VIDEO: Toyota FT-86 Concept finds its way into Gran Turismo 5
Toyota FT-86 concept – Click above to watch video after the jump
That didn't take long. Hot on the heels of the Toyota FT-86 Concept's reveal, we've got videographic proof that ToMoCo's new boxer-powered 2+2 is bound for the virtual circuits of Gran Turismo 5.
Make the jump to see a darkened shot of the C-4S flat-four underhood, followed by the FT-86 romping through some European backroads, running a street circuit and then sliding sideways at Tsukuba with its predecessor and inspiration, the original Toyota AE86 Corolla.
Gallery: Toyota FT-86 Concept
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vf34wrx 12:40PM (10/06/2009)
But is that the EJ20 w/twin scroll turbo? Or is it equipped with turbo at all?
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vf34wrx 12:46PM (10/06/2009)
My hope for this car:
- Lightweight (3000lbs or less)
- EJ20 w/twin scroll turbo (JDM WRX engine)
- Limited slip diff (option is OK as long as they offer it)
- near 50/50 balance
- Short throw 6-speed manual ala S2000 or 6-speed DSG as option w/paddle shifter
- HIDs w/LED running lights
- Good brakes
- Stiff chassis, decent stock suspension bits
Everything else can pretty much be taken care of by after market parts.
BoxerFanatic 1:30PM (10/06/2009)
There are rumors that this is an "FJ20" not an EJ series engine at all...
The rumors are that the FJ might be derived from the EZ series H6 block, with cylinders lopped off. The EZ series has thinner block walls, and a smaller cylinder pitch (shorter distance between adjacent bore centerlines.)
But it is also rumored to have all of the features of the EZ series. A timing chain, rather than a belt, AVCS and AVLS valve timing and lift control on both intake and exhaust cams, and possibly be fitted with Toyota's DS4 (IIRC) Direct Fuel Injection system.
But the rumors don't specify a turbo, and the original horsepower targets for this car, of about 100hp/liter or a tad bit more... don't suggest a turbo.
Even if it were to gain one, chances are, it would adopt the Diesel boxer, and '10 Legacy's layout of having the turbo mounted low in front of the crankshaft accessory drive pulley, not high behind the right bank of cylinders, and I would expect much more than 200hp out of such an engine.
This may not be a direct lateral move from a 2010 WRX, nor even an EJ25 non-turbo Impreza.
I guess we'll find out what rumors are true, and what are not... when the details are revealed officially.
hashiryu 2:21PM (10/06/2009)
200hp NA 2.0 boxer. Even if it would be difficult to turbo, how hard or expensive would it be to drop an sti 2.5 in there, turbos and all? Child's play
Temple 2:26PM (10/06/2009)
The car should easily weigh much less then 3,000lbs. The Scion tC weighs 2,900lbs, and this car is much much smaller (only 4" longer then a MX-5) and has a smaller engine.
vf34wrx 2:29PM (10/06/2009)
EJ25 swap may or may not be possible, we'll just have to see how it's mounted, though I do hope it is (finger crossed).
One complaint I do have for the '10 WRX, STi, or even the Legacy is the shifter - it's vague and feels disconnected, hopefully whatever tranny they use will address that.
Sal Collaziano 3:55PM (10/06/2009)
In regards to turbo, I bet we'll see one a year or two after the initial model.. With turbo becoming so popular due to smaller engines, I doubt they haven't seriously considered it... One way or another, I see this becoming a serious enthusiast sports car.. If the Genesis Coupe is drawing so much attention, I don't see how this wouldn't...
Sal Collaziano
http://www.ft86.net
neutralgear 4:18PM (10/06/2009)
It will be 160ps not 200.
http://www.7tune.com/086a-target-market-change-power-drop/
Also, I'm not the biggest fan of the styling. If it wasn't supposed to be a new 86 I wouldn't mind, but they should've at least taken a few design cues from the old 86.
naggs 4:20PM (10/06/2009)
its an all new subaru DI 2.0 flat 4
no turbo
expect 160 ish hp at a relatively low rpm
curb weight should be around 2700-2800 lbs
Temple 5:19PM (10/06/2009)
>>It will be 160ps not 200.
http://www.7tune.com/086a-target-market-change-power-drop/
Considering how far that rendering is off, I wouldn't hold any credibility to that rumor.
neutralgear 6:04PM (10/06/2009)
It's not a rumor, it was announced during a press release. Also the picture has nothing to do with the news article as it was an independent rendering much like all the other news regarding project 086a including an unofficial rendering on Autoblog as well.
FT-86.com 8:56AM (10/07/2009)
If you guys are as excited as us about the new FT-86. Please join us for discussion at our new Toyota FT-86 forums at
http://FT-86.com
Hope to see you there!
mbslrm 12:40PM (10/06/2009)
Is this the new way to preview cars now?
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Danimal 12:42PM (10/06/2009)
Haha no kidding.
Danimal 12:42PM (10/06/2009)
This car's styling would have looked GREAT 10 years ago. Directional wheels? Really?? For a Toyota however 10 year old styling is a step forward.
Can't complain about the rumored price or performance, though.
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RG 1:13PM (10/06/2009)
I agree, the wheels are my least favorite part of the car. Luckily for me, hardly any concept wheels make it into production.
The directional, the black painted insert just seems a little too tacky and dated to me.
futurama 1:21PM (10/06/2009)
I must disagree.
It has quite fresh line derived from that FT-HS concept car. and directional wheels are back buddy, but not your old directional style. They make the car look more 'aero' which is becoming ever more important as it contribute quite highly to fuel efficiency of the vehicle design. You can see this trend in many recent concept cars.
BTW, 10 year old design is this.
http://www.capsautosales.ca/cars/1999Lumina.JPG
Shipey 1:26PM (10/06/2009)
At least the wheels aren't three spoke...
RG 1:37PM (10/06/2009)
First off- that Lumina doesn't have directional wheels. Hell, it doesn't even have directional HUBCAPS!
Secondly- you think that directional wheels, which make a car LOOK more aero improves fuel efficiency? Usually if you want to improve efficiency you make the wheels as solid as possible (ie Civic hybrid, Insight, Prius, etc). Airy 5-spokes really don't fit the bill.
Finally- directional wheels dont look bad... until you go to the other side and realize that the wheels look like they are going in the wrong direction. That's what tears it for me.
BoxerFanatic 1:39PM (10/06/2009)
Unless there are two different wheels.
My SVX and my old 93 Probe GT had directional wheels, as in left being mirror image to right.
and that also has it's own caveats... and makes tire rotation interesting, to say the least.
And it looks worse if both wheels on the SAME side of the car go different directions. :D