• Oct 8, 2009
Good news for those of you who happen to own a Toyota or Lexus vehicle sans floormats, as the Japanese automaker has reportedly come up with a solution to the 3.8 million-vehicle recall announced last week. We haven't reviewed the documentation ourselves, but it sounds as if the answer is to zip tie the driver's side floormat to the seat rails.

Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons tells Automotive News that dealers all around the country should have gotten the instructions on the so-called "semipermanent floormat installation process," which means they can continue to sell new and used vehicles with floormats in place.

Plus, dealerships are being instructed to attach a note to the nylon wire-tie instructing dealers and customers to ensure the mats are properly affixed. The warning also notes that owners should never stack multiple mats on top of one another(!). Apparently, this bit of discount MacGyvery satisfies the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If you own one of the recalled models, perhaps it's time to visit your dealership to get the fix taken care of.

[Source: Automotive News - sub. req'd]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Zip-Tie? That is so ghetto of Toyota, I'm surprised. DO they suggest duct tape for loose tail lights too?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Att : Zip - I believe the Ford Explorer / Firestone saga is still being played out in court today because of the notorious rollovers that i believe killed approx 279 people.

      Ford blames Firestone for faulty tires while Firestone blames Ford for a faulty designed vehicle.

      279 people ... that is alot of deaths

      Att : Moon Rover - Don't forget to move out of the way of a tumbling Explorer or a exploding Chevrolet (fuel tanks, crashes from behind - ring a bell) ... HA, HA, HA !!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Well at least they came up with a solution. I hope it works and it seems like it should. Maybe a higher gas pedal would help but just think if the cars had those gas pedals like on Infiniti's and BMWs that don't hang from the console but have a base on the ground. I don't think it would slip with those.....at least not in our FX35 our mats don't slip and it's base is on the ground. Maybe they should think of that......
      • 5 Years Ago
      Att : Stevo - How is Toyota's semi-permanet solution ridiculous ??

      Truth be told ... it is not !!

      Infact, the solution is actually quite intuitive and no-doubt will solve the problem that i believe is mostly customer (and dealership) related anyway by taking to time to ensure the mats are correctly installed.



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        • 5 Years Ago
        It is ridiculous because a floormat needs to be removable, that is why whoever came up with the little hook is a genius. The problem here was that the little hook in the Toyotas was not doing its job! So their "solution" is to put a zip-tie on?!? That is bogus!
      • 5 Years Ago
      What a fricking joke and not surprised at all in the so called fix and all you riceballs coming up with the excuses for TOY ota.

      Just wait that now the mat is tied to the seat when the seat is either moved forward also mat moves, jamming the mat worse under the gas pedal or trying to move seat backward but the weight of legs on the mat prevents the seat from moving back.

      I love it, let's make up "semipermanent" yea new ricer word and what is funny the japs knowing what the fix is has has raised the prices of tie wraps by 300% :-)

      Imagine some wazer who cannot even check tire pressure trying to get those mats out to clean them as they just puked on them.

      Hey why not blame this on GM, UAW, or your grandmother .
      • 5 Years Ago
      You mean there are Toyota drivers who actually press the pedal to the floor?
        • 5 Years Ago
        I frequently do in my Supra Turbo and GS430! So yeah...there are a few of us out there!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Zip tie??? wow talk about a DIY project..is there such thing has a Lexus zip tie?
      • 5 Years Ago
      This problem can happen in about 50% of the vehicles I've driven, not just Toyotas. People are usually careless with their floormats and they obstruct pedal travel with them because they're no where they're supposed to be. This is being completely blown out of proportion and Toyota has no obligation to take corrective action, only the drivers of the vehicles.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The fact that it CAN happen in lots of other vehicles but DOESN'T pretty much tells the story: Toyota's doing something others aren't to cause this. Be it pedal design, mat design, or some kind of engine control issue, there's a reason somewhere behind why so many more Toyota built vehicles have the issue than other cars. Afterall, I see plently of non-Toyota vehicles at car washes and plenty of non-Toyota drivers buying after market floor mats, yet the feds are getting a large number complaints only about Toyotas. Toyota definitely has a responsibility to get to the bottom of this and fix it.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I dont get it, why cant they just replace the gas pedal with one that has a little more ground clearance then the present ones, its a better solution than this cheap 'zip-tie' solution.

      And then when you visit the car wash, they can't even get the mat out and clean it properly... wow.
        • 5 Years Ago
        It's the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

        A 2cent fix or a $7 dollar fix!!!!!!!!!!

        If this would have happened to GM, Ford or Chrysler and they proposed that kind of a fix, the headlines would not fit on the front page.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Jared

        LOL!! I hope you're kidding... ;-)
      • 5 Years Ago
      Note to Toyota: It's the damn gas pedal design more than the mat!
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yeah in the ES it's kind of a problem, although frankly with most of their other models the pedal is no different than 99% of the cars on the road. And if you google for people getting their floor mats stuck on the accelerator you'd see people with all kinds of cars get it. Toyota just went and recalled all their cars so they could put a sticker there telling people not to be idiots, since the zip tie crap is obviously just a temporary thing unless you plan on never taking your floor mats out for cleaning ever.
        But the stupid wedge shaped accelerator should definitely go. Then again it's pretty hard to work the floor mat far enough up even the wedge accelerator unless you've been stacking floormats.
      • 5 Years Ago
      i wouldn't put it past lexus owners to have to go to a dealership for a ziptie fix, rather than figure it out for themselves. Their service package should include diaper changes as well.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I second that LOL and add a LMFAO!!!
        • 5 Years Ago
        Not everyone who owns a Lexus is old. I have a GS430...V8 rear-wheel-drive sports sedan that is far from the ordinary ES or RX. The car has been perfect and has had nothing other than regular oil changes. I admit that overall Lexus builds vanilla cars...but that is what the masses want. At least they have a few fun cars...SC, IS-F, GS
        • 5 Years Ago
        +1
        LOL!!
      • 5 Years Ago
      So do Toyota's not have the little peg sewn onto the carpet that runs through the mat, hold it in place while still making it fairly easy to remove?

      I would think it would be too hard to install post product either. They would have to replace the mat, but then they should have thought about that before hand. As is, this is an absolutely ridiculous fix. Actually, it isn't a fix at all, it's entirely avoiding the point. How is an unmovable floor mat any different from no floor mat at all? The whole point of a floor mat is so that you can take it out and clean it.

      I hope Toyota is giving owners a lifetime supply of zip ties anyway.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yes Toyotas/Lexus vehicles have the peg in the floor to hold the drivers mat in place. My family has owned Toyotas for 15 years without this problem. According to Toyota, the mat that was in the car involved in the accident had an improper mat put in by the dealer.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Toyota wouldn't be accepting liability if there wasn't a real problem.
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