• Oct 27, 2009
The crew from Japan's BestCar magazine have apparently taken the initial pics of the Toyota FT-86 concept and grafted a unique nose, rear fascia and wheels onto ToMoCo's new sports coupe, and while the result is less-than-fetching, the accompanying report offers a pseudo-confirmation of what's been suspected all along.

According to BestCar's (notoriously unnamed) sources, the Subaru coupe (internally dubbed 216A) will come equipped with all-wheel drive, and a choice of two engines in Japan – the 250-horsepower 2.0-liter EJ20 or the worked over, 300-hp boxer four from the WRX STI.

Naturally, the additional kit will result in a substantial price increase over the Toyota version, not to mention a 220-power weight penalty courtesy of its AWD drivetrain.

There's also talk of a slight increase in height, width and wheelbase, but no word on whether the Subaru coupe will make it to U.S. shores. If it does, expect it to arrive sometime after its introduction in Japan in 2011, with a price tag somewhere around the $30,000 mark.



[Source: BestCar via 7Tune]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      I'd buy one if the interior fit and finish are good. I've been looking for an AWD coupe. Suggestions everyone?
        • 5 Years Ago
        I think that the only other AWD coupe on the market is the A5, but I'm not too sure there aren't others.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "BMW makes awd versions of the 328i and 335i coupes as well."

        many, myself included, would rather get shot in the leg than be seen in a BMW.
        stealthebeatles
        • 5 Years Ago
        Jeep Cherokee two door.

        I kid, I kid.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Nissan GTR
        • 5 Years Ago
        audi TT if thats in your price range
        • 5 Years Ago
        TT is optional AWD and the G37, not really sure I would recommend them though. The used market has better AWD offerings.
      • 5 Years Ago
      thats no subaru. i mean where is the ridiculously oversized wing? or the shotgun blast venting?
        • 5 Years Ago
        What on Earth are you talking about? The wing that exists on one model? And I have no idea what vents you're talking about.

        Personally, I hope it looks a lot like that. Looks better than the Toyota version, which I already like.
        • 5 Years Ago
        i have no idea what your talking about.
      • 5 Years Ago
      There goes Best Car with their rumors again ;)

      I tried to talk to Subaru and they would not really comment on the
      project. Same when you ask Toyota chief project guy

      If your interested in the Toyota/Subaru 86 please visit us at

      http://FT-86.com

      thanks in advance!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Subaru turbo coupe...crank up the boost, it's going to get modified!

      http://www.tunedperception.com
      • 5 Years Ago
      I like it! But I don't think they have it quite right. It looks too much like the current Subaru offerings. I think we need to look to the Hybrid Tourer concept or whatever for some styling cues. But knowing Subaru, it'll be even uglier than this render... lol
      I think it's great to have this and Toyota's version. They'll attract two completely different set of needs and regions of the US. We in the snowy regions, love all things AWD. I do think that Subaru should offer a non turbo version. Maybe even two different types of AWD systems. It'll keep the base price lower.
      If it's a Subaru, it must have an AWD system. Any idea what AWD system it'll use? If it's a manual trans, it'll be a continuous AWD system. If it comes in automatic flavor, it'll be the Active AWD system or maybe even the VTD system. Any possible way it'll have the STi's AWD?? That would be epic. But not cost effective. In any fashion, I doubt it'll cost quite as much as the STi given its size and placement in the model line. It's not premium enough to cost that much. That's Legacy territory. And even if it did, it'll still sell well purely because Subaru has a cult-like following that is just itching for something like this.

      On a side note: How bout they do what Hyundai did with the Genesis and make an awesome (and better looking/performing) coupe out of the Legacy? Or stuff the 2.5 or the 3.6 H6 into this beast... haha Wishful thinking... lol
      • 5 Years Ago
      The rendered picture look a lot like the Hyundai Genesis Coupe especially in the front and the rear roof line.
      • 5 Years Ago
      300hp, around 3200 lbs, AWD. Sweet!
        • 5 Years Ago
        3200 lbs for an awd coupe, small frame, turbo, is too much. It's too similar in performance to the STi. Maybe that's why they expect the price to be $30k USD ( equivalent ).

        Assuming it's 2011, and the car goes on sale:

        $30k gets you a hell of a car, no matter what MFR you talk to.
        A used Porsche Cayman for around 30k. Then you're driving A FREAKING Porsche. Subie or not, I'd take a Porsche flat 6 over a Subie flat 4.
        It gets you a Camaro with at least 300 HP and lots of grunt.
        It gets you a Mustang with at least 300 HP. The next gen Mustang V6 will put out at least 300 HP.
        It gets you a 370Z. You could find a great used Nismo 350z for that.
        It gets you a WRX. It's around 265 HP and weighs around 3200 lbs...
        It gets you a Ralliart Evo.
        It gets you a S2000, used, with money to spend under the hood or for better dampers.

        Toyota's pricepoint of $20k is genius because they have NO DIRECT COMPETITION.
        Miata? Nope. No back seat. Genesis? Nope. Weight difference is between the two is a hungry offensive lineman, not to mention $4k higher in price.

        Subaru will be ice skating uphill for sales if they price it at $30k.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @weaksauce....

        You mentioned WRX.

        What about this project doesn't sound like a coupe version of the WRX? Possibly even better, between the WRX and STI...

        Some people need a 2+2, which leaves out Miata, S2K, and 350Z.

        Some people don't want a behemoth like a Camaro, Challenger, or an ox-cart-axle Mustang, even if they do have more torque. Not everyone wants to re-live the late 1960s, vicariously through their cars... It is fine for those who do. This Subaru is an option for others.

        G37x doesn't come with a stick, G37S doesn't get AWD, and is probably at least 500lbs heavier, and a GT car more than a sport compact scalpel.

        I love the Cayman... but that also comes with maintenance bills for a PORSCHE. running costs are not that low on a Porsche. BMW coupes also cost a pretty penny out of warranty, when they become as affordable to buy as you describe.

        If it is well appointed, even up to 2009 Legacy Spec B and current WRX STI standards, it could justify a 30-35K price tag. Both of those Subarus cost that much.

        Not to say that a less equipped "R-spec", club-sport, RS, or whatever you want to call it, wouldn't be closer to the ~23-26K price point, with equipment closer to base WRX or Impreza GT standards, or even a non-turbo base engine shared with the Toyota FT-86 for even a bit less money than that.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I don't see this happening the way we all want it too honestly. For them to add AWD to this car would mean they would have to push the engine all the way in front of the front axles if they want to use a conventional Subaru drivetrain setup. That's going to destroy what makes this car great with the motor way back by the firewall and behind the front wheels making it almost midship like a 3rd gen RX7. I'm all for Subaru making another coupe but I don't see the FT-86 chassis doing it without getting really fat, really expensive, or really ugly. All are unacceptable.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The problem isn't with wheelbase. It's placement of the motor within the chassis. It's to far back for a conventional Subaru transmission to be used. The axles would be in line or in front of the oil pan. That's just not going to work.
        • 5 Years Ago
        3,000,000.00 JPY
        =
        33,100.53 USD
        Japan Yen United States Dollars
        1 JPY = 0.0110335 USD 1 USD = 90.6330 JPY

        +100KG. 1.5 inch longer wheelbase.
        13.7Ft long car. The Toyota is slightly shorter.

        So the Subaru has a longer wheelbase and is about an inch longer...
        But:

        This is almost spot on to the current Impreza’s 2620mm so the possibility of them sharing parts or being very similar is undoubtedly high.
        It can happen. I hope they don't charge people through the roof to make it happen.

        Just as it is with Toyota, so should it be with Subaru. PRICE is a key factor not to be overlooked.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I bet Subaru intends to use this for the new WRC S2000 spec.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Probably not because it's still using the boxer motor and i think that S2000 specs are that the engine needs to be transversely located
        • 5 Years Ago
        let's make them...
      • 5 Years Ago
      I do think $ 30,000 is a lot, so maybe it might be a good idea just to offer it in turbo and non-turbo version and with AWD standard. I really don't care about going 200 MPH
      but I do care about handling.

      www.WoodysCarSite.com
      • 5 Years Ago
      great render i hope it looks that cool
      • 5 Years Ago
      If SOA is reading this please note that a coupe with AWD and the tuning of the recent STI 330S would be an instant hit.
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