• Dec 30, 2009
Another country heard from – this time, a mole in Lexus of Europe has announced via the corporate Twitter account that the LFA's V10 will definitely not be going into the GS F. The supercar's 10-pot wonder is "bespoke to LFA," which is ur-English for something custom made, but in this case we'll take to mean "None of you can have this engine if you don't drive an LFA."

You'll note that the 106-character tweet deftly avoids confirming the existence of any sort of GS F in the first place – a car that has existed solely as a fairytale for nigh on three years – with the deflection, "not going to comment on those." But at least now if the GS F does come, we know what it won't have. But hey, they didn't rule out a derivative, right? Hat tip to Stan!

[Source: Lexus Europe Comm via Twitter]


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      invisiblepigeon3
      • 5 Years Ago
      Like I said like ten million times in the other post about this topic!!!! Probably see the 2UR-GSE reworked and HOPEFULLY turbocharged. Can you imagine the sound of that V8 with a turbocharger on it?
        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        @Purplewon

        Of course turbos are a fad. GT-R engine has the same power with LS7, but it weighs 50% more (600 lb with all the fittings), consumes more, costs at least twice as much, and so far reliability has not been so stellar. So where is the advantage?

        Let's take another case, the much lauded EcoBoost from Ford, the famous engine that produces the power of a V8 and has the fuel consumption of a V6, right? No. Last week Ford released the specs of the Coyote V8, based on the 15 year old Modular architecture. And guess what, it has the same fuel consumption with EcoBoost V6, yet it is more powerful, while it runs on cheaper regular gas.

        Turbo fad is for 15 year olds who read imports magazines and never owned a car.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        Really? I've got two Lexus and I'm 26. I totally fit your description there don't I? (I actually do LOOK like I'm 15 but that's thanks to my cosmetic surgeon)

        The reason I suggest that it might be turbocharged is because the M5 and E55 will have significantly more than 416bhp. Toyota used to have a fantastic turbo'd inline 6 in the Supra. If they can implement it, into the engine's layout and fit it in the GS engine bay, twin turbos would be a great way to compete with the BMW and Mercedes Benz, without driving the cost up.

        I don't think that people who've suggested that the LFA engine be used in the GS realize that the LFA's engine probably costs almost as much as a GS and would be terribly suited to the task of moving a massive sedan around. The M5 and M6 never made really good use of that V10. Got beaten by a Porsche 911 with 100bhp less on top gear even.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        @Itsuru

        Haha, good catch mate.
        Still, the reason I have Speed 8 as my avatar is because it is the most bad @ss looking thing ever built in motorsport. It has nothing to do with TTs. Turbos are cheaters' way to the podium, they are the hardest thing to properly regulate in racing. Turbos are the reason why Porsche dominated prototype racing for two decades with the crapiest chassis on the track, much like the Audis in the past 10 years.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        The raw sound of the V8 is what your looking for, not a turbo verison. Turbo are for v6 sportscar, not a m5, it wont sound as nice. The only reason why their(toyota) probably going to make it a v8 with turbo is because it cost less to produce, and next m5 is going to have v8 with twinturbo so is the audi s6(if not already).
        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        I dont think that Lexus will bring a turbocharge engine right now, due to making enough HP with a naturally aspirate engine.

        A lot of manufacture go turbo because is a cheap way to make HP. That's why Im respecting the fact that Lexus is not going back and forward with turbo or no turbo.

        I also think that the GS-F will bring a tuned up IS-F engine. I think that engine has more room to make more HP.

        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        Dondonel, that's a nice twin-turbocharged car as your display picture.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @invisiblepigeon3
        Actually turbocharged engines sound muffled/dull.
        Turbocharging is just a fad, turbolag is still there and fuel consumption is not improved compared to the same generation of n/a engines (with the same power output).
      • 5 Years Ago
      Hopefully "bespoke" does not rule out its being passed to Lotus.

      The formula is:

      Lexus V10 (with Lotus heads or badging)
      + Lotus Evora VVA architecture
      - Evora rear seats
      - Evora silly styling
      + Bigger wheels, tires, brakes
      + Lotus chassis tuning
      + Smokin' hot bod

      = 3000 lb. Ferrari/Porsche/Audi/Lambo killer

      That's a car I would find a way to buy.
        • 5 Years Ago
        How about a new Lotus Esprit instead of a evora. and no bigger wheels, tires please, this is westcoastcustom where you dub every rim n tire. Keep it clean, n i'll dig it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ben,

        I had hoped it was pretty clear that I was talking about the next gen Esprit, which has been long rumored to have this motor, and which will be built on the VVA.

        The bigger wheels, tires, and brakes would be necessary because such an Esprit would have more horsepower. High horsepower requires upsizing traction, braking, and driveline components. I wasn't talking about dubz.
        • 5 Years Ago
        this isnt not is********
      • 5 Years Ago
      richard hammond gets to review this car on the next top gear episode this sunday, its gonna be epic!
      JDM Life
      • 5 Years Ago
      mmmm well good news none the less....because this means that theres a GSF coming....Sweet.


      The ISF 5.0 engine worked and tuned for more power is move then enough.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @JDM Life
        Yes, it's good to know that GS-F is coming after all. If they can make 500hp in 3700lb RWD machine, GS-F will be M5 killer. I wish Toyota will use automated manual transmission in F performance.
      • 5 Years Ago
      How do you say "Pass" in Japanese?
        JDM Life
        • 5 Years Ago
        How do you say shut up in Japanese ?
        • 5 Years Ago
        You would "pass" on this, yet were compelled enough to click on the article and make a post. Odd.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Makes sense. I think it would somehow cheapen the car if its engine showed up in another Lexus that was less then half the price. I'm thinking Nissan should keep the GT-R's engine just for the GT-R and not have it show up in some monster Infiniti either, but that's probably something they are still talking about. Strangely, I'm totally okay with the LS9, LSA combo in the ZR-1 and CTS-V.
        JDM Life
        • 5 Years Ago
        anything American is much cheaper and not very complicated. American engines are not as sophisticated as the German and Japanese engines...

        Americans autos just focus on making alot of power...perfect example...LFA engine vs ZR-1 engine
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ferrari V12s > LSx > everything else...
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        Not really sergey... not even close LOL
        • 5 Years Ago
        OF course you would say that, despite the fact that despite the complexity of the Japanese and German cars, the ZR-1 and CTS-V out perform rivals costing thousands more. I know what a crate engine LS9 costs, how much would the V10 be separately. Three times, five times as much or more? It should be "more complicated." The only way you can prove whatever point you have is by comparing a car that costs 3x as much, but when it comes to even similarly marketed vehicles the Americans you look down on perform better. I'll take simplicity and better engineering over a complex overpriced slower car every time.
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