• Oct 19, 2009
Toyota FT-86 at the Nürburgring – Click above to watch video

In a video that should be titled "Things You Can't Do in a Corolla," the FT-86 has been caught in motion and sound at the Nürburgring in Germany. Of course, the pictures posted last week gave no indication of how it ran, but we can tell you – and so can the video – that it is, as they say in the business, "Hot."

We know what the Toyota concept looks like, but we're not exactly sure which version we see on the 'Ring in the video. It could be the FT-86 from Toyota or Subaru's version. However, if Toyota's version goes like the car in the video, when it finally does arrive, Toyota will truly be able to say it is back in the business of fun. At least a little. Follow the jump to see the vid. Thanks to everyone for the tips!

[Source: FT86 Club]



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      • 5 Years Ago
      Don't we all know what the FT-86 is going to look like or at least look like 90%???

      http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/15/toyota-ft-86-concept-shot-in-the-studio/
      JDM Life
      • 5 Years Ago
      The LF-A, IS-F now this.....Toyota is really working on their performance image....and its working.


      I cant wait to see this...
        • 5 Years Ago
        @JDM Life
        How is it working? Sure you can buy the IS-F right now, but saying that their performance image is improving is a bit premature.

        I hate to say it (because I HATE it when people bring up politics on AB), but saying Toyota's performance image is improving is just like giving President Obama the Nobel Peace Price... it's based on what might/will happen, not what has happened.
      • 5 Years Ago
      The engine sounded strained. And it looks to suffer from pretty bad understeer. That thing needs some wider tires and more power, judging from the video (of course I haven't driven it).
        • 5 Years Ago
        The understeer and the screeching of what sounded like all 4 tires makes me wonder: AWD Subie version? I know it doesn't seem to have a big enough front overhang for that but listen to that audio and tell me you don't hear more than 2 wheels struggling to put power down.
        • 5 Years Ago
        agree with all your comments, but that's what the ring if for! hopefully it comes out with a nice bmw feel and dynamics. It's really all I want from a car.. If its close to that I'd buy one in a heartbeat, and I hate Toyotas.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I think that will more likely be the Subaru but as others pointed out, there's no sound from its boxer engine so I'm not sure. Hopefully they can make it AWD w/ boxer engine otherwise this car will disappoint a lot of Subaru fans.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Toyota is doing something different BUT I don't see them TOTALLY changing their ways.

      My thoughts on this car:

      Base car - Will probably run some type of 2.4 cylinder than they are using for everything. Advantage to this is that it is probably more efficient than the standard Boxer engine yet produces nearly the same hp/torque. (See Camry 4cyl). 170hp 22city/32hwy
      This will keep the base model BELOW the pricing of say Genesis / GTI etc. (arount19k)

      The "upmodel" version will probably be some type of Boxer 4 from the WRX/STI variants. Figure 250hp. This would put it at like $23k area. Squarely at the Genesis model. Since

      Then I'm thinking they will have a Hybrid model (also from Camry Hybrid) but upgraded and revised just in time for the Camry Hybrid/Camry Model to be redesigned. This model could start in the 25k range. With upgraded hybrid tech, better aerodynamics etc will yield and "tricking" the EPA cycle to maximize returns I see like 35city / 41 hwy.

      I don't think Toyota has any other engine to put into this car to make it "peppy" The V6 I think would just be too big for this car and most would rather have a 4cyl turbo.

      I think these 3 engine possibilities would make EVERYONE happy! I know I may just get one for the wife (hybrid) and one for me (enthusiast) and possibly talk my parents into getting a base model for the little brother when he graduates college.

      ** Disclaimer - Current MR2 Spyder Owner and Prius Owner.



      • 5 Years Ago
      years* typo.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I do not hear Subaru turbo motor burble at all in this vid :(
      Perhaps this is the Toyota version

      front looks like a modified STI, side looks like an old school Porsche 944, rear looks like VW Corrado. haha
        • 5 Years Ago
        The stock equal length headers don't produce the boxer "burble." My girlfriend's Impreza sounds a bit throatier than the typical I4, but nowhere near as lopy or "out of tune" as a boxer engine with a modified exhaust.

        Both Toyota and Subaru versions will likely come with the stock equal length headers and won't sound too throaty or burbly. Of course, by the time these cars make it to market, you can bet there will be plenty of asymmetrical header options from the aftermarket to make it sound just like your neighbor's rumbling STI.
      • 5 Years Ago
      heh... yea I missed the "sounds awesome" part... i must have missed the "drives awesome" part too because all I saw was a ton of understeer..
      • 5 Years Ago
      lol @ the ugly comments. They took random parts off OTHER cars and just plastered them onto the chassis. It's the easiest way for them to really test the chassis without people having any idea on what the car is going to look like.

      And if you don't believe me, explain why they're using a Nissan 350Z steering wheel in a Toyota/Subaru.
      http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?s=b8f40bcfe8ff37fdc5451f2a4f32b71b&attachmentid=182&d=1255794499
        • 5 Years Ago
        Exactly. Making comments about the appearance of what is obviously a test mule is just stupid.

        If I remember right, early GT-R test mules used G35 type bodies that looked absolutely nothing like the final GT-R.
        JDM Life
        • 5 Years Ago
        I think you're right my friend.....not idea why they wold use a nissan wheel.....hmmmm
      Stop
      • 5 Years Ago
      sports funeral car.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Hrm. I just got back from the Lake Superior Pro Rally and heard a LOT of modified subarus, and this one just sounds lame. Where's the typical subie burble? This thing sounds as exciting as a toaster.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I can't hear/watch it here at work, but I bet what you're noticing is the difference between a stock equal length (EL) exhaust manifold, and an un-equal length (UEL) on a boxer motor.

        UEL's bring out that boxer rumble.
        • 5 Years Ago
        They are called equal legnth headers, you know, like what porsche typically uses. Not every one like the farting sound of a boxer engine ........
        • 5 Years Ago
        I dunno, I always thought those Subaru boxer's just sounded like they have cylinders misfiring. I had a '72 BMW CS and I had that exact problem once (spark plugs)... That 6 only running on 4 cylinders had a roughness that sounded just like a WRX.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ooh - you say Porsche - must be good then.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Subaru boxer burble FTW.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Gruv "heard a LOT of modified subarus"

        Keyword is "modified". A stock scooby doesn't sound like that. When this goes to production, you can put a similar "aftermarket" exhaust system on it and probably get the same sound.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I think the Subaru boxer is one of the worst sounding engines . Always sounds like it has a misfire.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I like the sound of it.

      I'll wait for the subie version though, there are some proportions of the Toyota concept car that I don't really like. The drawing of the subie version (was posted on AB a week ago) looks fantastic.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I hope you realized that those "renderings" (or 5th grader artwork) is the Toyota FT-86 in blue, some added fender flares, and a Subaru badge.
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