• Jun 17, 2009

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With sales slumping and money suddenly pretty tight, Porsche would no-doubt love to move more metal. Sure, the Stuttgart, Germany sports car maker has assured us that it will make money this year and next, but it wouldn't hurt to have a little insurance. According to Auto Motor & Sport, more sales could come from a cheaper yet more powerful Boxster. The site is reporting that Porsche is looking into the Audi TTS engine. At 272 hp and 258 lb-ft, the turbocharged 2.0-liter engine would eclipse Porsche's standard issue boxer engine by a useful 17 hp and 45 lb-ft of torque.

If the story from Auto Motor & Sport is to believed, the Audi-fied Boxster would be cheaper, too. The site is quoting a price that drops from €46,500 ($64,000 in US funds) down to €40,000 ($55,000). The only problem for Porsche purists is that the TTS engine isn't exactly a boxer engine. But the faithful got over the Cayenne (maybe), so we're sure an affordable Boxster that is lighter (we're guessing), more powerful, and cheaper will put their minds at ease.

Interestingly, the article also mentions anew a lower-priced roadster that would sit at the bottom of the Porsche food chain. The sub-Boxster Porsche would have to start somewhere around $40,000, and while it would almost surely boost Porsche sales, it could also cut into the brand's prestige if it isn't properly executed.



[Source: Auto Motor & Sport via Motor Authority]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Reminds me of a saying I remembered reading in an automotive forum:

      "Because any idiot with a paycheck can get a water-cooled Porsche, only a true patron of the arts gets an air-cooled 911, with all the expenses, danger, and sheer joy they provide."

      I agree.

      Air-cooled = Real Porsche
      Water-cooled = Yuppie poseur mobile

      • 5 Years Ago

      Put in the ej257. Turbo? check! Boxer? check! Problem solved. Except the tuners will make it faster then a 911.

        • 5 Years Ago
        Which is why it doesn't get the ~380hp 3.8 engine out of the Carrera S.

        But some get transplanted in aftermarket anyway.

        If I won the lottery, if I played the lottery... an engine-transplanted Cayman S with other mods would be one of the first toys I would buy.

        An R8 V8 for every day, the transplanted Cayman S for REAL pure sports car fun, and a 996 C4S, or the most tricked out H6-manual gearbox, geared-up Subaru Forester anyone has ever seen, for rainy days and winter duty, and a BMW Boxer-engined motorcycle, R1200S, or HP2 Sport.

        Boxer engines, and AWD. One, or preferably both. Can't go wrong.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is not a bad thing considering the very very silent problem of the Boxster engines blowing up... Seems Porsche did a little unneeded cost cutting on the engine, my sources say it was about $25 worth of parts from the 996 engine aka m96 and m97 that where removed when put into the Boxster. I also heard that the post 2000 fix is not handling it, and currently one local P-car specialist has 19 blown Boxster engines being rebuilt.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Begin diluting Porsche brand....NOW!....
      • 5 Years Ago
      Sounds workable to me, but will a vertical engine really fit in that horizontal engine bay?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Well, the engine, originally comes from the Audi S3 where it is actually slightly tilted already, so I guess they might be able to tilt it even further to fit it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Why not flop it aka BMW flying bricks?
        I see the crankshaft being somewhat out of centerline, but that can be worked out with a new trans or morse chain transfer to clutch mounted on transmssion.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @BoxerFanatic, i'm sorry but where does it say they're going to put it in the current gen boxter? We've know the bluesport concept would proffer Audi and Porsche models should it reach production. Porsche will just add their nose and tail to the bluesport like they did with their expensive touareg and call it a day. It'll still bear the boxer name, and makes perfect sense given their arcane pricing scheme which prevents the cayman from trumping the 911 and which would create a fair amount of space below the boxter but above the vw product.

        I'll be a bit more clear when I say it's fine. It'll be fine in the cheaper boxter it's intended for, but not for the current gen car.

        Now if you excuse me I need to exercise the 914 and tell it about the future sibling.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @dwightB, yeah I realized that after the fanatic's rant, i'm on a different tangent, current gen (makes no sense) vs forthcoming (a lot more sense).
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Zamafir.

        No, it won't fit.

        First of all it is far too tall. an inline engine is tall by definition. A FLAT engine is not nearly as tall, and has a better center of gravity for it.

        Second of all, it is too long. A flat 4 or even a flat 6 is only a bit longer than two or three cylinder lengths, but is wide. An inline engine might fit transversely, but then you have to package a FWD-style transverse, offset gearbox with it. Longitudinal gearboxes are more robust, less heat-prone, have a more logical and simple layout, and equal length side half-shaft outputs, not steeply offset to one side of the engine.

        The boxster chassis is not built for a tall engine, and certainly not for a longitudinally LONG, and tall engine. It is designed for a BOXER, and is BETTER that way. The car is not overly long, not overly tall, not overly heavy, and doesn't have the drawbacks of a transverse engine layout.

        That is what makes the 987 chassis so GOOD, is it's packaging, and the benefits of a flat engine and longitudinal drivetrain.

        If they ruin that, I will be extremely sorely put-out. After Subaru ruins the appearance of it's entire lineup, if Porsche dilutes their mid-engined sports car away from boxer engines...

        anger. Lots of ANGER.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Why can't they just buy WRX STi engines from Subaru? Flat, powerful, reliable, perfect!

      Well, other than Subaru is owned by Fuji and Porsche is owned by VW (or vice versa).... yeh yeh I get that....
      • 5 Years Ago
      I like BoxerFanatics idea. A smaller, 4 cylinder (turbo?) boxer engine would be the way to go on this. Throwing a Audi TSFI would get the job done, but what would you be sacrificing. Ferrari isn't selling a 6 cylinder F430 to move more cars.

      Although, in argument FOR the idea, Porsche isn't really about purists anymore. (except for the 911 with the engine in the wrong place). The Audi is a nice engine by anyone's standards and it would be relatively cheap compared to engineering an entirely new engine.

      Either way, I wouldn't buy one anyway, I'm more of a Caymen/911TT kind of guy.
      • 5 Years Ago
      A Porsche should not have less than 6 cylinders. Period.
      Hasn't Porsche learnt its lesson with the 924/944/968?!?
      The Boxer engine is a must and that's the main reason the Boxster has been such a success and saved Porsche a few years ago.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Good idea....gets the boxster further away from the 911.

      As the article states, however, Porsche purists will hate the idea.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Why would one want to move the boxster/cayman away from 911?

        The 987 platform, arguably, is the purer sports car than the 997.

        If anything, I want 987 to be MORE like 997. Put the Carrera or Carrera S engine in the Boxster S and Cayman S.

        Make a Cayman GT or Club Sport with GT3-like hardware.

        I wish the roofline of Cayman was a bit more graceful like the 996/997, with a shallower arch, and a longer line, with longer, less abrupt rear quarter windows, even if it were to enlarge the flying buttress effect of the rear hatch, with the rear window glass still being a steeper rake.

        If I had the money, I'd put the GT2 front end, or at least the 997 turbo front end, with 997 oval headlights, and the LED winglet indicators, on a Cayman body.

        I wish the Cayman and Boxster were not held down to preserve the "aura" of the 911 as much as it is. I would be fine with MORE overlap. That doesn't mean I don't like the 997, especially in AWD forms, which is far easier to do with rear-engine layout.

        Porsche does not need to be diluted. A front or mid engined V8 sports car with Grand Touring pretensions would be fine. I could even see a 944/968 revival, with a longitudinal front engined Inline 4, rear-transaxle RWD, 2+2 coupe.

        But do NOT mess around with diluting the mid-engined boxer sports cars, the 987 cars. They are the only ones of their kind on the market. Enhance them, or even offer base line flat 4 versions, but do not dilute them with non-Porsche hardware from the factory.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Sounds like they are about to commit automotive blasphemy to me!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Without a boxer engine, will they have to change the name to "Porsche Inlinester"?
      • 5 Years Ago
      I have a Boxster S and I love it, the flat six give a distinctive and satisfying noise when pushed.

      The Cayenne and the upcoming Panamera have V6 and V8 engines and no one seems to mind.

      As the article states, Porsche will have to be careful how it releases the car or they could damage the brand.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I agree with moresaturday200daily, it is all in execution. People want fancy car names but do not want to pay for the gas or the engine.
        This might bring in a lot of new customers for Porsche.
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