• Nov 25, 2009

2008 Dodge Viper ACR – Click above for high-res image gallery

After setting a new lap record at Laguna Seca the other day, Dodge announced some minor revisions to the all-conquering Viper ACR for the 2010 model year. The snake that swallowed the famed 11-turn race track whole will be treated to some revised gearing and aerodynamics, a new short-throw shifter, the addition of a new color to the catalog and an updated interior to boot. There'll also be a special edition ACR to commemorate the record-breaking lap time. But in the process, a senior Chrysler executive clarified some rumors that have been circulating regarding the next generation Dodge supercar.

Back in August we reported that the next-gen Viper could get a heart transplant in the form of a Ferrari-developed modular engine. The program spearheaded by Chrysler's new corporate cousin in Maranello was tipped to form the basis for new engines that would find their way into the bays of upcoming Maseratis, Ferraris and Vipers. But in speaking with AutoWeek, Dodge brand chief Ralph Gilles reportedly put the brakes on the rampant speculation, saying that any collaboration between Dodge and Ferrari on the Viper's replacement wouldn't extend beyond some input from the Italian marque on the car's development. And while that doesn't necessarily mean the engine programs couldn't be merged, "Ferrari is Ferrari, according to Gilles, and "Viper is Viper".

[Source: AutoWeek]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      The Viper is what Pamela Anderson would look like if she had four wheels. I understand some guys like that kind of thing.
        • 5 Years Ago
        yeah....I'd pass on Pamela Anderson for a brunette with real boobs. Thanks.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

        As for the Viper, no thanks. Way too garish for my tastes. And I've never been one to believe raw muscle = great car.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Ferrari fans, you may now step away from the ledge. Your horsey will remian pure.
        Lar7789789
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yea, I don't know if I could ever picture a Viper without its monster V10 engine.

        I guess it would be cool and definitely kind of different to see a way smaller sized, multiple valve OHC V8 in the Viper.

        If they made the Viper a little lighter, and smaller, it should be just as comptetitive as it is now.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ferrari is working on turbo technology. i wouldn't be surprised to see the Viper get a turbo V8 or V10.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Lar7789789

        otherwise known as a corvette
      • 5 Years Ago
      Viper will keep its American blueprint...........Fiat is not going to mess up with it.
      Viper is my favourite American car, I love it because it is wild, unforgiving, and ..............it doesn't make sense, which as an Italian is a quality I like in cars.
      I am sure Marchionne understood what Viper stands for and he won't try to transform the car into an American Ferrari.

      Viper is not a super car to start with, same as the Corvette.
      Of course they can compete in performances with the best supercars out there, but they are not exclusive cars, they use modified engines from production cars, while supercars usually have their own engine developed exclusively for the brand or model and they are handmade to a certain degree.

      For me not even Aston Martin are supercars .
      Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Zonda, Mclaren are what I call supercars.

      The only way Viper can become a supercar is if its engine is designed and made exclusevily for Viper, and not taken from another production car or truck.
      Not sure what Fiat wants to do with Viper but I guess it won't change too much about its philosophy.
      I believe Ferrari will help make the Viper engine, but it will be designed mainly by American engineers.

      Personally I would like Viper to be made indipendent from Dodge, like Ferrari is from Fiat.
      I would like to see more Viper models out there not just one.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I agree with the first half of your post, your logic on the second half is makes no sense. Let's take Porsche for example. The base 911 is not considered a supercar, same as the base Corvette. All 911 engines are derived from the same block. Makes your point inaccurate. The ZR1 and Z06 only share base Corvette's engine architecture, not it's engine. The base Corvette's engine is made on a production line, the Z06 and ZR1 engines are assembled by the hands of 1 of 4 engineers. No other car shares the Viper's engine.

        Note: Lots of small supercar makers are using corvette (Z06 & ZR1) engines to power their "SuperCars"

      • 5 Years Ago
      All this talk about collaboration with Ferrari is a tad ironic considering the V10 from the Viper was originally sourced from Lamborghini.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Good Viper will be put of it misery next year one of most over rated sports car: poor quality, cheap interior and chessy design,
      • 5 Years Ago
      give me a break. This is the best joke I heard in a long time. Viper a supercar. Sure it may meet the criteria for top speed. But everyone knows the Viper handling capabilities is by far not up to par.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I hope you're joking...
        • 5 Years Ago
        What in the world are you talking about?

        "everyone knows the Viper handling capabilities is by far not up to par"???

        Does "everyone" mean just yourself? If you haven't noticed, the Viper ACR has been setting track records world reknowned race tracks, you can't do that without having superb handling... read a review for once, sheesh...
        • 5 Years Ago
        What a fool thing to say. In the super car/sports car world, the Viper ACR is a STUD. The proverbial "Bull in the China shop", the schoolyard bully.

        When I was in the Navy, and we made a port, the unofficial liberty call was "Hide the Women & Children"

        Don't care what you are driving, on track day, the Viper ACR is the last car 99.99999% of all "supercar" owners, want to see at the track.

        Damn car is the size of a small pickup truck, yet still it out powers and out handles almost all proper sports cars & super cars on the planet today.

        That my friend, is a SUPER CAR.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Dieter

        what, then, defines a super car, if not performance?
        Lar7789789
        • 5 Years Ago
        dmanero
        2:15PM (11/25/2009)
        give me a break. This is the best joke I heard in a long time. Viper a supercar. Sure it may meet the criteria for top speed. But everyone knows the Viper handling capabilities is by far not up to par.



        Why is everybody even paying any attention to this, and replying to this ridiculous???

        "dmanero" is probably some 15 year old kid, who is a GM fan, who can't get over that the Viper is one of the most superior cars on the road today.
        • 5 Years Ago
        My characteristics of a super car:

        1. Blisteringly fast - The Viper hits sixty in well under 4 seconds and 200mph isn't out of the question. The Viper qualifies here.
        2. Neck bending handling - The Viper has set track records at Laguna Seca and the Nurburgring, I'd wager that it handle quite well.
        3. Unmistakeable looks - Supercars can't look like a Chevy Impala or Honda Accord, they have t be unique. The Viper qualifies here.
        4. Racing pedigree - Vipers go racing. Whether it's a weekend warrior in a personal car or a professional on one of many circuits, Vipers see track duty.

        Sure, it is the very definition of brutal and the interior is more Spartan than a work bench, but I don't think there is any doubt that it is a super car.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Im confused, it runs right up there with other supercars as one of the best times on so many tracks, like Laguna Seca. What do you call a car that competes alongside other supercars? I doubt you have driven an ACR, but just guessing... I never have, so I don't know how it handles myself, so I will leave that alone.
      • 5 Years Ago
      It's not like a V10 co-developed w/Ferrari would dilute Ferraris image any more than the Ford V6-based V12 did for Aston Martin.. They would share the same basic architecture, but the cylinder counts would be different (V8's for Ferrari/Maserati and V10 for Dodge).
      • 5 Years Ago
      Good. They need to retain the Viper's brutish feel.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I like how Ralph Gilles actually understands the concept of the Viper. Sure, they can go to Ferrari and build a mid-engined supercar, but the market for that kind of car is large and nameplates are a huge factor.

      Gilles understands the Viper has a niche in the supercar market by having raw power, little refinement, and outlandish styling.

      No other car on the market serves this niche as well as the Viper does.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Long live the Viper!
      • 5 Years Ago
      @Dieter

      what, then, defines a super car, if not performance?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yeah, I want to know this too, Dieter. Do tell.

        Just FYI, older Ferraris and Lambos had terrible outward visibility, stiff clutches and blah blah blah. And they were supercars. So if you want to go on about the Viper's shortcomings, (a) it won't be in the performance category and (b) other supercars have had the items I mentioned above.

        Ball's in your court.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Whatever happens with the next Viper, I hope it keeps a V10 engine. The V10 is a defining characteristic, just like a V8 is to the Corvette or a flat-6 is to a 911.
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