• Dec 29, 2009
Prior to Ford Motor Company's statement that it had agreed in principal to sell Volvo to China's Geely, some former Volvo executives wrote a letter to Bill Ford voicing their collective concern with the deal. The former execs felt Geely didn't have the cash or products to keep Volvo competitive and there was also a sense that Geely would somehow change how Volvo was run.
Reuters reports that Volvo has nothing to worry about, at least according to the head cheese at Geely. Geely founder and chairman Li Shufu reportedly told the official Xinhua news agency "if the deal succeeds, nothing will change for Volvo, except the boss turns to Li Shufu," adding that Volvo and Geely will be "independently-managed brands." Besides showing that CEOs can be as good at referring to themselves in the third person as any pro athlete, Shufu also insisted that Volvo's production, research and development facilities, union agreements and dealer networks will all be left intact.

Reuters estimates that acquiring Volvo will cost Geely about $1.8 billion dollars, though Shufu adds that the complications over intellectual property were much more costly than the final price tag. The Geely chief added that Volvo could help the Chinese automaker move more upscale, including helping the company build what he calls an "energy-powered vehicle." We're guessing he's referring to electric vehicles.

Shufu making such a public statement is likely welcome news to the many workers at Volvo, but there will likely be at least some changes in store for the storied Swedish automaker. For example, Shufu mentioned that Geely could help Volvo lower production costs, which could mean that parts that are currently produced in Europe could instead be made in China where labor is considerably cheaper. Beyond that, who knows what future lies ahead of Volvo. Shufu may be saying all the right things now, but his actions over the next few years will show whether he means what he says.

[Source: Reuters]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Riiiight. Tellin' people what they want to hear, then when Geely has the power for a minute BAM production shifts to China, R&D is cut, Geelys are being sold out of Volvo dealerships etc....
      • 5 Years Ago
      It's all part of the plan folks . . . the Chinese are on a roll. Eventually, they'll own and run the whole world (except for Walmart of course).
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yup, they say that now...

        ... but ve know ze truth!
        • 5 Years Ago
        I disagree. I recently had lunch with a friend who works for an Investment Bank and he was in China for a year helping them look at investments in Chinese companies and the stories coming back were downright awful. Businesses hide their debts and bankruptcies; factories make drinks with polluted ground water; no one questions what the CEO says or does.

        It's only a matter of time before the shoe drops and China is shocked back down to earth. Unfortunately we're all on the ship together and when it does drop it won't be pretty.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        What "relevant" information did you bring up? You neglect to mention any factual evidence. The fact is that China is CURRENTLY involved in a number of human rights conflicts. They have their domestic ones, that enslave the majority of their population, and keep them in forced poverty. They also abuse the international community, somewhat consentually, by polluting and overpopulating. I say consentually, because the west buys the junk that the make in China, so we contribute to their abuses. Also, they CURRENTLY sponsor genocide in Darfur, by supplying the Sudanese government with cheap weapons, in exchange for cheap oil. They also have no quality control on their production, and they ship goods that are not only counterfeits of quality items, but also things that are loaded with poison and defects: toothpaste, baby formula, tires, etc.

        Oh no! Idealism is a bad thing? Living up to your moral principles is only for fairy tales? Reality has to be you chained to a job you hate, living your life vicariously through your TV set and the celebrities you wish you were? Just because you live vicariously, doesn't mean that it's the correct thing to do. In fact, it's objectively detrimental to do so. You inevitibly have to live with your contradictions, or compromise your moral principles when they disagree with your "reality". Apparently you can't have ideals or morals, and live in "the real world"? What a horrible existence you must have.

        Hating something for rational reasons, is not the same as being "biased". Those are not "personal brainwashed feelings". Moral judgement may be something that you've deemed impossible for mere mortals, and you leave it up to a ficticious god or to the controllers of the government, but I think for myself. Sucks for you, if you're incapable of doing that.

        Japan, and just about every other nation in the world has human rights abuses somewhere in their history. That doesn't mean that they do it TODAY. The Chinese are doing horrible things TODAY. I don't know why that's so hard for your dumb @$$ to comprehend. Maybe you've ingested too much lead from your Wal Mart food or something. People like you are so infuriating, because you'd rather sit there and defend something you know is wrong, than make the simple objective decision to change.

        It's not a matter of China getting things right, right away either. They're one of the oldest civilizations on Earth! The USA has barely been around for 300 years. China has had governmental rule for thousands of years! How can you say "get it right, right away" to that? That's so stupid! Just so stupid! You're unbelieveable!
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        What "relevant" information did you bring up? You neglect to mention any factual evidence. The fact is that China is CURRENTLY involved in a number of human rights conflicts. They have their domestic ones, that enslave the majority of their population, and keep them in forced poverty. They also abuse the international community, somewhat consentually, by polluting and overpopulating. I say consentually, because the west buys the junk that the make in China, so we contribute to their abuses. Also, they CURRENTLY sponsor genocide in Darfur, by supplying the Sudanese government with cheap weapons, in exchange for cheap oil. They also have no quality control on their production, and they ship goods that are not only counterfeits of quality items, but also things that are loaded with poison and defects: toothpaste, baby formula, tires, etc.

        Oh no! Idealism is a bad thing? Living up to your moral principles is only for fairy tales? Reality has to be you chained to a job you hate, living your life vicariously through your TV set and the celebrities you wish you were? Just because you live vicariously, doesn't mean that it's the correct thing to do. In fact, it's objectively detrimental to do so. You inevitibly have to live with your contradictions, or compromise your moral principles when they disagree with your "reality". Apparently you can't have ideals or morals, and live in "the real world"? What a horrible existence you must have.

        Hating something for rational reasons, is not the same as being "biased". Those are not "personal brainwashed feelings". Moral judgement may be something that you've deemed impossible for mere mortals, and you leave it up to a ficticious god or to the controllers of the government, but I think for myself. Sucks for you, if you're incapable of doing that.

        Japan, and just about every other nation in the world has human rights abuses somewhere in their history. That doesn't mean that they do it TODAY. The Chinese are doing horrible things TODAY. I don't know why that's so hard for your dumb @$$ to comprehend. Maybe you've ingested too much lead from your Wal Mart food or something. People like you are so infuriating, because you'd rather sit there and defend something you know is wrong, than make the simple objective decision to change.

        It's not a matter of China getting things right, right away either. They're one of the oldest civilizations on Earth! The USA has barely been around for 300 years. China has had governmental rule for thousands of years! How can you say "get it right, right away" to that? That's so stupid! Just so stupid! You're unbelieveable!

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ChinaDemography.svg vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_of_Japan_since_1872.svg

        As you can see, China is continuing to overpopulate and reproduce prolifically. The problem is that they do this because they'e generally poor and ignorant, brainwashed peasants, because they live under a communist system. The Japanese represent a much smaller portion of the world's population than China, and yet for many years they had the second largest economy, second to the USA. Why? Because the Japanese emphasized quality over quantity.

        So China, is your ancestral homeland huh? You must think I'm quite the racist for all my "China bashing". In reality, I'm not, though. The China that used to be, had some of the most sophisticated ideas about science and contributed greatly to the development of civilization with everything from gunpowder to the magnetic compass being credited to their scientists. So WTF happened? They fell into the trap of communism. You say that they're in the process of becoming "developed" but they're really not. They were developed before they became communists. Now they're just industrializing. They're doing it in the most painfully stupid way too; because they've got idiot communists at the helm. It's not the Chinese peoples' fault, who are born into a corrupt system.

        I'm not going to contribute to that corrupt looter system. China claims that communism works, but it doesn't. Their communist nation is totally dependent on the West buying their goods, to give them the money to survive. If they had a closed-off economy, they wouldn't survive, becuase there would be no money and everyone would continue to live in poverty. They'd be just like North Korea(who gets financial aid and food from South Korea by the way). So, actually China doesn't "bend to the will" of the west, they just suck off it like a parasite, like all communist nations are.

        So get it right. I don't
        • 5 Years Ago
        ...and there's a side to this that is shameful as well. As Aeromax pointed out, almost everything sold in Walmart stores is made in China. And, perhaps not widely known, Walmart bought out the largest retailer in China a couple of years ago and now Walmart is the biggest retailer in China - as well as in the rest of the world - so a great deal of the responsibility to assure fair treatment of and protection of workers falls largely on Walmart's shoulders. However, Walmart's track record in this country is not stellar. For instance (and I was a Walmart assistant manager) the company buys the cheapest employee insurance and benefit plans it can find. Here in the mid-south, Walmart insures through Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Alabama (notoriously one of the worst) even though its stores are in Tennessee where Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Tennessee is rated one of the best. But the company - to save money - insures through BC/BS of Alabama. Of course, the bottom line with Walmart is the dollar and - typically of a huge company - they look for the cheapest, least expensive way to cover necessities. But to those who work for Walmart, they appear to put anything and everything ahead of the welfare of the people who work for them. So, don't expect Walmart to be overly interested in fair & ethical treatment of factory workers in countries that supply the merchandise that fills their stores. The bottom line at Walmart is the dollar(!).
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Luis: What you want is great in theory. I think everyone would like to have those things you state. However, as long as someone in the world is poor and hungry they will trade any amount of safety or protection to put food in their belly and a roof over their head.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Geez invisiblepigeon3 . . . love the Chinese do you? Damn(!) Why don't you go live over there where you BELONG!
        • 5 Years Ago
        China has been able to manufacture products for a good value unlike US which has saddled manufacturers with pro labor policies, stringent environment/workplace laws and min wage. So you can see it happening car manufacturing as well, China is already the no 2 auto manufacturer behind Japan (12 mill vs 10 mill) and by 2015 it will be no 1 producing over 16 million cars vs less than 8 million in US.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Invisiblepigeon3 is right, of course, but only in a sophmoric way. Reality has us by the balls. Walmart sells everything people need nowadays and there are virtually no alternatives. You virtually can't turn to some other source for the things you need/want because - as the biggest retailer in the world - Walmart has all but become our ONLY source. But that's my point (stated earlier). Walmart shoulders the bulk of responsiblity to make sure people, workers, employees, suppliers, are well treated and not mis-treated. But they don't and they don't care. Walmart only cares about the bottom line . . . the almighty dollar. Hell, they didn't even 'care' when Sam's wife - and the boy's mom - died a few years ago. Not one store hung a black wreath on doors, no mention of her passing was made either in-store or otherwise, and no statement came down from 'the throne' in Bentonville regarding her having lived, bore the sons then-running the company, nor was any mention of her passing made other than a mention on national news. Walmart didn't care and certainly Sam's sons didn't. So, do you think Walmart gives a rip about people laboring away in countries for next-to-nothing wages, turning out products for consumers all over the planet? Don't kid yourself. Walmart could care less. Just as long as they get not just their share of the money, but ALL of it(!).
        • 5 Years Ago
        Aznato's right, we'll never win the race to the bottom with environmental and labor laws coupled with a minimum wage. While we're at it we should bring child labor back.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Just an addition to a comment then Luis mentionned (#6), I spotted an article from the Toronto Globe & Mail who mentionned an housing bubble who could threaten Shanghai after Dubai http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/housing-bubble-threatens-chinas-boom/article1413701/ and the Chinese government had built an empty city http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h7V3Twb-Qk
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Aznauto: Of course the immediate response from the unpatriots here is to blame America first. How about demanding that products we buy are made in clean factories? Or by people who make a decent wage? Or have protections against being maimed and having decent compensation if they are injured on the job?

        We don't want our factories polluting the air we breathe or our sisters getting their fingers sliced off in a factory with no re-course, but we're more than willing to support that by feeding the beast and racing to the bottom like Chris said.

        We're human beings and we should respect each other. Those who blame workers who rightfully want to organize and protect themselves against unscrupulous, profit-at-any-cost board members are shameless. That being said, union bosses who use their organizations to untold ends are also unethical. There is balance that needs to be met with protecting the common good (workers) and ensuring that the businesses aren't hampered by unending concessions.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        You know what the simple solution is? Stop being morons and shopping at Wal Mart, and stop buying Chinese made garbage! Take away their money supply, and they'll go away. Keep feeding the monster and it will eat you too. It's really quite simple.

        And Aznauto, China doesn't make anything at a good value. They destroy the environment. They enslave their own people. They rip off western designs and manufacture them dirt cheap. There's a huge cost to their cheap products.

        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        Dude, I would never set foot into a Wal Mart. Most everything I buy is Made in USA. All of the food I eat is from USA, Europe, Australia or NZ. My clothes are USA, Italy or NZ. All the consumables I use are from civilized countries as well.

        You CAN get almost completely away from Made in China, it's just tough to do. It's well worth the extra effort and money to have things that are well made though. I can't imagine how people go spend 100 dollars on shoes that were made in a slave shop in China. New Balance makes some right here in the USA. Those are the ones I buy. It's simple: just don't walk into a Wal Mart, and shop somewhere else.

        Like a tumor with no blood supply, Wal Mart will shrink and die.

        I think most people in this country have forgotten what nice ANYTHING is, from clothing to furniture. I think it's given consumers amnesia to having owned nice things at one point.

        The only thing I've bought in the last few years that has been Made in China has been electronics, which I couldn't find any alternative country of origin for.

        I check labels, call and email manufacturers, and find out where things are made before I buy. I'm on year 4 of my Anti-China mission. I started by throwing away most everything I had that was made in China LOL
        • 5 Years Ago
        Considering probably 99.99% of the stuff in Walmart is made in china, they sorta own that in a way too...
      autorizedhwy
      • 5 Years Ago
      buy gelyf buy allot of gelyf
      • 5 Years Ago
      so they still think people believe in those chinese bullsh*t? lol
        • 5 Years Ago
        anonymous j,

        I believe the reason most people in the West are so overly prejudice against, or even hate, the Chinese is because the media here only focus on the bad things that go on in that country. Nobody ever talks about the good things that are happening over there. And some of the more close-minded people honestly believe that nothing good is going on in China. This type of mentality is hard to change and really won't help anybody in the long run. This is basically Cold War II.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        They didn't invent anything since they've become communists... That happened last century, in case you weren't paying attention. I doubt you know any history.

        First off, the Chinese didn't invent paper, the Egyptians invented papyrus paper. The Chinese invented printing presses, gunpowder, the magnetic compass and a bunch of other stuff... when they weren't communist.

        You don't seem to know exactly the principles of communism or socialism, what altruism's real cost is, or what drives economies to success or destruction.

        Your pathetic excuse making is typical of someone who's ignorant. You think "well everyone's entitled to an opinion. No one is right or wrong, nothing is objective. It's all just a matter of opinion."

        Except that's BS, just like everything you say.

        Yes, let's bring up Toyota and Japan. If Toyota has genuinely slipped in quality, screw them. I have no brand loyalty. I'll go buy something else, or keep my old Lexus vehicles, and not trade them for new ones. I'll drive the f'ing things forever, if there are no good cars made anymore.

        The problem with you, is that you genuinely think that I care one bit what brand is on my car. Brand history doesn't matter if the brand has fallen, now does it? Jaguar, Ferrari, Maserati, and a bunch of other big name carmakers have fallen down, and people kept buying, because they thought the emblem meant something. That's extremely irrational, and I don't buy into BS like that. Look at brands like Cadillac; once a great luxury nameplate, that for decades has been a total joke, when it comes to objective engineering merit!

        Japan and the USA, and pretty much every country in Europe has had religious war, genocide, civil war, or slavery involved in their history.

        They do NOT support such practices today, like China does. That's the whole point. You can't seem to get that all that stuff that I posted links to, and the fact that the Chinese are buying massive amounts of debt and will have massive amounts of leverage over the USA and the West is happening NOW.

        Do you live in a house where everything's made in China and bought at Wal Mart or something? Is that why you object to logic and reason?

        • 5 Years Ago
        and what exactly did the Chinese do to not be trusted?

        did they bomb pearl harbor?
        did they murder 6 million Jews?
        did they invade another country (*cough IRAQ *cough) under false pretenses?

        or

        is it because you ignorantly stereotype the entire population for the mistakes of a few greedy businessmen?
        in that case should all Americans be put into the same category as those wall st schmucks who put the ENTIRE world into a recession?
        • 5 Years Ago
        invisibletool

        you mention exploding chinese tires, but what about exploding japanese tires?
        did you forget about firestone? i wonder how many people died there? at least the chinese tires were cheap.
        not to mention they just had another recent recall this year.

        and what about toyota and its recent string of recalls? don't see you mentioning much there. with all their cover ups maybe they're the ones not to be trusted.

        you mention pollution, did you know the average american emits 20 tons of pollution annually compared to 6 per person in china? of course you didn't.

        you mention china as a communist nation that doesn't innovate, when in fact china invented the necessary inventions for society to progress. did you forget about paper? did you forget about the entire paper money system? how about gunpowder? how about the entire japanese culture which is actually a complete derivation of china's.

        and talk about innovation, where are you bashing hyundai and kia for their facelifted hijacked designs which their entire lineup consist of?

        so stop it, you're just nothing but a corporate toyolex/japan sponsored hypocrite, pure and simple.

        so please stop with your repetitive nonsense.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        joe, Stop polluting with your BS. That's such a load of nonsense.

        First of all, China is an economic parasite. They import money, and export trash goods and pollution. They're a communist nation that doesn't innovate; they only copy. They only produce goods, designed in countries that allow for freedom of thought; the most important kind of freedom.

        There's nothing wrong with Chinese when you're talking about a culture, history or ethnicity. Supporting COMMUNIST China as a nation, is unethical, to say the least. It's counterproductive to every economy in the world, to feed them money, as they abuse their citizens and the environment.

        Your "Cold War II" statement needs some clarification. Do you think that the USSR should have won the Cold War?

        The only reason that the USA and the West won the Cold War, is because they are communist, and communism inevitibly leads to national poverty, and the West was capitalist, and true capitalism leads to innovation and wealth. I'm not talking about the BS false capitalism that we've got going on where CEO's make 40 times what a factory worker makes, and he does nothing. I'm talking about the production and trade of goods, of the highest quality, that demands innovation for companies to compete.

        In China, innovation is impossible. There's no money for R&D. There's only the incentive to undercut the next guy, by making counterfeit goods even cheaper. China is winning the race to the bottom, with themselves, very well.

        The only problem with them destroying their country, is that they're buying all of our debt, and as a result, they'll own us. They manufacture everything, stupid fat ass Americans go to Wal Mart, buy their poison, and throw all of the money down the toilet.

        Tell us all, PLEASE, what good is coming out of China? Enlighten us.
        • 5 Years Ago
        excuses? in which of any of my posts have i made excuses? i'm sorry if bringing up relevant information is screwing with your brainwashed information.

        stop acting like you know anything, everything you say reeks of naive idealism. in this world you live i'm sure you think there is world peace and no war or poverty and we all hold hands skipping around in a f'in circle, but this is the real world.

        you say i don't know objectivity when that's all i promote. whereas here you are constantly making one sided subjectively biased comments non stop. here's the definition of objective since you don't seem to know what it is from dictionary.com:

        5. not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.

        you are driven by your personal brainwashed feelings. everything you spew reeks of bias. you talk about china as if you expect them to be perfect when your precious japan is not even perfect. who knows how many recalls were covered up or settled out of the spotlight.
        i recognize china's problems, but at the same time i don't expect them to get everything right, right away unlike you.
        i'm not going to lie, china being my ancestral homeland, i've got a bit a problem when dbags like you are basically trying to incite war against china with your moronic cold war like mentality and talk.

        you say money to china is bad with its massive population to support, but money to japan is good. why?

        china is simply going through the motions that ALL developed countries at one point went through to become developed, yet you seem to have a problem with that.

        would you prefer that china remain in poverty forever? that would be okay with you then right?

        or is it a problem that china doesn't bend to the will of developed western countries like SK and japan do? is that the problem?

        you are nothing but a hypocritical bandwagon jumper. its okay though i understand this is how you make your living, considering there is probably not much else you are good for cept talking gibberish on the internet.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        What "relevant" information did you bring up? You neglect to mention any factual evidence. The fact is that China is CURRENTLY involved in a number of human rights conflicts. They have their domestic ones, that enslave the majority of their population, and keep them in forced poverty. They also abuse the international community, somewhat consentually, by polluting and overpopulating. I say consentually, because the west buys the junk that the make in China, so we contribute to their abuses. Also, they CURRENTLY sponsor genocide in Darfur, by supplying the Sudanese government with cheap weapons, in exchange for cheap oil. They also have no quality control on their production, and they ship goods that are not only counterfeits of quality items, but also things that are loaded with poison and defects: toothpaste, baby formula, tires, etc.

        Oh no! Idealism is a bad thing? Living up to your moral principles is only for fairy tales? Reality has to be you chained to a job you hate, living your life vicariously through your TV set and the celebrities you wish you were? Just because you live vicariously, doesn't mean that it's the correct thing to do. In fact, it's objectively detrimental to do so. You inevitibly have to live with your contradictions, or compromise your moral principles when they disagree with your "reality". Apparently you can't have ideals or morals, and live in "the real world"? What a horrible existence you must have.

        Hating something for rational reasons, is not the same as being "biased". Those are not "personal brainwashed feelings". Moral judgement may be something that you've deemed impossible for mere mortals, and you leave it up to a ficticious god or to the controllers of the government, but I think for myself. Sucks for you, if you're incapable of doing that.

        Japan, and just about every other nation in the world has human rights abuses somewhere in their history. That doesn't mean that they do it TODAY. The Chinese are doing horrible things TODAY. I don't know why that's so hard for your dumb @$$ to comprehend. Maybe you've ingested too much lead from your Wal Mart food or something. People like you are so infuriating, because you'd rather sit there and defend something you know is wrong, than make the simple objective decision to change.

        It's not a matter of China getting things right, right away either. They're one of the oldest civilizations on Earth! The USA has barely been around for 300 years. China has had governmental rule for thousands of years! How can you say "get it right, right away" to that? That's so stupid! Just so stupid! You're unbelieveable!

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ChinaDemography.svg vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_of_Japan_since_1872.svg

        As you can see, China is continuing to overpopulate and reproduce prolifically. The problem is that they do this because they'e generally poor and ignorant, brainwashed peasants, because they live under a communist system. The Japanese represent a much smaller portion of the world's population than China, and yet for many years they had the second largest economy, second to the USA. Why? Because the Japanese emphasized quality over quantity.

        So China, is your ancestral homeland huh? You must think I'm quite the racist for all my "China bashing". In reality, I'm not, though. The China that used to be, had some of the most sophisticated ideas about science and contributed greatly to the development of civilization with everything from gunpowder to the magnetic compass being credited to their scientists. So WTF happened? They fell into the trap of communism. You say that they're in the process of becoming "developed" but they're really not. They were developed before they became communists. Now they're just industrializing. They're doing it in the most painfully stupid way too; because they've got idiot communists at the helm. It's not the Chinese peoples' fault, who are born into a corrupt system.

        I'm not going to contribute to that corrupt looter system. China claims that communism works, but it doesn't. Their communist nation is totally dependent on the West buying their goods, to give them the money to survive. If they had a closed-off economy, they wouldn't survive, becuase there would be no money and everyone would continue to live in poverty. They'd be just like North Korea(who gets financial aid and food from South Korea by the way). So, actually China doesn't "bend to the will" of the west, they just suck off it like a parasite, like all communist nations are.

        So get it right. I don't
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        Anonymous j...

        Here's why the Chinese aren't to be trusted. You assume that because people hate a specific country's government or aspects of their culture, that they hate everyone in the country. That's not true, but stereotypes EXIST FOR A REASON!

        China has unethical slave labor conditions, rips off western designs, abuses animals, destroys the environment, and is generally an unscrupulous nation because it's run by communists.

        Here's some reasons:

        Chinese fur farms(WARNING: only watch video if you've got a strong stomach!!!): http://www.peta.org/feat/ChineseFurFarms/index.asp

        Fake eggs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0US7JEfhsrA
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55tz4qwFMo

        Poison baby formula: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-09-11-tainted-formula_N.htm

        Exploding Chinese tires: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/business/worldbusiness/26tire.html?_r=1

        Chinese environmental abuses: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/31/AR2007033101287.html?hpid=artslot

        World's most polluted cities. China has 1st and 2nd place: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1661031,00.html

        More can be found at www.chinasmack.com It's a website that is mostly posted on by Chinese people who LIVE IN CHINA, and it's all in English. Go and see the things they say about themselves.


        For more reasons not to trust anything made in China:

        http://madeinchinaproductrecalls.com/

        http://www.china-recalls.com/

        So, apparently the stereotype DOES exist for a reason.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Having owned both pre-Ford and post-Ford Volvos, there is simply no comparison. The post Ford cars were not particularly reliable, build and materials quality went down and dealer service and spare parts distribution became substandard, if not terrible.
      Geely will have to bring back the value add that most pre-Ford Volvo drivers wanted, namely, longevity, ruggedness and build quality. Ford lost that and also lost momentum on new product development, in a misguided attempt to go upscale.
      What we pre-Ford Volvo drivers now drive are Subarus. Subaru has what Volvo used to have - a terrific, safe, economical, extremely well built, long lived vehicle that is practical and relatively fun to drive, depreciates little, and has outstanding dealer and factory support. My Forester is what a Volvo 240 would have evolved into if they had kept to their original planning and execution process at Volvo.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I saw a bunch of loser here...

      Greetings from Europe.
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        With grammar like that, you must be from eastern Europe. Are you from one the former Soviet states? LOL
      • 5 Years Ago
      I have no personal ownership experience with Volvo. The one instance in which I seriously considered it the dealership left me with a bad taste experience. I was looking for a T5 S60, which a telephone conversation stated they had one. We planned for a visit within 24-hours at the dealership.

      Got to the dealership and the salesperson was gone--out delivering a car. Spoke to several folks at the dealership about the T5 S60 and they said they hadn't had one in months. Hmm. When I presented what I was told on the telephone they didn't seem to care and walked away. I guess that they didn't wish to check other dealership inventories.

      This left the wife and I feeling a bit uncomfortable as we felt like we were not potential customers, but yesterday's trash. We bought a BMW instead. Sometimes buying a new car isn't as easy as one would imagine--when the dealership isn't looking to sell anything.
        • 5 Years Ago


        My wife and I had a similar experience with our local volvo retailer. They couldn't be bothered to show us an xc60, we also felt like "yesterdays trash". In contrast the BMW and VW retailers we happy to assist us.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Hey at least they actually spoke to you! A couple years ago, my wife and I were over at a Volvo dealership and were outside looking at the S40 for a good ten, fifteen minutes and not one person came over to talk to us. We left and took our business elsewhere.
      invisiblepigeon3
      • 5 Years Ago
      Yeah, nothing will change. They'll just add some "quality" Chinese parts and the cars will begin to spontaneously explode.

      Geely is good at outright counterfeitting cars. I mean look at what "Made in China" is good for: counterfeit eggs that cause brain damage, fake grapes, fake baby formula, fake purses, fake cars... I get where this is going...

      The next thing to do would be to "cut costs" by replacing the airbags with foam stuffing. Steel structures can be replaced with vacuum molded plastics. Maybe they can even find a way to make leather poison you transdermally?

      "ENERGY POWERED VEHICLE GO!" vvvvvvvvvzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzBOOM!

      China would be a funny joke if it wasn't so seriously disturbing how they acquire industrial manufacturing and then destroy it. Innovation will cease, and quality will drop through the floor. All the while, the corrupt businessmen in China will line their pockets. How many brands has this happened to already?

      • 5 Years Ago
      "They're Gr888888t!"
      • 5 Years Ago
      Uh huh.

      Heard all this crap before. "We are going to leave them as-is".

      Yeah right. I give them 3 years before Geely steps in and moves everything over to China.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I don't disagree, but Volvo has not been making money so something has to give.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I don't think FoMoCo has ever broken-out it's division's individual profit/losses, have they?

        I don't disagree that Volvo probably has not been a huge profit-maker for Ford, but then again, they have been tasked with developing a lot of technology that Ford has been using corporate-wide, stuff that they might not have spent the money developing if it only going to be used for themselves. That costs money.

        We'll see what happens, but it would be pretty damn sad to see Volvo get ripped apart - of course I have no doubt that that will happen eventually.

        • 5 Years Ago
        I don't disagree, but Volvo has not been making money so something has to give.
      • 5 Years Ago
      ""if the deal succeeds, nothing will change for Volvo, except the boss turns to Li Shufu," "

      Volvo has poor sales and is a money loser. Geely really wants to pay $1.8B for this and not change anything? I don't believe that.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Yes... the Chinese are to be trusted...
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