• Jan 14, 2010
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Bob Lutz is at it again, telling Drive.com.au that he would love to see a Commodore-based sedan back in America as a Chevrolet. Or, to use the quote-machine's own words:
"If we can pull that off and we have the next generation Commodore in as a police vehicle then we want to take a look at reintroducing a civil version as a high-end Chevrolet. Because when you get down to it the thrill of high performance driving is unmatched by anything that doesn't have rear-wheel drive, bags of torque and a nice transmission. So there's a possibility of a premium Chevrolet sedan that would be sold in limited numbers. Think of it as a kind of four-door Corvette."
As if you needed any reminder, GM is introducing the Chevrolet Caprice PPV as a law enforcement-only model this year, and naturally there's rumblings of a civilian version or a re-reborn Commodore version being offered sometime in 2012 carrying the Chevy SS moniker. Despite our love of all things G8 (dead or not), we'll believe it when we see it. Yet again.



[Source: Drive.com.au]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      I hope they bring it over and soon my 92 has 300,000+ miles and I need a new one. However I won't buy a FWD auto, I like the way a RWD drive much better. I would like to see Chevrolet build them here but It's still the car I want to spend my money on so bring it over.
      • 5 Years Ago
      "Despite our love of all things G8 (dead or not), we'll believe it when we see it. Yet again."

      Then GM is no different than old GM which also failed to learn from its mistakes over and over again. G8 was a flop and Americans did not like it why bring Commodore back again?
        • 5 Years Ago
        There was plenty of advertising for the G8, more than any other modern GM car that I can think of other than the Malibu and their trucks.

        The two main problems I can think of with the G8 were the naming and timing.

        As mentioned above, how is one to know the difference between a G3, G5, G6, and G8? BMW has gotten around this mainly due to years of sticking with the same names, Pontiac only had those names for a few years. I see Lincoln as having a similar problem, but moreso since there's nothing to distinguish the size of the vehicle from the name.

        Secondly, and likely more importantly, the G8 came to market right when gas prices were rising and Americans were shedding larger vehicles and moving towards small cars. That killed early sales and they just never recovered from that.

        • 5 Years Ago
        "G8 was a flop and Americans did not like it"

        .....no. The G8 was loved.... by the people that knew it existed. The average public didn't even know of the G8, due to lack of advertising- hence low sales.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Pontiacs problem is naming their cars G this G that. G What?
        Most people didh`t know a G3 from a G8.
        Pontiac should have stuck with their traditional model names.
        A Proper GTO should have been the G8.
        RIP Pontiac, It wasn`t your fault.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Perhaps you missed the part in the quote about this being a limited production vehicle?

        Oh, right, you're bias prohibits you from seeing clearly.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Pontiacs problem is naming their cars G this G that. G What?
        Most people didh`t know a G3 from a G8.
        Pontiac should have stuck with their traditional model names.
        A Proper GTO should have been the G8.
        RIP Pontiac, It wasn`t your fault.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Obvious troll is obvious.
      • 5 Years Ago
      jesus, this guy is a piece of work! gotta love him.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Even if his promises are broken, he's got the passion and doesn't want to build appliances..
        • 5 Years Ago
        He certainly likes to hear his voice doesn't he
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yeah, I've pretty much stopped believing anything that comes out of this guy's mouth until his handlers release something official.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I'm commenting on this purely to point out that the polishing lackey left his rag on the spoiler...

      That being said, despite the fact that it didn't break new styling ground or quality ground, or sales ground, it is still one of the best looking RWD sedans ever made. It's proportions are SPOT ON. The stance in a straight rear view is pure muscle. My brother who doesn't follow cars at all actually called me after seeing one on the road to comment on how awesome it looked in his rear view mirror and while it passed him.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Caprice no. How about a Camaro sedan. That would get people's attention and maybe customers outside of the midwest would buy it.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Isn't the CTS-V supposed to be like a four door Corvette? Maybe he should have said a Chevy version of a CTS-V. Or not? Hmm.

      At any rate, I think Lutz might just be saying what he wants/thinks, and not necessarily what is going to happen.

      I can't take anymore of this emotional roller coaster.
        • 5 Years Ago
        4-Door Corvette has been used to describe many GM performance sedans for years. I think there probably IS a decent market for this car but I'm unsure if it should be a Chevy. That marque is supposed to be the "value" leader for GM, and I think it would be a shame to de-content it in an effort to make it fit that mold. I hate to say it but without a Pontiac or Oldsmobile division, it's hard to see a clear place for this car.
        • 5 Years Ago
        He should have said, "...A four door Camaro". Cause it uses the same chassis as the Camaro, the exact same chassis.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This car is loved by every auto snob I know. The european with which I work who wouldn't go near any American car always says how cool it looks and thought of buying it. Top Gear loves it. All the car blogs love it. Those who say it was a combination of bad timing and poor marketing have it right. There is no reason they can't sell this in decent volume as an Impala or Chevelle SS. If they can price the Regal GS in the mid 30's , then it should be possible to sell an SS version of this for 35-40K (essentially re-badged G8 GXP most likely using the LS3 engine). Plus it fits nicely with the Camaro on the sales lot. All those who love the Camaro but can't for family or comfort reasons justify it can slide right over into this car. I suspect CAFE presents the biggest hurdle since if it sells in volume it hurts fleet rating , but it's hard to justify ventures that do not have volume potential.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I like the idea!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Isn't "high-end Chevrolet" an oxymoron?
        • 5 Years Ago
        No more so than "witty Steve".
      • 5 Years Ago
      The styling is a bit conservative, but the Commodore's styling always has leaned that way (actually, save for the high-performance versions, pretty much all aussie-derrived cars are abit bland style-wise). But so what, if you look at the top sellers in family cars, they are Toyota's and Hondas, the most bland sedans out there. I agree that the G8's problem was practically no-one knew they existed and if they heard about it, dismissed it because it was a Pontiac until they saw one right up front. 35 years of offering under-par cars with an inch of bills on the hood made it an uphill climb for a car like the G8 to succeed, with penny-pinchers playing tug-o-war with the money and unions crying foul because it was imported not helping matters.

      While Lutz does shoot his mouth off to much, GM needs him to succeed more now than ever in his efforts to push product through. New GM is still stacked with too many pencil pushers from Old GM who don't have enough vision to see past their own paychecks. Ford for the most part seems to have figured this out, given the new products they are introducing. The best thing to do at this point though, is to bring over BOTH the Holden Caprice as the Caprice and the Commodore when they are refreshed in a year or so, and market the Caprice to cops and livery-companies (since the Towncar is dead, they will need a spacious yet nice and modestly priced rear-drive sedan to replace them with to haul execs from the airport) and offer it as a limited issue sedan to the public, and the Commodore as the Impala replacement and market it as an alternative to cars like the VW Passat CC. Keep the Malibu as the Accord/Camry bread-and-butter family sedan. Then they can also bring over the wagon and the Ute as well, given all the federalization is done for the Ute, that should be a no-brainer. Lastly, they need to re-focus their marketing to go after desirability vs the current "look at our prices" advertising. Few people are proud of the fact they own a cheap car. And don't say Chevy can't do it; if Hyundai can sell a car like the Genesis, and have people want to buy it given the brand's history, then Chevrolet should be able to do the same.

        • 5 Years Ago
        Livery companies aren't looking at a "Chevy" to replace their Town Cars. They require more "curb-appeal" than a Chevy can muster. American limo companies have been using Lincoln Town Cars and Cadillac Devilles (DTS's) for years now. Both companies (Cadillac and Lincoln) have real nice in-house groups specifically devoted to the professional car market. It's not like either company makes a ton of money on that industry but, it IS very high-profile and therefore worth their effort. The only high-volume markets Chevy can look forward to are possibly the taxi, police, and rental fleets. Unfortunately, while they help bolster the company's sales numbers, they do little to help their profit margin since they are usually sold at VERY heavily discounted prices.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Agree with a lot of what you said except for the bland styling, that was a big reason for its lack of success. You bring up Toyota and Honda as vanilla but best sellers but keep in mind people who shop for Accords and Camrys don't shop Pontiac and really don't shop for rear wheel drive muscle cars, they are completely different demographics. People who want muscle cars want a statement, think the success of the Mustang, Charger, Camaro, etc. The G8 was a great car with a very classic well proportioned design but it wasn't bold enough for American tastes.
      • 5 Years Ago
      It seem that GM does not learn its lesson, G8 did not sell well, the americans did not like it, it was over prize... and NOW this a caprice.. gimme a break not another crapy car from GM.. they need work performance,Value and Safety and LOOK"""

      GM stop being so cheap.. Tax payers Money was for reason"""""




        • 5 Years Ago
        Hey dumbass. Learn English before posting on an English blog.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ palacios

        I am not even going to point out why your comment is ignorant and uninformed, because I doubt you would be able to comprehend what I say.
        • 5 Years Ago
        ....sigh
        • 5 Years Ago
        Overpriced?!?!?!? Are you insane? This car is a bargain at MSRP. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'd buy another G8 GT in a heartbeat. This car is fantastic. If they make a Chevy version, I'd buy that when I'm ready for a new car. But I'm hoping to keep this one for a long time.

        Other comments about the boring styling, you're crazy. This car looks MUCH better than the Charger. It turns heads. People ask me about it all the time. While I'm upset it wasn't around for more than 2 years, it is kind of nice driving a car that is fairly rare compared to the common accord/camry.

        I'm hoping the price is in line with the G8 since it will be a Chevy. It will be a shame if you want a sporty RWD sedan from GM that you'd have to pay premium for a Caddy.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Ditto the comments about just making it the Impala. Make both a two door and a four door, that would be cool. I remember my grandma's late 60's 2 door Impala with the small horizontal wings. That was style.

      Don't even think about calling it a Corvette. I lost all remaining respect for Chrysler when they brought back the Charger as a 4 door sedan, especially considering their plethora of existing sedans. Chevy is going through a similar situation now with multiple similar sized small 4 door sedans, yet not a single good 2 door small car for GM.

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