• Nov 29th 2009 at 12:19PM
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There have been rumblings about VW getting into F1 by signing up with a specific team, but the chatter was always quashed. This time, reports suggest that VW is actively talking up the idea of getting into Formula 1 after 2012, but as an engine supplier to multiple teams. Hans-Joachim Stuck, VW's motorsports head, said with the way F1 engine regulations are going -- especially with costs and the potential of the "world engine" -- it could be the perfect opportunity for VW to start pumping out powerplants.

While future F1 regulations are still undefined, and VW's eventual entry into the series is by no means guaranteed, it's clear that VW's looking for ways to show off its engineering chops and get its name onto tracks. Stuck recently visited a NASCAR race and spoke about the company looking to get into the GrandAm series, and perhaps IndyCar.

Interestingly, the very conditions that Stuck sees as favorable for VW's entry are the ones that a number of F1 teams and fans are, at best, ambivalent about: substantially lower costs, spec engines, and more than 24 teams on the grid. With a new FIA president, what F1 is going to look like after 2012 is almost completely unknown. Hat tip to Stefano

[Source: Autosport]

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      • 5 Years Ago
      One step closer to world domination!

      Ein Stolz! Eine Macht! Deutschland!
      • 5 Years Ago
      I have followed F1 for 30+ years and I don't understand all the gloom and doom about cost cutting.

      It seems to me that when the major auto makers started fielding factory teams was the point when F1 became it's least interesting. With all the money the factory teams spent there was no chance for privateer team to develop a winning car, there was never going to be a new McLaren or Williams.

      It looks to me like F1 is heading the right direction now. If they just get rid of more of the aero grip and maybe loosen the engine regulations a bit we would have very innovative series. Think back to the 1980s, the drivers could follow a lead car closely and actually pass, and the cars looked great.

      Just my 2 cents.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I agree. The comment that the teams are "at best ambivalent" about cost cutting is only true for a very small number of teams. And those teams are the ones who are willing to spend everyone else out of competition.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The 'doom and gloom' about cost-cutting is apt. $300 million a year to unsustainable, especially for the privateers.

        VW will only consider entering F1 if the World Engine is adopted, meaning that they would be able to use the same engine in Indy, LeMans, WRC, etc as they do in F1. This was Max Mosley's idea, and for once it makes sense.

        So if the 'World Engine' is adopted expect a lot of other manufacturers to re-enter the sport as engine suppliers as well.

        F1 being 'less interesting' due to manufacturers I have to disagree with. F1 isn't really a sport, you can't win with driver talent alone. Its ultimately about the cars, the development, the technology, and the driver that manifests all that into a victory. F1 isn't a spec-series.

        The problem with F1 over the last years has been due to horrible political infighting, and cheating scandals, and keep in mind the two biggest cheaters (McLaren-Mercedes and Renault) are two of the manufacturers that will remain in the sport next year.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I hope they go back to lower reving v12 and crossplane v8s to give these cars some character in thier sound again.
      • 5 Years Ago
      World engine - no no no no no!! Do we really want the same engine used in everything? F1 loses a lot of what makes it F1 if this happens :(

      I vote with Ian: give some some basic guidelines (say maximum power, engine development program cost cap, one of a set list of fuels) and let them go for it and INNOVATE. If max power was set at 750hp then they can work on power & torque curves, fuel efficiency, weight & size, etc, while not spending over the prescribed amount. Could see TDIs v ethanol V8s v turbo petrol V6s v ??
      • 5 Years Ago
      No, F1 will never again see a 10,000 RPM engine (nor a 15,000 RPM engine). If "VW ponders becoming F1 engine supplier", it will be with a Porsche merger engine, not a Lambo V10 or AUDI twin turbo V6.

      In fact; this tells me that F1 might just go Goldwing style flat-6. I can see F1 using 1.8l engines.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Both you guys, LOL!
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