• Sep 8, 2009
In the wake of the government's Cash for Clunkers program, analysts are crunching the data to determine who benefited the most from the month-long incentive program. Interestingly enough, it appears that "Blue States" (states where the residents predominantly vote for Democrat) benefited the most. USA Today reports that the 28 states that voted for Barack Obama have requested nearly $2.13 billion in rebates. On the other hand, states that voted for John McCain (a.k.a. "Red States"), have only requested $757 million.

Political analysts are puzzled, as there is no clear-cut indicator to explain the findings. One has suggested that middle-class Americans in Blue States took advantage of the rebate, even if they weren't in the market for a new car. Another suggested that it was up to the dealers. "I know in Tennessee, dealers were pulling back, whereas in Illinois, the dealers were all gung-ho," said a democratic pollster. One significant deciding factor was credit. Mississippi (a red state) finished second from the bottom. "I'm sure there are a lot of people who would have loved to trade in, but in Mississippi, income and credit right now are the worst I've seen," said the general manager of a dealership in the state.

[Source: USA Today]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Just a side note: California, a "blue" state, is one of the largest car buying economies in the world ON IT'S OWN.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Makes sense due to being the largest populated state in the US.
      • 5 Years Ago
      this is so stupid. and so sad at the same time.

      blue states comprise of 365 electoral votes
      red states comprise of 173 electoral votes

      electoral votes are roughly based on population of each state.

      thus, blue states roughly represent 2x the population of red states.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wow. You have all been dooped again. The fact that some form of media spoon fed and delivered another picture of blue and red lines just puzzles it right out of you. Divided and Conquered your thoughts are. I know another map of the US that was broken into two colors, and yet here we are over a century later trying still trying to split it up.

      And for that matter I hardly think better of the person taking $12 than the one taking $16, I'm getting robbed either way.

      The real question here is in the decision to pass this piece along. The map is crappy, there is no description of the number one on it, the star, nor a summation on the smaller states, and there is clearly a legend that would be visible were it not for the common color black being used - which I assume is done to keep this as bluntly simple as possible.

      I can't really fault Autoblog for being timely in terms of what's being said in the news, but in this case it's news (USA Today) making news. for* it's part, I would prefer Autoblog to provide a little additional commentary on the piece - a "grain of salt" caution on the dish I'm expected to eat.

      Now, about that dude and the $20...**

      * I appologize, the key combination for my capital "f" spits fire on my screen.
      ** I round up now pay up. Yea I'm talking to you buddy. Get out of that rolling vault of precious metals and broken dreams and get back here...
      • 5 Years Ago
      A Zmfir

      You posted

      "They might want to write their representatives and urge them to accept less federal aid if 'taking government handouts' is against their ideology."



      You are kidding correct?!?

      The posts you all refer to don't differentiate between hand-outs, military contractors and social security and other benefits paid to retirees.

      They military spending goes to Red States-why? Because they are predominatly located in the Red States and so are the bases.

      Some have defense contractors have offices or facilities in Blue States, but the only major contractor in a Blue State is Bath Iron Works in Maine.

      Otherwise that money flows to the Red states.


      Guess what-People retire in the Red States, not in Blue ones- Many more than in the blue states-it's just a fact of life, they're nicer to retire in.

      That money flows to the Red States.



      This lie about "red state welfare" is floated around the lunatic fringe websites all the time, being a kid it's no surprise you bought into it.


      Don't worry, now that the President paid off his political cronies with a Trillion Dollar "Stimulus" -that'll even things out.

      It'll even keep unemployment at 8%. The President Promised!



      • 5 Years Ago
      Nowadays automotive news seems to be intertwined with political news.
      • 5 Years Ago
      haha. oh you republicans!
        • 5 Years Ago
        Red States = Live poor. Vote Rich.
      • 5 Years Ago
      It's not impossible to believe that the blue states were 'engineered' into this by creating the rules to favor those states. It is impossible to believe that the rules MADE this happen. 700K individual transactions occurred. There are approximately 575 decision makers if you count only the vote casters, the signatory, the cabinet and the auto task force. They didn't go home into their districts/winning states and tow all those clunkers to the dealerships.
      • 5 Years Ago
      While I agree with ed, I'd also like to think that the folks in red states are sticking to their ideology and are refusing to take government handouts.

      ;-)
        • 5 Years Ago
        Well said, Sanders, will they teach you the secret handshake at NPR now? I know you think that your hate speech is better that 'am radio' but really, it's exactly the same. That's the problem with hate speech, the hater doesn't even realize they're doing it...
        • 5 Years Ago
        "I'd also like to think that the folks in red states are sticking to their ideology and are refusing to take government handouts."

        They might want to write their representatives and urge them to accept less federal aid if 'taking government handouts' is against their ideology.
        • 5 Years Ago
        From data compiled by Tax Foundation.org The states that receive more in Federal spending than they contribute in Federal taxes. I.e. New Mexico gets $2.03 from the Feds, for every dollar it sends to Washington.

        Budget Welfare Queens

        1. New Mexico $2.03
        2. Mississippi 2.02
        3. Alaska 1.84
        4. Louisiana 1.78
        5. West Virginia 1.76
        6. North Dakota 1.68
        7. Alabama 1.66
        8. South Dakota 1.53
        9. Kentucky 1.51
        10. Virginia 1.51
        11. Montana 1.47
        12. Hawaii 1.44
        13. Maine 1.41
        14. Arkansas 1.41
        15. Oklahoma 1.36
        16. South Carolina 1.35
        17. Missouri 1.32
        18. Maryland 1.30
        19. Tennessee 1.27
        20. Idaho 1.21
        21. Arizona 1.19
        22. Kansas 1.12
        23. Wyoming 1.11
        24. Iowa 1.10
        25. Nebraska 1.10
        26. Vermont 1.08
        27. North Carolina 1.08
        28. Pennsylvania 1.07
        29. Utah 1.07
        30. Indiana 1.05
        31. Ohio 1.05
        32. Georgia 1.01
        • 5 Years Ago
        Actually, most "republicans" that I know ARE fiscally conservative. Don't let government actions fool you into thinking thats actually what the people want.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ideology? Sorry, no. There are very few fiscal Republicans left. Most of the one's who were outspoken this past election are of the fundamental Christian evangalist, the anti-same sex marriage and 'let's nuke all the Muslims because AM radio said to' crowd. Leaning hard right on social issues does not make one a text book capitalist.
        • 5 Years Ago
        What's the point in emoticons if people are just going to ignore them?

        I think you all missed the irony in my original post. Hence the ";-)". I believe most red state voters are actually hypocrites when it comes to actually living with their stated beliefs. (actually, I think that about most *people*, but that's a subject for another day)
        • 5 Years Ago
        Government actions have nothing to do with this. It's the people I see blowing up abortion clinics and assasinating doctors, the religious nuts who think Armageddon is imminent and push for foreign policy in the middle East to that end and those who would control your life in your own bedroom.

        It's these people I fear, the American Taliban, not the government. And it's these people that hijacked the Republican party.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Nope. Red states are normally the biggest recipients of government handouts.
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19566-2005Jan18.html

      • 5 Years Ago
      How 'bout population data? Look at the blue states- California, New York, All of New England- these are the states with the most people of course there are gonna be more C4C rebates requested.
        • 5 Years Ago
        LOL, yeah I was looking at that map wondering what it had to do with the article. At least photoshop out the numbers...
        • 5 Years Ago
        Noodlz,

        Thanks for pointing that out...

        - Mike
      • 5 Years Ago
      why not cross reference it with which states receive the most aid, i'd wager most of the blue states receive less aid which might indicate a buying population more ready to purchase a car and take on said debt? Doesn’t seem too puzzling.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Crap? Sure if you think the federal tax burden numbers released in every census are crap. If that's the case then we've left a reasonable discussion. As Audi pointed out, none of this is new, the same trend was obvious last election.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Federal, from the government, specifically federal tax burden for programs in the health and services, welfare, food programs etc. We could play the median income game instead if you want. Either way there seems to be more disposable income as a rule in the blue states than the red states, which would provide a fairly feasible reason for the miracles results of c4c in said states.

        People who can afford to buy cars, or who can qualify for credit under the new regulations, will do so. I’m sure population size helps as well.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @kitko: "Apparetnly, people in Blue states are more intelligent and simply took advantage of the great offer. Apparently, Red states' population was just not quick enough to realize what they can gain."

        Reconstructed for this universe:

        "Apparetnly, people in Blue states are more intelligent and simply took advantage of taking up the fed on it's offer to give them other people's money. Apparently, Red states' population was incensed with the notion of federalized theft and declined."

        Whoops, sorry, we're in the HopeNChange'iverse, Kitko probably had it right.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Let me put it this way. Apparetnly, people in Blue states are more intelligent and simply took advantage of the great offer. Apparently, Red states' population was just not quick enough to realize what they can gain.
        • 5 Years Ago
        From 2004 Census data:

        http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_tot_tax_bur-total-tax-burden-per-capita

        As a rule, blue states "pay into" government programs more with their tax dollars, while red states contribute less, "cashing out" more of other states' tax dollars (for welfare, food stamps, taxpayer-funded health care, etc). Zamafir didn't point this out to be partisan, but as a measure of how much disposable income these states' residents have. People with more money on hand are more likely to rush out and buy a new car when it's been mildly incentivized.
        • 5 Years Ago
        What kind of "aid" do you mean? And from whom?
        • 5 Years Ago
        adam:

        This isn't rocket science; The blue states no only have more drivers, but wealthier drivers, thus more buyers. If you look at the difference in government payout per driver as Zamafir pointed out, considering the difference in disposable income, this isn't suprizing at all.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I love my state(well I love it's location and the fact that I don't get extreme weather) but I find it hard to believe ny has a lower rate of welfare and other government programs than montana or kansas.
        • 5 Years Ago
        ...Aren't they the most populate states anyhow?
      • 5 Years Ago
      I ignored Nebraska since it was split in the 2008 election.

      There are 196,874,838 people in blue states (and DC), they got $2170M. That's $10.82/person.
      There are 82,835,805 people in red states, they got $757M. That's $9.14/person.

      That says blue states got about 10% more per person. So the difference is really minor between red and blue states. The big thing just is that there are just so many more people in blue states than red states right now. If you count the higher median income (buying power) in blue states (all of the bottom 9 states in median income are red), the difference might even reverse.
      • 5 Years Ago
      ROFL @ liberals
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