com..the 2 dealers they have lined up here in the phoenix, AZ, area, are existing dealerships. So it seems they are piggybacking on existing, successful dealers. As for other comments, they are supposedly "refreshing" the exterior styling for the US market. This refresh should extend to the Scorpio, as well. I don't like the idea of a unibody truck, though. As long as it has taken Mahindra to get just their existing 2 models here, I seriously doubt that they could redesign the Scorpio that fast and get it here at the same time as the TR20/40. I, however, could be wrong, and would be happy to be proven wrong.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Report: Absolutely no on looking to buy Scorpio SUV at any time.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Ugh. The trucks are cool and I could imagine them doing well. Heck I'd even consider one. Scorpio on the other hand is destined to flop. Pretty much the last thing we need here.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Regardless of reliability and durability. Exterior appearance means a lot in the American market. The Scorpio reminds me of the Mitsubishi Montero (not the Sport version) that almost had a future, but was largely too top-heavy. The only brand that could possible get away with unbalanced dimensions is Land Rover and maybe M-B (G-wagen).
      • 5 Years Ago
      Oh god, why?

      So ugly, and will probably do poorly in crash tests.
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