• Sep 2, 2009
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The new Porsche 911 Turbo is packed with sports car goodness, primarily with the inclusion of a new steering wheel with proper paddles for tapping your way through the gearbox. The replacement of the silly up-down switches on the spokes will be an option on the Turbo and it seems like the wiring from the wheel to the column is the same regardless of which style you choose.

That means the new wheel can plug into the connection on any new Porsche steering column including the 911, Boxster or Cayman. So if you aren't content with Porsche's admonishment that the two-switch setup is technically superior, you will soon have another way to pay an absurd premium for an option on your Porsche.



[Source: Car and Driver]



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      • 5 Years Ago
      To each his own. IMO any transmission that doesn't stall the car when you stop (without you manually shifting into neutral) is an automatic in my book, because it must be down shifting for you then. But then again I'm really a stickshift fanboy but still.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I don't understand why someone who is buying a Porsche 911, or any Porsche for that matter, would buy one with an automatic transmission!
        • 5 Years Ago
        I agree - I would never put a plain old automatic in any high performance car.

        But this is not a plain old auto. DSG/PDK gearboxes are "sequential manuals", also called "dual clutch manual gearboxes". They are arguably better than regular manuals, and much better than regular automatics.

      • 5 Years Ago
      A DSG type gear box has as direct connection as a manual. It uses a clutch instead of a torque converter and you have as much control over what gear you are in as you would want (of course the computer isn't going to let you shift into 2nd at 70, but then you wouldn't do that anyway).

      As someone who has daily driven a MT since getting his license, I simply don't understand the infatuation some people have the manual gearbox. To me the advantages are the throttle response and the control, DSG type boxes offer both of those advantages.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I wouldn't, but only because I am a cheapass. The actual action of shifting becomes automatic so the only thing you gain from a MT is being able to choose the gear. DSGs allow the same thing.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Consider a bumper to bumper I-405 commute everyday and you'll quickly understand the advantages of a PDK/DSG. I'd be curious to see the stats but I bet at least 70% of 911s will be PDKs.
        And at $400, the paddles are a bargain ;-)
        • 5 Years Ago
        Still man, it's about feeling connected to the car. Great the DSG is more effective and quick but as many have already pointed out, it's disengaging (speling?) you from the car. If a weekend/sportscar could steer for you and it would be quicker around every bend than you ever could manage, would you buy it? This is the same thing. As for standard cars, i would probably opt for DSG anytime.
      • 5 Years Ago
      As an BMW SMG owner I am sold on a good automated manual... they have all the benefits of sticks and none of the draw backs, once you have been taught how to drive one, and use it there is nothing comparable.... Of course I must be a pansy since I do not row my own on my e46.... I do row my own on my 73 240 track car.... so does that make me half a pansy?
      • 5 Years Ago
      What I REALLY wanna know is can I get them painted the body color for only $2k?

      Or is the upshift paddle standard and the downshift paddle an extra $800?
      • 5 Years Ago
      Paddles, schmaddles, as long as they offer a proper manual transmission, I don't care what the sissy's who automatics get for paddles. RX-8 is absolutely correct.
        • 5 Years Ago
        That's correct.

        Computer shifted gearboxes are for ninnies.
        • 5 Years Ago
        In a race fractions of a second can mean winning or losing. Automated/sequential manual gearboxes might be able to shift fractions of a second faster than the human hand but they don't improve the driving experience. Racers don't care about the driving experience. They care about winning.
        • 5 Years Ago
        In addition, I'm betting that since this is a car blog, 100% of us know how to drive stick.


        ...and yet a great number of you pretend it makes you effing superman? You're not unique or impressive or manly.

        Learn a new skill, this one's overplayed to death.

        • 5 Years Ago
        Jim, when you start your own car company you can make your cars manual only.
        Let us know how it goes for you.

        I have a DSG box complete with paddles in my Golf GTI. I bought the DSG version 'cos after testing both it and the manual, the DSG was better.
        Much better in my opinion.
        • 5 Years Ago
        So Formula One and GP 2 etc drivers are sissies?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Under that logic, the Enzo and Bugatti Veyron are for sissies?
      • 5 Years Ago
      "automated manual gearboxes, IMHO, are not a replacement for a manual option. They are a replacement for an AUTOMATIC gearbox option on a sporty car"

      Bingo! That is exactly right. Manuals have their place and will continue to be offered for those that want them.
      In the meantime, triptronics are history and probably won't be overly missed.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Well...I own both a 6-manual 911 C4S and a Volkswagen R32 DSG and...I am thinking of trading both for a 911 PDK.
      I love those DSG/PDK transmissions. It's really the best of both worlds; I use my DSG as an automatic in Los Angeles traffic and then as a manual with paddles on spirited weekend drives. And it really works and sounds like a manual. No converter.
      And if I have to pay an extra $1K for paddles...I (reluctantly) will. When you buy a 911 for $100K...you don't think twice about that extra. It still remains though that Porsche should offer the paddles standard.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Thank you for an intelligent comment from an actual owner that does actual real world driving.

        There is a reason that Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini etc offer this transmission. Their buyers want them. Anyone that has driven in bumper to bumper traffic in a manual knows how tiresome it can get.
        • 5 Years Ago
        that steering wheel is 416.50 Euros in Europe , it will be around $400 in the US.

        porsche.de has the new turbo in the car configurator.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Sometimes you can get the dealer to throw this stuff in for free. That's what i did with the 350 euro cruise control "option" on my Porka... it is like trying to charge for windscreen wipers or a steering wheel!

        On the other hand, some German owners I know actually spec their cars with zero options because, and i quote, "it adds weight."

        I like the PDK, and I have been waiting for the Turbo with a PDK to arrive. Personally I prefer to keep both hands on the wheel when I am driving cars in the 500 bhp bracket.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I understand that the manu-matic or whatever we're calling them these days perform well and all that. But, for me driving is partially about fun and shifting gears is fun to me. Flapping paddles, meh.

      I do drive a manual transmission in bumper to bumper traffic nearly every day and I don't care. I want my manual.

      And as a plus, my wife can't drive it so I don't have to worry about her taking my car.
      • 5 Years Ago
      The point is at this price point why should this be an option? They force you to use the buttons and then charge you (or go the aftermarket route) if you want paddles which is far better and what other manufacturers use to begin with.

      I love porsche and would like to own a 911 one someday, but this is just greed in plain site. Why not ditch the buttons for PDK and use the paddles in the first place? Its an amazing tranny, let down by those stupid buttons. So you want it to be easy to adopt for current auto owners, yeah right, why not make the buttons optional then for those people? That would make too much sense and not enough profit I guess.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wow.

      Lots of hatred for automated gearboxes.

      I have to agree with the folks here who say that PDK/DSG/F1-style gearboxes have their place.

      Personally, I would have a hard time choosing between a PDK or a 6MT Porsche. I like the feel, but I also like the tech that offers versatility, and quickness, without the disconnection of a torque converter.

      Complex angular hand movements and pumping my left leg is fun and all, but I am not convinced that being in control of the gearbox from my fingertips behind the steering wheel is all that much less "connected". Maybe less traditional. And people have been getting along with drive-by-wire throttles, without a cable between your foot and the engine.

      automated manual gearboxes, IMHO, are not a replacement for a manual option. They are a replacement for an AUTOMATIC gearbox option on a sporty car. Notice that it replaced the tiptronic, not the 6MT...

      A "manual" option on a hydraulic automatic transmission is a pale comparison to a computer-controlled, faster than human dual-clutch gearbox, and having two separate gearsets, one on-deck for the other, and alternating clutches. It is a good system, and cannot be controlled by hand, only by computer.

      I'll take a computer controlling my gearbox like that before I will take a black box recorder, or OwnStar monitoring in my car.

      And as far as the steering wheel, "flappy-paddles" seem like an improvement over "thumby-buttons" that the PDK usually offers. finger contraction grasping action seems more automatically physiological than moving just your thumbs around.
      • 5 Years Ago
      First off, Flappy paddles are lame for your everyday sports car driver. If I am buying a machine like this, I want the least amount of interruption between me, said machine and road. I want to feel "connected". If you can't shift it yourself, go buy a Lexus.

      That doesn't mean that sequential gear boxes are technologically irrelevant. They are great when a 0.0003 second up shift can help you win the race. But come on... How many 911 TT owners need to shave 2 seconds of their commute to work.

      Now... With that said, that steering wheel with the paddles is the sex.
        • 5 Years Ago
        "How many 911 TT owners need to shave 2 seconds of their commute to
        work."

        By that same stroke, why would any commuter need a 911 at all? Who 'needs' a fast car to commute to work?

        I actually follow your logic, to a degree. I have a manual on my slow second vehicle, a pickup truck. It makes the lumbering beast a little fun.

        But on my next sporty daily driver, I want a DCG. Doesn't suck in traffic, and the car has a sporty engine, suspension, and fast shifting for when you make it out of traffic.


        But I don't follow you all the way... why insist that all fast cars have slow transmissions?
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