• Oct 19, 2009
2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor -- Click above for high-res image gallery

It's no secret that the Texas Auto Writer's Association loves Ford trucks: The Blue Oval's F-Series pickups have won the Truck of Texas award six straight times. Actually, you can make that seven straight times now, with the F-150 SVT Raptor taking the top honor this year in the Lone Star State.

We didn't go through the precise reasoning of the F-150's dominance in previous years, but the arrival of the Raptor probably made the choice just too easy this time around. After having driven the Raptor ourselves we knew that there is simply nothing like it, and nothing anywhere near as good as it is, to be found in the OEM pickup truck world. When you throw in the purchase price of $39K for the 5.4-liter, you're going to look hard to find a similarly priced competitor in the OEM or aftermarket. The press is after the jump, and to Ford, congratulations are well deserved.

UPDATE: Turns out that the F-150 was actually named this year's Truck of Texas, not the SVT Raptor model specifically. The Raptor was, however, named best "Full-size Pickup Truck". You can check out the corrected press release that Ford just sent out after the jump.



[Source: Ford]

PRESS RELEASE

POWERED BY SVT RAPTOR, FORD F-150 NAMED 2009 'TRUCK OF TEXAS;' FORD WORKS WINS 'OUTSTANDING FEATURE'
  • 2010 Ford F-150, powered by SVT Raptor, captures the "2009 Truck of Texas" title, named by the Texas Auto Writers Association (TAWA), the seventh consecutive award for Ford
  • Ford Work Solutions productivity technology, developed for commercial fleet customers, named "Outstanding Feature"
  • Ford truck lineup also wins "Truck Line of Texas," recognizing its capability, durability

DALLAS, Oct. 19, 2009 – The 2010 Ford F-150, powered by the all-new SVT Raptor, was named 2009 "Truck of Texas" by the Texas Auto Writers Association (TAWA), the seventh consecutive time a Ford F-Series truck has won the award. Additionally, F-150 SVT Raptor was named best "Full-size Pickup Truck."

"Winning the Truck of Texas is a distinct honor," said Mark Fields, president, The Americas, Ford Motor Company. "Texans know their trucks, and this award is further proof of why the F-Series remains America's number-one selling pickup. We built F-150 SVT Raptor for truck enthusiasts. And we're gratified it's gaining recognition for both its unequaled off-road performance and confidence-inspiring on-road demeanor."

Ford trucks also took the "Truck Line of Texas," a distinguished honor recognizing the best-in-class capability and durability of Ford's lineup.

Another top honor, "Outstanding Feature," went to Ford Work Solutions, a suite of productivity technologies developed for the commercial truck owner. The system includes an in-dash computer that connects with the home office; Tool Link that keeps track of costly tools and equipment; Cable Lock, which locks up tools in the open truck box; and Crew Chief, a telematics system, giving the fleet manager more control of his/her fleet of vehicles.

Ford F-150 delivers class-leading towing capability of 11,300 pounds and hauling capacity of 3,030 pounds – a combination no other competitor can match.

With the launch of the all-new 2009 model, the truck improved its fuel economy by an average of 8 percent across the entire lineup, thanks to a wide range of engineering enhancements. The fuel economy gains reach as high as 12 percent versus the prior model year on F-150 models equipped with the high-volume three-valve, 5.4-liter V-8 engine. Plus, the F-150's SFE package – which is available on highest-volume XL and XLT series – delivers unsurpassed fuel economy of 15 mpg city and 21 mpg highway.

This summer, Ford introduced the 2010 F-150 SVT Raptor, designed as a purpose-built, high-speed off-road truck ready for adventure. Raptor also is versatile enough to handle the daily commute. To test the capability and durability of Raptor, Ford took a modified pre-production Raptor to the grueling 41st Tecate SCORE Baja 1000 this past November. The early-build Raptor not only survived Baja, it earned a podium finish in its class.

Key enablers to the Raptor's impressive performance are functional design cues and impressive suspension technology. The Raptor is seven inches wider than a base F-150 to make room for the additional suspension components that give Raptor its off-road abilities. The wider stance also gives the truck an aggressive appearance.

Internal triple-bypass shocks by FOX Racing Shox – the first on a production truck – provide position-sensitive damping and extra suspension travel for extreme off-roading and a smooth ride on the road. In addition to the shocks, Raptor has unique cast-aluminum front control arms and SVT-tuned 35-inch BFGoodrich® All-Terrain TA/KO 315/70-17 tires. These components give Raptor 11.2 inches of front suspension travel and 12.1 inches of rear suspension travel.

The F-150 SVT Raptor comes standard with the proven 5.4-liter SOHC V-8 engine that produces up to 320 horsepower and 390 ft.-lb. of torque. In early 2010 customers will have the option of an even more powerful new 6.2-liter V-8 engine.

Customer anticipation has been extremely high, with 3,000 orders already received for the 5.4-liter F-150 SVT Raptor. In fact, initial dealer orders have the Dearborn Truck Plant building Raptors at maximum capacity, reflecting the strong demand for the first-ever factory high-speed off-road truck.

Starting price for the F-150 SVT Raptor is $38,995 including destination and delivery charges.

In total, Ford won eight of 18 awards, including Lincoln MKX as "Mid-size CUV," Ford Flex as "Full-size CUV," and Ford F-150 King Ranch as "Luxury Pick-up Truck," and Ford Expedition as "Full-size SUV."



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      • 5 Years Ago
      If I lived in a dry climate I'd probably have one of these and take it off-road too.

      Makes sense to have one of these in Texas/southwest.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @CW, it really depends on your definition of off-roading, if you mean a couple of sand dunes (with not too much inclination angles) then yeah, Raptor is a fast off-roader. BUT what really Raptor is a a jacked up F150 with a modified suspension and a powerful engine, this thing doesn't really have the transmission of Terrain response system of a Grand Cherokee or Land Rover. Believe me, it a lot easier to make a pickup truck that goes fast over a fairly flat desert than to make a real off-roader that can actually climb boulders, wanna go fast on a desert just get a dune buggy. Again, Raptor is a good truck for what it is BUT saying that this is better than Hummer H1 is just showing that you know jack about REAL 4x4s. Again, F150 Raptor inclination angle is around 31 degrees and departure around 23, which is rather pathetic for a so called off-roader with 11.5 ground clearance. Compare that to over 60 degree inclination angle of Hummer H1 or 40 degree of Jeep Wrangler and you get the picture. Just stating facts. Just too much hype over a rather average product (considering it's price).
        • 5 Years Ago
        Crapping on this because it sucks as a rock crawler makes about as much sense as crapping on Wranglers because they suck in the slalom.


      • 5 Years Ago
      Hmmm...I guess make that a "double-pwn"! :
      • 5 Years Ago
      Not the award I would have paid for.....

      And the people are right...as a *true* off-roader....this ZR2 F-150 fails hard. As was said above, the terrible;e approach and departure angles really hinder any notable off-road performance. Driving over sand dunes is not a feat.....

      But, that won't stop the blind cheerleaders from thumping their chests for the JC Whitney special.
        • 5 Years Ago
        ^^^^^

        You shouldn't talk to yourself.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yes, there are places where the trail has only been opened enough to get through normal width vehicles and the H1 won't fit. But that doesn't mean it's "too wide". Natural terrain doesn't have a preference for vehicles of a certain width. The H1 needs its extra width to get some stability for the extra jacked up body giving the ground clearance it has which is very, very useful on uneven terrain.

        Why is a guy who brags about bouldering talking about warranties? The best warranty in the biz isn't going to save you when you go bouldering. Even in a Jeep. You will break stuff often.

        Say... if there are bypasses around all the severe obstacles already, then how do you know the H1 people are bypassing them? Unless you see it actually being done, it seems like it's more your anger towards H1s (ridiculously common among Jeepers for some dumb reason) talking there.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Exactly my point, people get excited over this truck going fast on sand dunes, give me a pickup truck and I'll upgrade the suspension, axles, give it off-road tires and it will go fast on sand. But to make a car capable of conquering real rough terrain such as boulders, rocks, steep inclines/declines takes some serious hardware and technology. And thats where Raptor fails.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Gloria, tell me which of the modern cars you consider off-road capable? Of course H1 with it's size can't fit everywhere (it actually works as an advantage and disadvantage at the same time) but on the other hand which other car can climb steep inclinations like H1? Name me an off-roader and I'll name you list of problems I have seen. I know H1 is not perfect but car can take extreme abuse and thats a fact.

        On the warranty issue. Just like with street racing, same thing with offroading, warranties are pretty much meaningless once you abuse the car and it is clearly visible driver is at fault, your warranty is as good as useless. And how can you be so sure that Raptor will be so reliable? Even Jeep with years and years of 4x4 experience has quality issues, I don't believe Ford will get everything exactly right on the first try either. You think that Ford dealership will replace a broken axle or ripped up suspension without any questions?

        As someone already mentioned in this thread, I guess the problem with all of this is that there are different definitions of offroading, to some driving fast through desert is offroading, to some driving on boulders is offroading, but whats the best all purpose off-roader? I mean, sure a Jeep Wrangler won't be able to go as fast through desert as a Raptor but on the other hand Raptor will not even be able to climb high angled inclinations like Wrangler will do. But I guess in this day and age of modern so called SUVs and CUVs people don't even know what offroading means.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Pwnd.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Again...cutting through all of the cheerleading BS......

        For did NOTHING special here. The put some shiny shocks, fender flares, and BFG tires (oh sorry...special SVT Tuned tires) on an F-150 all while making it look hideous in the process.

        This truck is nothing more than what GM did with the ZR2 S-10/Sonoma.

        And to cheerlead about the fact that Ford built a truck that can drive on some sand.......and stay running while doing it....is insane. Do we hear Open cheerleading about the fact that a 1964 Kadett can cross Africa IN STOCK FORM roughly 43 years AFTER it was built?

        The only "WORK" that went into this so-called "truck" was thumbing through the JC Whitney catalog and then bolting on the parts.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I don't think making a trophy-style truck is easy. And I think Ford has done a very good job, about as good as can be done with leafs (which are pretty lousy on jounce, which is a bad thing at high speeds).
        • 5 Years Ago
        It isn't a rock crawler, nor is it marketed as such so no one cares about approach and departure. Let's not forget it is also practical. I live in the Texas Hill Country, this setup is damn near perfect for the roads (read: craters in limestone rock that are 2x2ft round one of top of each other) or if you own a ranch out here and only can afford one vehicle, this truck is great for this terrain. The offroad capabilities way exceed what I find attractive about it anyways, but the point is it's practical, damn capable, durable, and relatively cheap.

        And to piss you off Matt, on top of it all... It's a Ford.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ello, it is quite obvious that you have never done any actual rockcrawling.

        How do I know, you ask?? Well, the first really BIG clue, is that you think the Hummer H1 is the ultimate off-road vehicle.

        Let me tell you about your fabulous H1, and off-roading. First off, it is too long and wide. Next it has tiny little axles, that like to break when doing the extreme stuff.

        How do I know that, you ask?? Well, considering that we built an extreme rockcrawler, and participated in rockcrawling, and off-roading for a couple of decades, has given me just a bit of insight into what works, and what doesn't. One of the most famous trails in AZ, is Woodpecker. We would lead the Woodpecker run, for the AZ State 4wheeling Jamboree. You could always tell when the Hummer club had run the trail.................... as it would be "paved." What do I mean by "paved?" Why thank you for asking. It means that they built up rock ramps at the entrance and exit of every semi-major obstacle, and bypassed all of the major ones (there are always bypasses around the severe obstacles).

        How do I know that they break axles when used hard?? All you have to do, is know the people who make mods and off-road accessories for them. They are more than happy to tell you what all goes wrong with them.

        As for taking a $22K F150, and building a Raptor for far less..................... well, lets just say that this arguement is older than the hills, and anyone who uses it is an idiot. You can take that $22K F150, modify it to be better than the Raptor (gee, big surprise when you don't have to worry about making it durable enough to put a warranty on it), for less than the $38K price of the Raptor. Well, guess what?? I can take a $5K ____________ (insert cheap used 4wd vehicle), and modify it to be far better than your $22K+mods F150, for far less than $22K.

        See how that works??

        Lets try it another way. Take an loaded F150 XLT or Lariat as your base, and make it better than the Raptor, and just as reliable............... so much so, that you will offer a full warranty on it. As I know how much all this stuff costs, lets just say that you will spend FAR MORE than $38K doing so.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ello, there is no mass manufactured vehicle that is great at, or even real good at, all forms of off-roading. Not one. Every single one made, is a compromise. Every compromise means that it will be better at one thing or another.

        The only truly capable off-roaders, are the ones that we build in our garages. The ones that do not have to carry a warranty............ that do not have to meet EPA regs............ that do not have to meet safety regs............. that do not have to meet government crash regs.

        When you have to abide by all of the above, you will get the compromises that we are talking about.

        A Jeep Wrangler, out of the box, is not a great off-roader either. It sits too low. The transfercase crossmember will catch on everything. The Dana 30 rear will not hold up to large tires and lockers (yes I understand you can get a Rubicon with 44's). The air actuated 4wd system will get leaks and fail to work. All of this, on top of the fact that it has no actual wheel travel, and is too short to be stable in fast running. A Wrangler is a decent off-roader, stock, because it is small.............. and can manuver.

        Like I said, compromises.

        When you build an off-road vehicle, you need to decide what type of wheeling you will be building for, then build the vehicle to the best of your ability, to do that type of wheeling. If you are real clever and creative, you may even build one that is very good at various types of wheeling. If you want to do this off of a new vehicle, or relatively new vehicle, you look at the basic platform of the vehicle, and decide if the "bones" are good enough to build off of. You then set about modifying almost every aspect of said vehicle.

        Great approach and departure angles don't mean squat, if your breakover angle sucks........... just like it means nothing if you have a big ol transfercase crossmember that you keep getting hung up on. What a great wheeler needs, is to keep the tires on the ground, and turning............. in its most basic. Chances are real good that all of the electronic nannies in the world, do not a good off-roader make............... and it is just more to go wrong when you are out in the sticks.

        BTW, if anyone thinks that building a high speed Baja type truck, is nothing.............. then they have never spent any time looking at high speed Baja type trucks, or driving like them. It is no LESS demanding than rockcrawling............. just different, with different demands. That the Raptor can run at those types of speeds, without self destructing, or beating the driver to death, is evidence of the work that went into that vehicle. To downplay that accomplishment, in a stock/warrantied vehicle, is to let bias get in the way of logic.

        • 5 Years Ago
        Look at me I'm a blind cheerleader thumping my chest!
        Matt is right but I refuse to listen! - *Psyche*
        Blah Blah Blah...


        But all joking aside, Matt, shut up. Nobody likes you. At all......
        • 5 Years Ago
        @akboss, the best off-road car that I have ever seen was Hummer H1, this thing could have climbed over anything. I wouldn't call Hummer H1 a simple machine, far from it. Another example, Mitsubishi Pajero (the new one not sold in USA), again, sophisticated AWD system and transmission setup, very capable offroader with proper tires (higher approach/departure/rollover angles with over an inch lower ground clearance than the Raptor). My objective is to not totally down the Raptor but to tell the world that Raptor is not such a hardcore offroader as many think it is.

        I know that Raptor will be more than capable to most of its buyers but some people here think that this is the best off-roader in history. Again, for the last time, it will go fast on sand dunes, sand dunes do not equal hardcore offroader. Give me a base F150 pickup at $22K, upgrade the suspension and axles, give it offroad tires and you'll save a lot of money over a $38K Raptor. And since Ford gives only a 3 year warranty, it's not a big deal, the huge savings will offset it anyway. Besides, this is Fords first attempt at such a truck, it's unproven, I am more than sure there will be a few problems with this type of truck.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Gloria, by any means, again, I am not trying to totally downplay the Raptor, it's just that most people here think that it is the greatest off-roader ever. The secret to the Raptor is pretty much the suspension setup (which wasn't developed by Ford) which was mentioned in one of the youtube videos, Raptors suspension alone costs $7000. There really is nothing magical here. Fords first attempt at hill descend control?!? This stuff has been in other 4x4s for few years now, even a freaking BMW X5 has it these days. It doesn't have anything revolutionary, it just has a proven aftermarket parts authorized by Ford. And they were able to warranty the car because they are not planning to really mass produce Raptors, last time I read was around 1500 per year so even if it will be a technological flop, the Raptors PR will help Ford elevate to new heights, small price to pay for great marketing, generating noise around company.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Overall width of the Hummer H1 - 86.5 inches.
        Overall width of the ZR2 F-150 - 86.3 inches.
        But yeah....the Hummer H1 is too wide...

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        Overall length of the Hummer H1 - 184.5 inches
        Overall length of the ZR2 F-150 - 220.9
        But yeah...the Hummer H1 is too long

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        By blindly praising this imitation off-roader from Ford while panning the H1 is like saying that a McDonalds hamburger is better than a hamburger made by Gordon Ramsay because you can get it all the time for a good price.

        On a side note, I had the unfortunate experience of seeing a ZR2 F-150 on the road today (yes...on the road....not off the road). My God........this "truck" is hideous. Not 2011 Super Doodie hideous......but it ranks as the second most ugly truck ever come from Ford.
      • 5 Years Ago
      ************News Flash!!************

      Matt doesn't like it!!
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is the Wrangler of Pick Up Trucks.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @John:

        Actually, the Dodge Ram Power Wagon comes from the showroom floor extremely off-road ready. However these are two different kinds of off-road and that is what this argument has turned into.

        The Raptor is great for going fast in the Desert/Baja, whereas the Power Wagon is great for climbling over obstacles.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ ello, you can put your Jeep p3n0r back in your pants; this Ford and Jeep don't belong in the same conversation.
        Ford has no purpose-built trucks to go travel the Rubicon and Jeep has nothing to compete with this:
        "Ford's 2010 F-150 SVT Raptor is a purpose-built, high-speed off-road truck"

        I cannot believe you didn't turn this into a solid axle vs. IFS argument too. :P
        • 5 Years Ago
        Actually Jeep Wrangler is a much more capable off-roader than the Raptor. Sure the Raptor an go fast on a desert but this thing is not meant for steep inclines or boulders, just doesn't have the approach/departure angles to do it, also, it really doesn't have any sophisticated 4x4 systems found in Grand Cherokee, Land Rovers, or even Hummer H2. I mean, I like the Raptor but this is not a Hummer H1 replacement, not even close.
        • 5 Years Ago
        C.W:
        This thing isn't great at towing either.

        I'm not quite sure what you're getting at or why you're getting up modded for it.

        The H1 will best this thing at nearly everything, not just bouldering. Of course, the H1 is a lot more expensive (if you can get it at all anymore).

        ello (as big a jerk as he is being) is also correct that the sophisticated 4WD systems found in other vehicles are a much better match for traveling over sand than this things' suspension is. You'd better have your sand ladders ready for this thing, let's put it that way.

        This truck has polarized a lot of people into making some pretty asinine arguments, both for and against. Maybe Ford is onto something.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ ello

        Im sure Ford wasn't trying to make a Wrangler competitor or H1 replacement or Land Rover eater or what have you, but there IS NO OTHER *PICK UP* out there that is this off-road ready from the showroom, unless Jeep decides to make a Rubicon JT or Gladiator.....and even then the Jeep would be for scaling boulders, not running the Baja 1000 which the Raptor is more suited to, you have to consider the purpose of each vehicle,, otherwise its like you trying to compare an H1 to a Corolla......
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ ello...

        you're right... it's not an H1 replacement... it exceeds the H1 in so many ways it's not even worth having the discussion.
        while not as small and nimle as the Wrangler (which i love), it blows away any Chrysler/Jeep vehicle or their 'sophisticated' 4x4 systems. you would be surprised how few actually participate in any 'rock crawling' as opposed to off-road driving, or semi-off road driving... with towing... so it sort of takes the 'approach and departure angle' advantage away from the Wrangler...
        but you're right if you plan on crawling up boulders on your weekends. Wrangler would be the way to go.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @C.W.
        "..you're right... it's not an H1 replacement... it exceeds the H1 in so many ways it's not even worth having the discussion..."

        You know what an H1 is right?!? We're not talking about H2-3, this would be the consumer version of the original Humvee. So you think this Ford is ready to take on the harsh environments of the middle east?!?! LOL!!
      gadvrules9000
      • 5 Years Ago
      I'm surprised "Thing 1" and "Thing 2" hasn't commented yet... (Lets hope they don't...)

      Good choice, love the truck.
        gadvrules9000
        • 5 Years Ago
        @gadvrules9000
        Oh wait, "Thing 1" made his presence.... NOOOOOOOOOOO

        But hey, Brian hasn't yet.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @gadvrules9000
        You would.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @gadvrules9000
        "Thing 1" .........

        I like that!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Did I hear somebody say something abotu this thing not being a crawler?

      http://www.raptoroffroad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322

      Bah, what do I know........
        • 5 Years Ago
        I dunno, that seems pretty good for a long-wheelbase vehicle to me. I suspect it didn't make it up the incline in that 3rd pic though.
        • 5 Years Ago
        LS2....

        I bet it did :)

        Watch at 2:30
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtxiMGA8QRQ
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yeah I saw the pictures, the boulders look rather not steep, fairly flat, still not impressed with it, what would be more impressive is going over the same boulders in icy conditions (snow) then we would see the true AWD technology. Wanna see real rock crawling, steep inclinations?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9mtU-1mm9E

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwi9FE-rTI

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_1z8JSE63A

        Raptor just can not do that due to low approach/departure angles and it just doesn't have the proper hardware for it (no, offroad suspension and tires are not everything).
        • 5 Years Ago
        How is the Raptor even being compared to an H1? And if for some reason it is, then even to the blind idiot it offers more. It can climb rocks, actually drive fast, costs half as much, be able to turn corners, fit on narrow trails, have a comfortable cabin, offer decent highway power, have a functional truck bed, huge parts supply market....seriously, an H1?
      • 5 Years Ago
      That's like saying the Prius won the "Toyota eco-lovers car of the year" award... or that the vegetarian association named vegetables the food of the year.

      Still a pretty kickass pickup though.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Well, Ford happens to make great trucks. (I admit it, I am Ford-fan but still...) Even among those trucks Raptor is pure awesomeness. Plus it perfectly fits Texas environment.

        Now compare that with other polls/awards where the "trucks" category has like 10 contestants out of which 2-3 are actually trucks.
      • 5 Years Ago
      @ Gloria, if you go and RESEARCH the Wrangler as it is now, you will find your entire Wrangler paragraph is full of false information, if you're going to act like you know something, get the facts straight.

      The Wrangler hasn't used an air actuated system since 1995, and even then it was a reliable system that dates back to the CJs in the 70s using Quadratrac. The Dana 30 is the FRONT Axle used in every Wrangler and late CJs with few problems. The infamous rear end was the Dana35 that was dropped after 2007 for a now standard Dana 44.

      Jeeps have never had a real articulation problem except in the 90s when they had swaybars installed after the rollover scare of the 80s, and that swaybar is easily removed. The Wrangler has used flexy coil springs since 1997 and now has more articulation than ANY production 4x4 on the market.

      It is a good offroader because it IS a good offroader, not because "it is small".

      For a man who claims to have built a rock crawler, you sure don't know much about the Wrangler past 1995.
        • 5 Years Ago
        They use a Dana 44 as stock now? Sweet. I'm pretty sure if you walked into a dealership and picked up a new regular-wheelbase Rubicon, most driver's skill would cut out before the vehicle. And if you get someone that KNOWS how to crawl/off-road, that little truck would continue to impress.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wheres my gold chain and my boxed set of 'The Dukes of Hazard'? That thing already looks dated.
      • 5 Years Ago
      "...it's a full-size thing..."

      You can say that again. You would struggle to drive this thing in Europe.

      http://www.carnorama.com
        • 5 Years Ago
        oh how i would love to struggle
        *drools*
        (:o[ _ _ ___ ___
        • 5 Years Ago
        Absolutely! It's so wide it needs the large truck indicator lights!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Hardly anyone here takes Matt's rants seriously.
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