• Sep 30th 2009 at 5:40PM
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PickupTrucks.com has snagged photos of a Ford F-150 powertrain prototype with a brand new engine under the hood. And if the rumors are to be believed, it's the new 5.0-liter "Coyote" V8 due to debut in 2010.
The Coyote is thought to be a twin cam, four-valve per cylinder motor with an output of 400 hp and 400 lb-ft of torque. The new V8 will replace the long-in-the-tooth modular V8, joining the 6.8-liter V10 it's derived from.

The 5.0-liter will be used in both the light duty F-series pickups and the Mustang, and it should be interesting to see if Ford markets the EcoBoost V6 in trucks against the V8 when they're outputs are so similar.

Pickuptrucks.com also notes that one of the trucks was equipped with seven-bolt wheels, indicating a heavy duty payload version. This fits with comments made by Ford at the launch of the new F-150 last year, where Ford's marketing people indicated that some buyers whose needs were on the edge of the Super Duty were actually moving down to the F-150 for lower cost and better fuel efficiency. A light duty truck with an enhanced payload would help bridge the gap to bigger trucks, giving buyers more options.

[Source: PickupTrucks]

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      • 5 Years Ago
      I thought I was the only one who noticed that the torque figure is near impossible. 350-370 is more likely, like the E39 M5 engine, or the IS-F engine.
      Ford built a Mustang FR500 7 or 8 years ago which was had a 5.0L V8, 415hp, 365lb-ft. They're finally getting serious about that idea.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Near impossible" is probably a little strong, but I agree something around 70 to 75 ft-lb/L is more likely than 80 ft-lb/L for this motor. I was thinking of something along the lines of the Toyota and BMW 5L V8s as well.
        • 5 Years Ago
        dude, go tell Ford that it is impossible. You are so bright and educated right. I mean, you probably have designed a few engines in your life
      • 5 Years Ago
      So I can be rolling in my 5.0.....Stick the thing in the Mustang and let SVT massage it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        how long till ecoboost shelby 350 gt?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Cannot wait to see this in the Mustang.
      • 5 Years Ago
      grammar error in the third paragraph:

      "The 5.0-liter will be used in both the light duty F-series pickups and the Mustang, and it should be interesting to see if Ford markets the EcoBoost V6 in trucks against the V8 when they're outputs are so similar. "

      their outputs.

      In other news, horray for a new 5.0 ford engine! It would be very interesting to drive an ecoboost car and a coyote car back to back.
        • 5 Years Ago
        we are talking about an all new dohc v8 5.0

        the old 3v 4.6 made 300hp/320 tq

        if you scale that up to 5.0 you get 326/348, think about dohc full vvt heads and what they would do to those numbers. i really dont see a reason why this engine cant hit 400 tq epically if DI is on the table
      • 5 Years Ago
      The seven-lug wheels would mean a return of the "F-150 7700" or F-250 light duty models they made several years ago, before the 2004 design was launched. I just saw one of the late '90s F-150 7700s today (a city-owned vehicle).
      • 5 Years Ago
      This truck proves that Ford knows what buyers want. Pay attention GM and Chrysler.....
      • 5 Years Ago
      I don't know why you guys even pay attention to that retard. He's a troll, let him troll his boat anyway he wants.

      Matt is the biggest hater. He likes putting down Auto Mfg. that are doing wonders in the auto industry. He's probably a GM fan driving a new camaro with all of its f'ken recalls.

      Hey Matt, don't hate appreciate. Better yet, dont' hate go back in your basement and masterbate.

      Your a disgrace to this site. GET A LIFE
      • 5 Years Ago
      They need to put that engine in the mustang now.Burr Aye Okay
      • 5 Years Ago
      Here are a few facts for some of you that say this is impossible:
      1. FACT: Ford recently sold off several brands, but not before a BRAND NEW "over square" 5.0 Liter V8 was developed. Those brands are Jaguar (380hp/380tq normally aspirated) and Range Rover (375hp/375tq normally aspirated). It *could* be more than a coincidence that they each make "near" 400/400 and came out before the F150/Mustang version.
      2. FACT: The BRAND NEW "over square" 5.0 Liter V8 is not, was not, and never has been a derivative of the rock-solid modular motors. The modular motors are "under square" and make great low-end torque but are not very good for HP or higher RPMs. (Reference the formula that has already been explained, then consider an Indy car engine versus a tractor engine.)
      3. UNCONFIRMED: Ford of Australia reportedly has a BRAND NEW "over square" 5.0 Liter V8 that is worth 402 HP and 398 TQ in the new Ford Falcon (Australia Only).
        • 5 Years Ago
        "It's amazing what Direct Injection, with twin cams and four-valve heads can do for a motor." No truer words have ever been spoken. It's about time Ford saw the light!! This is why I own Ford stock (but drive a Toyota - maybe not for long if Ford keeps this up!)

        If you compare the Coyote 5.0L V8 to the Lexus IS-F (Toyota) 5.0L V8 you get some very interesting things. First off, someone mentioned this earlier, the relation to the 5.0L in the Jag/Range Rover lineup is too coincidental to ignore. The Coyote V8 has to have some relationship to these engines. Since we don't know bore/stroke of the Coyote, let's just assume its the same as the Jag/RR 5.0L = 92.5mm x 93mm. This engine already makes 375hp/375tq in the Range Rover and could easily make up to 400 hp/tq with direct injection (or cams, or porting, or whatever, I just think DI is the cheapest/easiest and Ford has come a long way with their DI systems - Ecoboost).

        The Toyota V8 has a bore/stroke of 94mm x 89.5mm and makes 417hp/371tq - which makes sense since this is a car engine that a) has a larger bore than stroke, and b) is tuned for HP. Assuming all else is equal, the Toyota 5.0 V8 should be able to make more HP than the Coyote engine if DI is utilized. Assuming 25 hp for DI - like the Jag/RR vs. Coyote, the Toyota would be at 442 HP and 396 ft-lbs.

        All of this makes me think that the next move in V8 truck engines may have to be toward direct injection if that is what Ford is doing. Let's face it - The IS-F is a sports car, 80 hp&tq/L is very impressive for a run-of-the-mill truck engine. Ford may be changing the game as we speak...

        • 5 Years Ago
        Jaguar's engine has 'VTEC', dual length intake runners, uses premium fuel, in addition to aforementioned direct injection, variable intake and variable exhaust valve timing, 11.5:1 compression, and isn't that undersquare 92.5x93

        Nissan's 5.0 (390hp 369ft-lbs) has intake lift scaling, variable intake & exhaust valve timing, 95.5x87.7, and 10.9:1
      • 5 Years Ago
      And speaking of the old 5.0 I've had three and all three were and are dead reliable .
      94 GT Vert. Stang modified to 325 HP at the crank ran well over 275,000 miles , a 91 T-bird bought new and put over 375,000 miles on it and now my ole faithful 91 F-150 with 300,000 and still running strong and thats with my foot in its ass every chance I get .
        • 5 Years Ago
        i wish ford had stuck with the ohv smallblock, still the best answer for street performance
      • 5 Years Ago
      Yep...looks like a Ford boat anchor to me.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Gloria's was quite entertaining."

        I guess by that same standard, Al Gore and watching grass grow are entertaining as well.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Mom let you out of the basement again, huh??

        Hey, I have an idea. If we all get together........... you know, all the posters on the forums that you troll on, and all of the posters from all of the sites that you have been banned from, and put in $1 each............ we should be able to come up with the $700 that you think Ford owes you.

        Will you then go away............ or at least stop trolling any thread that has the word Ford in it??

        Heck, you might even take the time to see daylight. They say that daylight is good for the mood, and the skin. :o)
        • 5 Years Ago
        Oh come on, is that the best you can do?

        If you insist on stalking me, at least come up with some good quips. These are just...lame...
      • 5 Years Ago
      I think the 400HP and 400Ft-lbs numbers are correct, just not at the same time:
      - trucks need more torque = 400ft-lbs, but low-mid 300's HP
      - sports cars need more HP = 400Hp but low-mid 300's torque...
      Its easy to "tune" engines for different applications... especially if they are both RWD...

      As far as the 3.5V6 EcoBoost, it can produce both 400HP AND 400ft-lbs at low RPM and be a "premium" high MPG engine for the F150...

      2010 is going to be a great year for Ford "MOTOR" Company... finally!
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