• May 21st 2009 at 12:58PM
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California's lead in setting stricter mileage standards for automobiles helped President Obama's administration formulate the new 35.5 mpg requirement for 2016. Since California's voice is so strong in the debate, we can see what might possibly be coming to the whole country in the later half of the next decade by looking at what California thinks will happen after 2016. Reuters did just that, and found that the California Air Resources Board chair Mary Nichols thinks that "a much more stringent standard" will be announced for 2017 and beyond.

That everyone appears to be happy with the 2016 requirement doesn't mean the struggles between CARB and the automakers have ended. Nichols told the news service that the compromise "doesn't signal any kind of flagging interest on the part of California in being part of a transformation of the auto fleet to something much more efficient than what it is today." A new EPA waiver request will need to be applied for, Reuters believes, but at least there appears to be a new feeling of working together. For now.

[Source: Reuters; Image: Pink Sherbet Photography | CC 2.0]

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      • 6 Years Ago
      I never knew we had a west coast branch of Washington, DC.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Let's hope for major earthquake and these frigging loons slide off into the ocean where they belong. The California Air Resourcws Board won't be happy until the entire county is back to horse drawn waggons.
        • 6 Years Ago
        @Sea Urchin,
        No car maker can afford NOT to sell cars in Claifornia.
        • 6 Years Ago
        No one is forcing carmakers to sell in CA, don't like their rules, don't sell.
        • 6 Years Ago
        No. Too many methane emissions from horses...
        That, and they'd just complain about animal cruelty instead.

        "But, I'm California! EVERYONE should be like ME!"
        • 6 Years Ago
        For once I agree with Sea Urchin. I think it would be hilarious if a significant number of automakers just said "Well, forget it, we're not selling any cars in California."

        Californians are already used to paying sky-high prices for the privilege of living in such a great place, so they will be more than happy to pay higher prices for the few cars that are acceptable in their Utopia.
      • 6 Years Ago
      its not that i dont want to save the earth... im perfectly for a high emissions requirement... but it all boils down to timing... do we really have to do this crap right now, on this year? there are far bigger issues in california than this hollywood-hyped save-the-earth campaign.

      the smug has spread from LA to the rest of california... its sad.
      • 6 Years Ago
      This is getting ridiculous, as much as I am a supporter of tougher emissions, fuel economy, etc regulation; CA can't just keep on saying they will be tougher then the federal regulations especially after they hit a compromise.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Whoever decided to allow lobbyists for ANY interest group fails at life.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Some folks said the same thing when emissions regulations were introduced in the 60s and when CAFE was implemented in the 70s, and each time CARB/CAFE requirements were notched up a bit. But look where we are today: we have more powerful cars that are polluting less, getting more MPG and are safer to boot.
      If anything higher fuel efficiency will create more options since people won't be forced to downsize into cars they can afford to gas up as they have been doing the last few years.
      • 6 Years Ago
      They probably won't be killed, but it'll be tougher for engineers. Ford has ECOboost, GM has Direct-Injection, and Chrysler has...........fiat? idk...

      Anyway, you see my point.
      • 6 Years Ago
      California won't rest until cars are banned from the US. And then they'll move on to people's cigarette lighters.

      For a state with many who drive long commutes to work and spend many hours in traffic in large, luxurious cars, they sure do somehow also hate the automobile while having a love affair with it.
      • 6 Years Ago
      We can all hope that CA will soon go bankrupt then all their green loons can move to Mass. driving them over the edge also. I too will view the Big One as a blessing if it sends CA out to sea and to their own country. Good riddance, whatever happens to them. They deserve it.
      Greenhouse Gas my a$$. CO2 is our friend.
      • 6 Years Ago
      cali pols should worry more about balancing a budget.
      • 6 Years Ago
      not gone,
      as mentallyretired noted, we'll just have to wait 25-30 years before we get to a good place for enthusiasts again. Enjoy that for 5-10 years and go through the cycle again
      • 6 Years Ago
      Seriously, we californians need to get rid of these people from office. This is exactly why we voted no to each and every one of their retarded propositions except for teh ONE that limited their salaries.

      They have bigger issues to deal with, but they just wont let go of this treehugging fanaticism. Dont they understand that these retarded rules they keep pushing only end up hurting the auto mfgs AND the economy as a whole???
        • 6 Years Ago

        Please let me know if you ever run for office, so I can vote for you. If I don't live in your district, no problem. I'll just register to vote in your district thru ACORN. :-)
        • 6 Years Ago

        Why is laying off government workers any different than laying off private sector workers?

        Millions of private sector workers have been laid off. Nobody is out crying them a river.

        People get laid off. Find new jobs. Life goes on. If most private sector workers went out and protested layoffs, they'd just be fired for not being at work. (Save union workers)

        The whole "you can't lay off government employees workers because the sky would fall" argument is just fearmongering by empire-building governments.

        Get over it. We have too many government workers.

        Nearly 1 in 7 people in the US work for the government in one form or another.
        • 6 Years Ago

        that is EXACTLY the red herring argument that California is making, and wants you to accept on face value.

        How about the GOVERNMENT getting a flippin' clue, and stop fear mongering.

        Police, fire, and *appropriate* levels of education funding should be the bedrocks of the budget, not the fear-mongering first ammo to be fired across the bow of the public awareness, as a warning.

        Any politician that would protect their own perks and bullcrap bureaucracy at the expense of legitimate public services being cut, that are the actual proper functions of municipal, state, and federal governments, should be voted the hell out of office at the earliest possible occasion, regardless of meaningless party affiliation, and replaced with someone who will cut government down to what they SHOULD be doing, which is the OPPOSITE track they are on now.

        Why doesn't government ever say, oh, fine... we just got a compromise, and now the automotive regulations are uniformly stifling across the US, now we can CUT our budget by not having a completely redundant bureaucracy making California-specific rules....

        Maybe they could cut some BUREAUCRATS and PLUSH PERKS FOR OFFICIALS, and other money-wasters, rather than putting the cops, firemen, and teachers on the chopping block.

        Thankfully the people of california have gotten their clue, and have said NO FURTHER, and have rejected that sort of human-sheild-politics that is bullcrap on it's face.

        Federal government had better keep it's eyes on it. Californians as a whole make their state a "blue" state most of the time... think about when the more conservative midwest, mountain-west, Texas, and the south start saying the same thing, more forcefully to the federal government as a whole.

        California is just a few paces ahead of the rest of the country, both on government being out of control, and the people getting damned sick of being put behind the 8-ball by their "representative" government.
      • 6 Years Ago
      California lawmakers are a f^*(ing joke.
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