• Apr 29th 2009 at 10:30AM
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One way to win races is to bury the pedal and never lift. It would appear Nissan may be following the same plan with the development of its GT-R. Rather than sit around and let the car's development go cold, Nissan is continuing to refine its bargain supercar slayer.
Nürburgring watchers have noticed a seemingly base model GT-R lapping the track lately. There's camo on the front and rear fascias – somewhat strange for a car that's been released for public consumption – so the folks at gtrblog took a closer look.

While it may look innocuous enough, the latest GT-R o be snapped on its German vacation has aerodynamic pieces that are subtly different, leading gtrblog to come to the conclusion that this is probably thee 2011 version of Nissan's Godzilla. Thanks for the tip, Jim!

[Source: gtrblog.com]

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      • 6 Years Ago
      You guys have basically admitted:

      A) The transmission/launch control is a cheap hand grenade,

      B) The car looks like the limo for a Skoda Revival Salvation Show,

      C) Imag, the last time I looked, the GT-R had an engine in the front, but was missing the one you said it had in the "mid" location. I suspect one of us is wrong, and it's not...me.

      Also, I'll bet a double Whopper that I can find a brand new ZR-1 for what I'd pay for a GT-R, right now...which makes them the same price class...and the Corvette is faster.

      :shrug: Keep whining, rice boys.
        • 6 Years Ago
        1) No, even at $1mm the Veyron does not have such a LC feature for a reason. Its very simple, but so elusive for you apparently, with AWD you have oh so little relief from wheel spin, where as a rear wheel drive vehicle such as the ZR1 will gleefully smoke the rear tires at 4500 RPM and go absolutely no where.

        2) Form over function, and I like the styling, but I also like the Gumpert Apollo.

        3) You finally get a point.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Crybaby and ignorant troll.

        Thats far from admittance, especially when nothing you have yet said is true.

        A) As ZH pointed out, the reprogrammed LC is covered entirely under warranty, and eliminates wheel hop. It has been tested up to 800hp in stock form with no issues.

        B) WTF?

        C) No, its you. Just because the driver sits behind the engine does not mean a car cannot be mid-engined. Mid-engine means the engine fits entirely between the 2 axles. The GT-Rs engine is called 'front-mid'. The cars you associate with 'mid-engined' are really 'rear-mid-engined', if we're being technical.

        And HELL no you couldn't. There is no markup on the GT-R. You are using 1 year-old-info.

        The cheapest ZR1 I've seen advertised is $122K. The cheapest 'what you can but right now' GT-R is $69K with low miles. The cheapest brand new GT-R is $75K.

        You owe me a double-wopper.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Since other people covered the mid-front distinction (thanks all), I won't rehash it, except to explain to you why it's such a big deal, since you apparently don't much about engine locations:

        With a Porsche Carrera 4 (rear engine AWD) or an Audi or Subaru (front engine), all of the wheels are on one side of the motor, which makes driving them much easier. A transaxle is just located at one end of the motor, which sends power out to the wheels on either side of the motor as well as the wheels at the other end of the car.

        However, to put the engine between the front and rear wheels and maintain AWD requires a pretty trick propshaft system (check out the RS200 for real automotive goodness). That setup is no doubt one of the reasons the GT-R is so heavy, but it does improve weight distribution tremendously, and Nissan seems to have done a pretty impressive job of making it work for them. Personally, I think the true calling of the GT-R is as a rally car, but that's just me....

        Oh, and calling people rice boys because they appreciate cars of different countries and layouts is a sign that you've lost the debate.
        • 6 Years Ago
        "Imag, the last time I looked, the GT-R had an engine in the front, but was missing the one you said it had in the "mid" location."

        Lmao. Pity most people don't get the mid-front and mid-rear distincton, the GT-R's Mid-Front setup is one of the reasons it handles so well.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I would love to see you find a ZR1 even close to msrp, let alone ~80K. The lowest on ebay is 129K. Good luck.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Both of the previous Posters need to get their brains checked for mental insufficiency's.

      As for the car, I'd reckon it to be the V-Spec II or a "Nur" model.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Or perhapse they are simply just trying desperately to build a car that is as fast as they originally claimed it was.

        • 6 Years Ago
        You're probably right!
        • 6 Years Ago
        at least there are no buttons you can't use in the R8 :)
        • 6 Years Ago
        I suppose you're going to say something else stupid next, like power/weight can predict lap times to within 60 seconds?

        Because it can't. 2 cars with the exact same power/weight ratio can be driven hard by HVS and be a solid MINUTE apart.

        Doesn't matter how many times you say it, anyone claiming power/weight is the sole deterimining factor in how fast a car can go around a track is ignorant.
        • 6 Years Ago
        woah, down boy, the GT-R is spectacularly fast. Go drive one. I did. I love the R8 and all, and would own one were In the market for a car like it, but there's no denying the GT-R is fast, and faster than the best Audi currently offers.

        Per AB's assertion it's a 2011 model, I doubt it. Nissan was clear there are going to be a few more editions of the current GT-R, I'd wager it's one of those.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I don't see the difference in the front or rear...
      • 6 Years Ago
      Yeah, I'm going to have to think its a special edition model rather then 2011. I think they'll keep the "base" model the same for 2011.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I don't see a difference
      • 6 Years Ago
      Huh, redesigned front? Already? Hmm that should be nice, Things start to get hot with the LF-A coming at Tokyo this year and with some surprises from Mazda, and oh yeah, the Ferrari F450 will come too.
      • 6 Years Ago
      GT-R's are currently selling at or just below MSRP, even for the newer 2010 models.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I find it humorous someone said "base GTR"!
      • 6 Years Ago
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