• Oct 30, 2009
Toyota FT-86 - click above image for hi-res gallery

In news that will only shock those that haven't been paying attention, Toyota has reportedly confirmed that if the market demands it, there will be a convertible version of the new FT-86. Though Toyota still hasn't settled on a name for the upcoming budget rear-drive sports car, the announcement of a drop-top option lends a bit more credence to the rumor that the Celica nameplate might be brought back from the dead.

Now, the notion of a convertible Celica really shouldn't shock anyone. However, what should shock you (at least a little) is the possibility of convertible Subaru. Because, besides a few one-offs and at least one was-never-going-to-see-the-light-of-day concept, Subaru has never built a convertible. And of course, this means that the very real possibility of an all-wheel drive, 300+ horsepower, 300+ lb-ft. of torque, six-speed manual Subaru roadster exists. Where do we sign up? Thanks to everyone for the tips!



[Source: Auto Telegraaf via Motor Authority]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Name this thing Celica, thats what it is! Do bring out a convertible version, since the last celica generation did not have one. Also when are we going to see the Subaru coupe version of this car?? Subaru if your listening name it SVX.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Hold off on the convertible and even then make it a limited model run.

      As for the name, slap a Celica namebadge on it and call it a day. Corrola is taken so going the old school route is out, naming it the A-86 or whateva it is, is out also due to Toyota not having a naming structure within Toyota but in Lexus. Having it go to Scion and naming it a Td or something similar would make alot of sense and give Scion a big helping of credibility but sadly price was stated as around 20-22k. This is far outside Scion's price range of the "teen" pricing that the models now float around. The Celica though yes girlie due to its last generation's apparent appeal would benifit Toyota as re-emerging as a "sporty" brand. That and the new girlie coupe is the Tc anyways.. I have yet to see any men driving one.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Toyobaru or Sciobaru?
      • 5 Years Ago
      As for the name, I hope they don't bring back the Celica nameplate, because over the years it went from cool RWD to FWD chick car.

      For a compromise in name, how about Scion TE-86, or Tc-86, lol. Either way seems like the "86" or Hachiroku moniker is too good to pass up. I think Mazda might be a bit worried with this 'vert news. Sure Miata's are great handling, lightweight RWD cars, but I don't ever want to be caught driving one. Looks like a cute guppy.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Im all for a 300hp coupe version of this, w or w/o AWD, im also for a minimalistic roadster with the base engine... but lets not get carried away and make pig out of a good thing, mmkay?

      Add the mass of the big turbo engine, fwd transaxle, structural reinforcements for the base convertible PLUS more reinforcements to handle the extra drivetrain mass and power and you have a recipe for a heavy, uninvolving, and expensive little car.

      Mission creep kills.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I feel like the bigger issue is going to be price...do they want to go up against the 370Z or Gencoupe?

      Convertable smonvertable...focus on the basics... affordable, lightweight, RWD, 6spd man tran. Do those right and they have a winner.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Toyota, please build the convertible. And make it more competitive than the Solstice was against the Miata. When I'm in the market for a roadster in 2 years, this will be the car that I cross-shop with the Miata.

      Oh, and people that wouldn't consider the Miata because of it's chick-car stigma aren't really car enthusiasts.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Just concentrate on making a good coupe first, then worry about the ragtop...

      Please don't ruin it by making something cheap that no one wants.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Which is why I think the Scion nameplate would totally dilute the integrity of this car. It appears Toyota and Subaru are creating this car the right way, with the right intentions of emphasizing "sports car" and not simply "sporty coupe."
      • 5 Years Ago
      If you are interested in the FT-86 please join us

      http://FT-86.com
      • 5 Years Ago
      I really hope it's not taking the scion badge. It's such a trend brand. No pure enthusiast desires the trendy hip edginess that Scion tries to bring to the market.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Mazda just started to pay even more attention to this concept.

      RWD
      200-hp
      $20k MSRP
      and now convertible???

      That last bit puts it in MX-5 territory
        • 5 Years Ago
        LOL most men wouldn't be caught dead in a Miata? I disagree. The Miata may be pretty tame on the horsepower front, but it is one of the most communicative and balanced cars on the market, and when you consider the cost, it's a huge bargain. The only reason there's not one in my garage is because it's a roadster. Should they make a fixed-roof fastback version, I'm in.

        If you're a guy who "genderizes" your cars based on horsepower, then you're stuck driving a hamfisted Camaro or Challenger. Welcome to dead steering and endless plowing. I'll take a "chick car" any day if it can dance.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Hopefully it's a little more "ballsy" looking than the Mazda Miata. I for one would not be caught dead buying a cutesy Miata...as most men wouldn't.
        • 5 Years Ago
        MX-5 territory? Right on!

        Count me as one ex MX-5 owner that is hoping this winds up being the MX-5 coupe I've been dreaming of.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Great too see a convertible option as well. Call this car Celica and give me the option of buying a GT-Four option with 300 hp turbo four and all-wheel-drive!
        • 5 Years Ago
        There's no STI coupe, that's kinda the point. I don't want a "sports" car that has a place for a baby seat.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yeah I understand where you are coming from. Realistically though, I would rather this top out at $30k than anything lower and get alot of nice features for that price than a more stripped down entry level car. I look at it this way, back in 1998 my Mom bought a brand new Celica liftback. In 98 fully loaded it topped out at a bit over $26k. Twelve years later I think that shooting for a $20k car would make it very cheap in materials and features. We shall see though, hopefully Toyota and Subaru will over several trim levels so they can be competitive in various price ranges.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I personally would rather have the Celica. I am along time Toyota sports car enthusiast for 25 years now. I use to dream of one day Toyota bringing over the 94-99 GT-Four Celicas. There is so much heritage with Celica that I would prefer it over the Subaru.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @9600b: it's a 2-door coupe, not a 4-dr / 5-dr. simple as that.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I thought the same but then it hit me... there's already a car like that and its called an STI. So whats the point?
        • 5 Years Ago
        As BoxerFanatic has said numerous times, this car cannot have AWD unless it has an extremely unique front diff, center diff, transmission, etc.

        Not only that, but I seriously doubt Subaru would allow a car that's that similar to the STi to ever see the light of day.

        • 5 Years Ago
        so what youre saying is that mercedes cant make the C63 AMG because theres already an M3
        • 5 Years Ago
        I'm still against the Celica name. If they wanted to revive the Celica then they should have referred to it on the concept instead of the FT-86. They also brought up drifting as a goal for the product and I dont see any Celicas running around. Dori Dori didn't drove one.
        I dont think Subaru will let Toyota step too much into their territory by helping them revive the GT-4/All Trac especially since its a Subie trademark not Toyotas.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Not only that, but I seriously doubt Subaru would allow a car that's that similar to the STi to ever see the light of day."

        Toyota OWNS Subaru. If toyota wants it, they'll get it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I don't think it should be called a Corolla AE86 or Celica. Both of those names mean a lot to Toyota and having them powered and based on Subaru tech seems wrong IMO. Time for a new name.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I dont know if they really can say convertible as the are still deciding wether this car is being made or not when I talked to the chief project manager... But maybe they made their decision?

        If you guys want to learn more about the FT-86 photos videos etc... join us on our forums at

        http://FT-86.com

        Hope to see you there
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