• Jun 16, 2009
Winnipeg authorities are all "Lookie! Crashes are down at the intersections equipped with our spiffy new red-light cameras," but Manitoba Public Insurance and the Winnipeg Sun newspaper are all: "Stop lying!" Winnipeg says its 12 intersections equipped with the electronic sentinels have seen a 37% reduction in crashes since 2002. MPI and the WInnipeg Sun beg to differ, however, saying that insurance claims tell a markedly different, more complete story.
Part of the disparity can be attributed to the fact that collisions causing damage under $1,000 don't have to be reported to the police, but claims for those incidents are usually still submitted to insurance. According to the newspaper, the city's use of incomplete statistics to spin data the way it chooses has been going on for a while – it was flagged for the practice in a 2006 finding, and the figures that Manitoba Public Insurance reports figures some 66% higher than the city's figures. To hear the Sun tell it, the government's interest in photo radar appears to continue unabated as long as the money keeps rolling in, and skewed statistics only help make the case for the enforcement technology.

[Source: Winnipeg Sun | Image: Corrections Ontario]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Most of the time red light cameras are not government funded. Private companies install them free of charge in exchange for a large cut of the revenues. Needless to say, it's hard to trust a system with no accountability built in.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I'll be there in two weeks from now - it is always a challenge to get used to those because we don't have to many of them in Denver.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This data does nothing to disprove the assertion that the cameras have reduced accidents (the number of crashes pre-2002, by either method, was conveniently left out of the article.) In fact, if you read the article, the drop in crashes between 2006 and 2007 was even more dramatic when the insurance figures were used. Of course, I'm not saying that the cameras had anything to do with that-I'm just saying that this article is, at best, misleading. Come on, Autoblog. "Manipulating data"? The article doesn't say anything even close to that.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Not being able to trust our constabulary makes for a very cynical society.
      • 5 Years Ago
      And people wonder why the police are generally not well liked. There are honest cops out there, and maybe an honest person here or there holding a public office.

      Crap like this is just another drop in the bucket of the downward spiral we call "progress".

      How soon till we as a people get sick and tired of the lies and dishonesty that is our government and a system or people that are actually worth a damn?
      • 5 Years Ago
      This could never happen in the USA because our government always tells the truth.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Cop bashing to begin in 5...4...3...2...1...
        • 5 Years Ago
        Redeemed...dude! Are you from Winnipeg? They are notoriously bad. As a kid I remember hearing stories from people about how corrupt they were. Shoot, if you cut one off when he's off duty he's just as likely to chase you down and lay a beating to you as the criminals they shoot because they're Native. God help you if you're 14 and dark skinned... They've even run people off the road and taken their keys and thrown them in the ditch...again in a case of off duty road rage...on the officers part!! Don't doubt for a second that their stats are full of shi7. Wpg police = joke.
      • 5 Years Ago
      A voter referendum to ban red-light cameras is advancing to the ballot in College Station, Texas. Rally to be held July 16. http://legal-beagle.typepad.com/wrights_legal_beagle/2009/07/surveillance-technology-changes-law-enforcement.html --Ben
      • 5 Years Ago
      The other factor the auditor noted was that around 25% of the vehicles shot by the camera's had obsured licenses -- proof again that the honest folk get most of the tickets.

      In Winnipeg ... BTW if you actually do not plead guilty .. you get to face a judge and lawyer ... good luck. Most people get charged for the cities lawyer, court time, plus a good scolding from both.
      • 5 Years Ago
      See, the U.S. isn't the only place where corrupt officials try to bilk the citizens through laws based on poorly constructed statistics.
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