• Oct 5, 2009

2009 Lexus LS 600h L Pebble Beach Edition - Click above for high-res image gallery

Surprise! Lexus and its parent company, Toyota, are apparently finding that it's not as easy selling $106,000 hybrids as it is for $25,000. The Lexus LS 600h L is certainly an excellent piece of automotive engineering, delivering gobs of horsepower and torque with at least a modicum of efficiency thrown in for good measure.

Still, sales of the LS range are down over 50%, leading the the Japanese auto giant to place a whopping $10,000 cash incentive on its range-topping hybrid model. Moving down the Lexus lineup a notch will net you a $3,000 incentive on the GS 450h. What's more, Edmunds' Auto Observer reports that the company is throwing another $1,000 at any Lexus sales associate that manages to sell one of its pricey hybrids.

Not into expensive hybrid sedans? How 'bout we move to the opposite end of the fuel-saving market and into the driver's seat of a 2009 Cadillac Escalade Hybrid. Signing on the dotted line for General Motors' top-of-the-line 2Mode hybrid 'ute will cost you from about $73,000 to over $87,000... minus a five-digit discount, of course. Such a deal!



[Source: Auto Observer]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      U gotta be insane to buy ANY hybrid. Do the math...it's simply not cost effective to pay the cost premium vs buying a TDI Jetta or somesuch. Besides, the smug coming out the hybrid tailpipe is enough to choke San Fran...as if.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yes, people who buy a $80,000 Escalade Hybrid or a $110,000 Lexus are worried about the fuel savings of the hybrid. They buy it because of the green image and in the case of the Lexus it's the most expensive. Yes there are people who buy high end vehicles(this goes for M3s and AMGs) just because they cost more than the others.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Would I buy one? Yes. Would I rather have a new 750li or S550? Yes, but it's fractions of a degree of separation here. All three are incredible cars, and you can say it's cliche, but the fact of the matter is that Vegas would have the odds on the LS actually running once in a while.

      The hybrid integration here isn't about how great the fuel economy is in an absolute sense, but that they were able to build a powerful, competent sedan, without WORSENING its fuel economy. Against the S550 and 750li, the LS does offer about a 6 mpg edge in the city, where most people drive most of the time, while dishing out similar performance numbers to the Germans.

      Future iterations of this type of drivetrain will only improve upon this proof-of-concept. To me, it's just another option in the pantheon of tools that automakers will need to draw from to continue offering high-performance vehicles while flying under the EPA's radar. We all want blown V12 engines, but CAFE is going to take them out to the woodshed pretty soon so it's time to get on board. Frankly, if they can rig up a system of tautly-wound rubberbands that get my luxo-barge to speed in a jiffy, that's fine by me.

      I have yet to see an ad where the LS600h drives across a barren monochromatic wasteland, magically turning it to lush greenery as it passes so stop putting words in Toyota's mouth. If they were trying to convince you this car was something it was not, they wouldn't have built that other hybrid monstrosity in their lineup. Get pissed about that car, not this one.

      Actually, get pissed about the whole environmental agenda before you get pissed about this car. This planet is going to be ravaged by nuclear war or an unstopable force of biological destruction LONG before we have to wear respirators to walk outside or New York is flooded by rising sea levels. If world governments had two brain cells to share, they'd start using their resources to find a way to colonize Mars or build massive underground cities because I can tell you right now there will be clear blue skies on the day the missles take flight no matter how much C02 my tailpipes dump in the atmosphere between now and then.
      JDM Life
      • 5 Years Ago
      The LS600H is a wonder car. So well built.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Take $20,000 off the price and well I still would not buy it.
      At over $100,000 people want to have a name and they are going to either buy a 7 Series or an S class, which I did.

      Lexus had value when it first came out and was much lower priced than the competitors but when you ask people to spend virtually the same money, they are going to pick the BMW or the Benz most of the time.
        • 5 Years Ago
        That depends, I know several people who have turned in their German luxury cars for a Lexus because they were tired of dealing with frustrating repairs and untimely maintenance. The Lexus brand still has clout in the luxury market, even if it is targeted at an older demographic.

        By the way, let me guess, and S550? Welcome back, Flashpoint!
        • 5 Years Ago
        AKBoss.

        Try a little higher.
        AMG.

        Flashpoint?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Is that not the most beautiful thing you've ever seen, or is that not the most beautiful thing you've ever seen? Man what I would do to that thing given some alone time.
      • 5 Years Ago
      And yes, I'm well aware that these are vying for ENTIRELY different markets. So let's throw in the new XJ Supersport, which won't be full of the pollutant batteries of a massive hybrid ala the 600L.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Lexus Hybrid doesn't work on me( expensive, aim on more HP, and torque), I'd choose Toyota if I want a Japanese hybrid. I'd choose IS-F rather than spend $100000+ on a luxury hybrid.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The LS and IS aren't even vaguely similar cars other than the fact that the LS600h and IS-F share a V8.
        At any rate the LS600h is still mostly going to be a six figure car even with the $10K off since it seems bizarre to drop this kind of money and not even get at least the premium package. Not really surprised that it's not selling like hotcakes though...doubt anything that costs this much is selling lol.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wow.. just looked up the spec's on this car and compared it to the normal LS and again WOW! So for 40k more over the top line LS all you get is 2 miles mpg less on hwy and 4 mpg more in the city?! oh but its a hybrid so the person will look good with his neighbors, Buffy and Clyde and their dog Fifi.

      Still can't believe it though.. 100k for a Lexus Hybrid!!! Now if it got 40mpg ok but for only about 24mpg thats just yeah.. again wow!
        • 5 Years Ago
        The LED lights are the tip of the iceberg - the hybrid version of the big Lexus comes with all kinds of kit that's not in the gas car. Hybrids that are sold by all manufacturers tend to be well equipped and more luxurious than their gas-only counterparts - helps the manufacturer recoup some of the development cost.
        • 5 Years Ago
        It also has like 70 more HP and the LED headlights(which are about $5K alone). Remember the hybrid line in Lexus(aside from the HS and IS) is basically a performance line.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Pretty much people with that kind of money typically could careless about saving gas since they have a never ending wallet.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Most buyers would rather have a fuel efficient Diesel.
        • 5 Years Ago
        In america? LOL no.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The handful of rich pricks who had to look like green posers have already purchased the over-priced Lexus LS 600h L, so its no wonder they aren't selling.

      • 5 Years Ago
      Everyone that wanted one, has one... anyone that could not afford one, dropping 10% is not going to make it any more pleasing. That's taking $2K off a $20K vehicle, so what??? I can negotiate any day of the year better than that.

      The LS600HL was purely a snob vehicle for Lexus, to say they made a $100K vehicle and super snobby for those that bought it. In a bad economy, nobody cares for snobs.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I guess their biggest market is Beverly Hills.
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