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We knew when General Motors opened up the CTS-V Challenge to any and all Caddy killers the response would be impressive, and according to Cadillac spokesman Nick Twork, it's been just that.

Around 120 people applied for a chance to take on Bob Lutz in the CTS-V sedan later this month, but that doesn't mean we'll be seeing dozens of would-be contenders lining the Monticello Motor Club in New York on October 29. Twork told InsideLine that his team is currently whittling down the applicants based on the rules (an unmodified sedan similar in capabilities to the CTS-V) and while "about three-quarters of them were in the spirit of the contest... there were some like, 'I've got a Porsche GT3 RS blah, blah, blah.'"

We should expect between five and ten participants in total, and just in case, John Heinricy, pro racer and former GM engineer, will be on hand to, "be used at the discretion of Mr. Lutz." Read: if you're a professional racer, you're going to be tangling with someone of similar caliber.

All the entrants should be picked out by tomorrow, so if you applied for a chance to take on Lutz (or more likely, Heinricy), expect a confirmation (or denial) within the next few days.



[Source: InsideLine]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      This should be a lot of fun.
      I can't wait to see the results.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Be interesting if they allow a G8 into the mix hehe.
      Good marketing and for all those saying its horrible um.. your commenting on it hence it got your attention 'nuff said! :)
      • 5 Years Ago
      Anyone who has seen what John Heinricy can do (eg: the runoffs) knows the deck is already stacked for GM. Better bring professional racing champions to go against him.
      • 5 Years Ago
      John
      Just take a Cobalt SS turbo 4 door with the 280 HP/320 FT LB factory Stage 1 upgrade on it and kick the crap out of them. Now that would be entertaining
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is great. What do those japanese pu$$-boys do? Some practically octogenarian US-American putting up a challenge like this.

      In 50 years we'll have driveling prius ricers.

      Lutz is to be hailed!
      • 5 Years Ago
      The CTS-V is awesome; the car sells itself. Fleet it out to the press and let the product do the talking. Do not stack the cards in your own favor spending my money willy-nilly on what will go down as an overtly biased attention grab.

      Until every red cent is paid back, GM shouldn't be pulling stunts like this.
        • 5 Years Ago
        i can see your point, but really any auto journalist worth mentioning has already driven the CTS-V. Obviously this is drawing attention, just look at the numbers of posts made. This is definately publicity that will benefit GM, and in turn you.

        Stunts are marketing, marketing helps you product sell. I think we should be thankful that GM is taking a new approach. Also, arent you glad that they have product where they not only compete but excel? I just returned from a joint training session, where the Toyota product trainer said bluntly "your equinox is a home run!"

        The CTS-V probably only has one or two serious contenders, so great, lets challenge them all. Maybe after this every one will be inspired to come back with even better product.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Boy, this thread really exploded! Being a Ford fan, I can appreciate all the EcoBoost support but come on guys, you're really making yourselves look ridiculous.
      As for the race, I agree that the original statement made was pretty clear that Mr. Lutz would be driving, so, that is how it should be carried out. He should have thought about about the possibility that his presence behind the wheel of the CTS-V might be a limiting factor in the car's success in the race, BEFORE he shot his mouth off.
      That said, as I've said before, GM will make damn sure any and all details will be covered to maximize the possibility of their success on race day. Guaranteed, the car that participates while being technically stock, will be far from what you might pull off a dealer's lot. Many ways of preparing a car, that won't break any of the basic rules of the competition.
      And finally, I gotta say that I believe the CTS-V to be one of the best sport sedans in the world. Possibly the quickest and fastest on most any track. So, why do I need to have that fact beaten into our brains over and over? I have yet to read a single test or article on the car that wasn't glowing. I have yet to see anything in writing that states the car has lost ANY performance competition. So why can't we simply drop it, and let the car prove itself in the market place where it counts?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Holy nice interior batman!
      • 5 Years Ago
      I wonder if Brabus tuned cars would be allowed.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Or M... or Hamann.... I would imagine an M5 may stand a bit of a chance (even though it's down a bit on power from the V.)
      Lar7789789
      • 5 Years Ago
      see this is what I don't get about GM, it seems like they are desperate for attention, or they are trying to hype the car up, but in a weird way. I mean, just let the car speak for itself, now that Bob lutz or ( whatever his name ) is making this a hyped up advertising theme, I mean I hope they get their asses kicked by someone.

      I mean the only reason why there is a 6.2 liter supercharged engine in a Cadillac is beause of the cars like BMW and Mercedes constantly stepping up the bar with their cars....

      back in the old days you bought a Cadillac because it rode like a dream and the inside was so luxurious and comfortable that you could live in it.

      I hope GM loses this bet, contest whatever it is and has it bite them in the ass .... this is stupid
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Lar7789789
        What's it like having absolutely no imagination?
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Lar7789789
        Just to educate you a little bit... the Big3 (especially at the time) started the whole family/performance category with their muscle cars. They stuck big powerful engines, along with other performance upgrades into family cars... those became known as the muscle cars :) Now not every muscle car was a coupe, it just turns out that coupes are better looking and generally more desirable than "pedestrian" looking sedans... thus most famous muscle cars have two doors. But the idea of turning regular rides into hot-rods is an idea cooked up by the Detroit automakers, and then sharpened by the Europeans.
        With that aside, I love all uber-performance sedans. The CTS-V and M5 most of all, mostly because they lean more towards performance with their manual gearbox choices and sharper handling than the other more luxurious variants (like the XKR or E63). However, the CTS-V is the current performance champ... both acceleration and handling!
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Lar7789789
        @Lar

        You seem to be pretty clueless. GM has made a world class car and it is impressive to drive.

        As an owner of the previous generation CTS-V I can tell you it still rides like you would expect a Cadillac.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I'm sad to see my taxes going toward this kind of stunt.

      I have a strong feeling there are some people in Congress who may feel the same way...

      Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kirkpartick (D) Michigan's 13th District
      http://kilpatrick.house.gov/index2.aspx

      Senator Carl Levin (D) Michigan
      http://levin.senate.gov/

      Senator Debbie Stabenow (D) Michigan
      http://stabenow.senate.gov/
        • 5 Years Ago
        It's called marketing IDIOT. Quit your whining. Bear Sterns & Lehman Bros. cost 100 x more, and all you got to show for them, is thousands of pink slips and unemployment claims. Don't be stupid all your life, pull yer head out of yer arse.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Kilpatrick???

        Stabenow???

        Levin???

        The mom of a crook, the useless Senator that posed next to a sign that said "Dangerously Incompetent" and Levin who would tell you exactly where to shove your sentiment.

        Autoblog ought to give up on comments, my goodness the internet is just an opportunity for fools to prove how stupid they really are.
      • 5 Years Ago
      should be a fun time for all. i really like this car a lot, but i still do feel that the german competition are better cars overall, not just in performance aspects. GM still hasn't gotten their material quality up to par.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Lucky for us, I think we'll see the truth (or falsehood) in short order.

        My dream lineup for this contest:

        Audi RS4 & S6
        BMW M3 & M5
        Mercedes AMG E63
        Porsche Panamera

        And for laughs (because somebody needs to come in dead last):

        Dodge Charger / Chrysler 300
        Ford SHO Taurus
        • 5 Years Ago
        Bugatti Galibier
        • 5 Years Ago
        Are you some kind of expert to make that judgment? LOL
        • 5 Years Ago
        @John H.

        you dont know anything... please shut it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "should be a fun time for all. i really like this car a lot, but i still do feel that the german competition are better cars overall, not just in performance aspects. GM still hasn't gotten their material quality up to par."

        I think you're right, Xa (above quote). Mercedes and BMW are a touch better in regards to quality - but the price certainly reflects it - and far more than justified.. Cadillac just doesn't have the same performance image that Mercedes has with their AMG cars or BMW has with their M cars.. Otherwise, the price would be much closer (higher priced CTS-V). But GM/Cadillac certainly has the Germans attention. The know-how is there - and when the money finds it's way back into their pockets, the quality, while not far off, will be just as high...

        Sal Collaziano
        http://www.cadillacowners.com
        • 5 Years Ago
        JOHN, you are a disgrace to people named 'John'.

        It's true, the Taurus and the Charger are not meant to compete with the CTS-V. It's interesting you didn't mention the Lincoln MK-S instead of the Taurus. I won't say the MK-S equals the Cadillac in terms of performance (it does not), but in terms of fit and finish and technology and comfort (you know, the stuff Cadillac is founded on) I think you'll find the Taurus and the Lincoln both outshine it.

        Here's another idea -- if you drag the 300 and the Taurus into it, then I'll also dredge up the Impala. How does that sound? I bet it stings.

        While we're bashing American brands, let's also compare the Aveo, the Cobalt and the Malibu. Do I really need to name the Ford counterparts?

        GM currently has three production vehicles to be really proud of: the CTS-V, the ZR-1 and the Camaro V6. They both perform remarkably well (in terms of power and handling) and outperform anything from Ford or Chrysler (...until the EcoBoost V6 makes its way into the Mustang...). Sadly, the CTS-V and the ZR-1 are tremendously expensive to be compared with most other American cars (Viper ACR..cough, cough).
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Yarkouth: No, I'm saying it'd be funny and instructive to show just how far behind the competition both Ford and Chrysler actually are.

        GM is doing this for publicity's sake, and including their crosstown rivals for the sole purpose of publicly humiliating them is a lot of fun. Telling the blue oval and pentastar guys to "bring their best", and watching them get their teeth kicked in by the Germans *and* GM is going to be very satisfying. It also shuts up the blue oval crowd about how Ford wasn't included because they're "too good".
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Yaroukh: Wow, I guess you really are stupid. You need to resort to name-calling because Ford and Chrysler can't compete. How about blaming Ford and Chrysler for not raising their game to at least being halfway competitive in the segment?

        As speed and Sal note, the entire point is that GM can compete, and compete well against the best in the world. The very fact that GM can throw down the gauntlet, the Germans have a legitimate challenger, while Ford and Chrysler can't, speaks volumes toward the actual capability of their car. That's something that *nobody* saw coming a few years ago.

        A couple more years of this and "Standard of the World" might just come back as a legitimate tagline.

        But having to resort to childish name-calling simply because you don't like the fact that Ford and Chrysler haven't been doing the hard work to make a proper, premium sedan when BMW M has been blazing the way for over a decade, that's just ridiculously infantile.
        • 5 Years Ago
        You are confusing "refinement" with quality. They are not the same. For the premium you pay for the germans you expect nicer materials and a certain refinement in the driving experience. However don't confuse refinement with quality, in terms of "quality" (how well built, number of visits for repairs etc) Caddy has had most of the industry beat for some years. Just check the JD Power surveys.
        • 5 Years Ago
        So once again:
        SHO: 365hp, $38k
        CTS-V: 556hp, $58k
        Are you serious?
        • 5 Years Ago
        @John H: Ofcourse I do understand the concept. But this is not the case, asshat...
        1) You are no manufacturer. So stfu about manufacturers and their concepts. You are the dude who puts uncomparable vehicles against each other to proove his bizzare point.
        2) GM did not put their top-notch V8 against tt-V6, because they know it does not proove anything. (Except some basic math related facts, like 556>365, 58.000>38.000, ...)
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Yaroukh:
        He was saying the two others would come so far behind it would be amusing, not that they were needed for the CTS-V to win. It's a well published fact that the Caddy is faster than all the others around the Nurburgring except the (significantly) more expensive Porsche, and the V and the M5 even went head to head at this very track with very similar results, the Caddy being slightly ahead.

        @John:
        And the XFR!
        • 5 Years Ago
        If the 300/Charger SRT-8s came with the Grand Cherokee's AWD they would hold their own around a track, they wouldn't win but they sure wouldn't be humiliated.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @John H.: Let me get this straight: You need to list-in a car that has 200hp less (~40pct) to make sure you won't end in the last spot?
        It is quite sad to see how badly the bail-out has messed with minds od some GM fans. :o[
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Hiimandy1: If you believe this you are quite simple-minded. Read some of his comments...

        @John H.: Now let's put H2 against Raptor in a desert. Or Camaro SS against GT500 in a drag-race. Or let's choose any other category where GM does not produce anything comparable purpose-, power- or price-wise...
        Is this, what you and alikes showcase, the New GM?
        • 5 Years Ago
        My ultimate list,

        BMW M3 Sedan
        M5 Sedan
        AUDI RS6
        Mercedes Benz C63AMG
        Jaguar XFR
        Lexus IS-F

        • 5 Years Ago
        Get the Panamera Turbo. That'll put up a good fight, maybe even beat it?

        I don't know the point of the publicity stunt like this though. If I'm a buyer and I want to buy the M3 or C63 because of brand image/German made, I'll definitely choose either one and not the V. If I don't really care about brand image, this won't be needed to persuade me to buy the car anyway.

        I would think there aren't that many people out there that would really cross-shop the V and the M3/C63. For those, ultimately it would be the money factor that would push the majority of them over to V, as good as its performance is.


        • 5 Years Ago
        @Yarokh: "Crying"? LOL. You start with down this road calling somebody "simple minded", and then with the "are you serious". If you can't put a halfway intelligent answer together, there aren't many other good labels to attribute to you.

        As for "don't compete", yeah, no kidding.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Johny H.:
        Your "can't compete" b/s is ridiculous. That is same b/s as if I said "GM can't not compete in hi-speed off-roading, or building jets". They just _don't_ compete. Is it that hard to understand?
        As for calling one names: First you call me stupid, and now you are _CRYING_ when I responded in a similar way???
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