• Oct 28, 2009
The ramifications of America's. Cash for Clunkers program are still being figured out – which isn't all that surprising given that a total of 700,000 or so sales totaling $2.877 billion were processed in just one month. And besides facing the unfortunate lack of suitable demolition derby material, scrapyards are reportedly finding themselves ill-equipped to deal with all the junked iron sitting behind their barbed-wire fences.

To fully benefit from the program, these scrap cars need to be properly recycled, a process that includes removing most (if not all) of the good usable parts from each vehicle before sending the remaining hulk through crush and melt-down machines. According to the rules outlined in the original Car Allowance Rebate System documentation, recyclers had six months to dispose of all these car-casses. Apparently, that's not nearly enough time.

The American Recyclers Association explains that the initial six month deadline might have been acceptable before Congress tripled the size of the C4C program, but more time will likely be needed to deal with the mess left by the program's expansion. Another six months is now being requested of the Department of Transportation, though no final decisions have been made thus far.

[Source: The Associated Press via MSNBC | Image: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      What a disgusting example of Socialism, a waste of tax payer dollars, and a waste of perfectly good cars.

      Kick out CONgress in 2010! No to Democrat rule!
        • 5 Years Ago
        Err, one minute socialism is against business; next minute it's a "disgusting example" of business stimulation.

        Which is it, freako?
      Lar7789789
      • 5 Years Ago
      dude, that 1996-1999 model year cadillac Sedan deVille looks like its in pretty good shape and that must be worth at least 6-8k depening on where you live.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Lar7789789
        Tourian, not to mention the head studs that frequently fractured, necessitating an engine pull, to get the rear head off. The Northstar is great in theory, but in practice, not so much. As for resale value, my mother-in-law got 10k for her 2001 deVille (with 50k miles) in 2005, when trading for a new Lexus ES330. The Cadillac and and Lincoln dealers only offered 6-7k.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Gee... who would have thunk that 6 months isn't enough time to do the job right.

      I wonder if the dealers will see their "gub'ment cash" before the 6-month timeframe, let alone getting those cars properly scrapped.

      This program was the Titanic of FAIL BOATS. There was not a single aspect of this that wasn't either bungled, or completely ludicrous from it's inception.

      Car dealers and salvage yards have done their jobs, and performed their services just fine at re-allocating and re-cycling older vehicles, without the government's help. The government spent money it didn't have to screw things up. AGAIN.

      And people still think they should have a crack at Labor, Medicine, and Energy, which are much more vital. No way in hell should that be allowed.

      Capitalism hasn't failed. The regulations that restrict capitalism have failed. Capitalism hasn't been allowed to resuscitate.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Um, the program worked. The program worked so well that it was out of cash in a few weeks and needed more cash. The average MPG increased by 9 from the average car traded in to the car purchased. Inventories moved. Factories are churning again. Yet here on AB, the wingnuts continue to deride anything they can possible sink their teeth into.

        Shameful, really, how some people will grasp for just about any lie or misconstruction of the truth to further their own misbelief and then try to spew it to others.

        So I ask, how did Rush's teat taste this morning?
        • 5 Years Ago
        PS... just for the greenies who want this program to get good cars off the road...

        I want to (but probably won't...) pour out some 5w30 on the ground, as a toast to the fallen cars that went far before their time.

        A couple of SVXs that are probably in BETTER condition than mine gave up some parts that mine needs... But I would rather those cars were still on the highway (getting 30mpg at cruising speed), where they belong.

        ~140 of them are now on death row for crimes they didn't commit, amongst the other nearly 3/4 of a million vehicles now off the market.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Luis,

        "The program worked so well that it was out of cash in a few weeks and needed more cash. "

        By your measure government health care should be raging success by the time it runs out of money.

        There was a study by economists that showed that the C4C program cost more money than it created in "stimulated" sales. So it's not like "experts" are all in agreement that it even accomplished its goals.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Such a waste of functioning cars.
        • 5 Years Ago
        i agree, if they were to turn around and donate these cars to charity i'd be all for it...
        • 5 Years Ago
        Not really... Metal prices are through the roof right now. There are probably a lot of companies in the metal industry (like maybe metal roofs, or cheap toys or something) that are going to be happy all this raw product is going to be coming back into the cycle. Although, I could also be completely wrong and we should go get back all of our old Tahoes, Explorers, Ecoline vans, and Mazda B3000's....
        • 5 Years Ago
        "To fully benefit from the program, these scrap cars need to be properly recycled, a process that includes removing most (if not all) of the good usable parts from each vehicle before sending the remaining hulk through crush and melt-down machines."

        so they actually take parts off cars that can be re-used?
        where are all the psychopaths that were crying about c4c taking much needed parts off the road?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Sounds like a reasonable request to increase the time allotment to recycle the junk cars.

      Now for the bombardment of how terrible the program that worked was...
      • 5 Years Ago
      Someone's getting his talking points mixed up....
      • 5 Years Ago
      Amen (except for the awful Ford Windstars, like the blue one in the middle). A local TV news story here in Dallas showed a local salvage yard crushing C4C cars. The only thing they were removing were the doors, which they said they were shipping to someone in Michigan (to replace rusty ones, I suppose). One of the cars they showed being crushed was a Cavalier, which I seriously doubt qualified under the C4C program.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Absolutely nothing wrong with crushing a Cavalier...
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ Cornholio

        Something Georgia Tech MIGHT have done last weekend :)
      • 5 Years Ago
      It's really sad to see some of the nice iron in there-BMW E30s, E28s, MBZs. There was a 93 500SL at the Pick a Part in Stanton. However, I found a nice E28 535i 5 speed that had nice parts I took for the re-build of my E28. It had a new radiator, an unblemished hood, fenders and front bumper. Lots of these cars have parts that are far better than the regular stuff at the junkyard. It's nice if you have a car you're rebuilding. I still hate the premise of destroying a running engine in the way C4C mandates.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wasn't this supposed to mean scrapyards would be going out of business because they couldn't get any parts?

      Now it seems they have too many parts.

      Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

      I must share this: at work, I walk past this truck with a pristine bed. Two bumper stickers "So how's that hope and change thing coming along?", and over the other side: "The only thing necessary for evil men to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

      I mean, really. I couldn't have said it better myself.
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