• Mar 29, 2009
To be completely fair, the California Air Resources Board never intended to ban black paint -- or any color of paint, for that matter. When devising ways to implement the Cool Cars Initiative, CARB couldn't find any dark paints that passed the 20% solar reflectivity test, which others took to mean that CARB would be banning them. Not so, says a CARB spokesman: "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors." For now, CARB is sticking with the reflective glass portion of the initiative, which would add a reflective clear coat to windows and $31-$50 to the price of a new car, and is taking public comments on the proposed new rules. Thanks for the tip, Jason

[Source: LA Times]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Punks...
      • 5 Years Ago
      [phew]
      I'm glad that this bit of stupidity didn't live to see the light of day.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Let's keep black cars and ban the CARB !
      • 5 Years Ago
      Why not just restrict the amount of fuel an engine can consume. Either displacement restrictions, or little disks, like the ones that go in the shower heads, mandated in fuel injectors.

      Hurry up with the socialism already i'm growing impatient,
      • 5 Years Ago
      You make your roads black but you say black CARS are the problem...which takes up more surface area idiots?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Did you even read anything about why they thought black cars were bad?
      • 5 Years Ago
      I can't understand why anyone would want a black car in california, with all the sun they get. But whatever...
        • 5 Years Ago
        LS2LS7,
        I read the pdf. Yeah, you're right about the mistake being Autoblog's (And every other news outlet's.) I even commented to other people on the first article saying that the ban is not on black paint. You're also right that the CARB issued a clarification because so many people got it wrong. It's not a ban on black paint... not even anything close to it. The way it was reported by nearly all outlets was careless.

        In the end, though, did the report make suggestions about changing the way A/C units are used? (Many compressors cycle on and off even when the interior is not being cooled). It didn't. Did the report mention that having no A/C unit is preferable to having one, from an emissions stand point? Nope. Did the report consider the amount of time that light colored cars might spend "warming up" on cool days that dark cars won't? Nope.

        The report is written with the assumption that all cars have AC units, and that people will be unwilling to sacrifice their own comfort to increase efficiency. Those two assumptions might make one think that people will warm up their highly reflective cars for longer than if their car were not as reflective and a bit warmer inside. That would lead to increased cold-start emissions, which are the worst of all.

        I realize that the CARB is doing the best it can, but there is little evidence in the report that makes me believe that they took into consideration the effect that this legislation would have on us mountain-dwelling California's who's AC use is minimal or non-existent. I don't like legislation which does not consider the exceptions to the rules. The proposed regulations will affect every Californian... including those who will not benefit from the changes.

        You got me being careless, and I apologize for that. You got me, fair and square.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Shoddy reporting on the part of the major news networks doesn't excuse it for anyone else.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Most major news networks were reporting the same "black-painted-car" ban.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Truckee, CA:
        Current Conditions (2:30 pm on Sunday, March29th)
        40*F, 20 mph winds. Wind Chill: 31*F Tonight's forecast low: 20*

        I bet a black car would feel pretty good in Truckee.

        Donner Pass:
        29*F, 50 MPH Winds, 85 MPH Gusts.

        It's not all hot and sunny out here.

        Oh, and on another note, CARB is myopic and self-serving. I bet they didn't even consider the fact that many cars run their A/C compressors regardless of the temp to dehumidify the air... or that some cars can come without A/C units at all.

        To say they weren't serious is the same, to me, as saying they weren't thinking. That makes sense!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Damn right you were just kidding!!!!
      F*cking punks better watch their backs/jobs when it comes to messing with car enthusiasts!
      • 5 Years Ago
      So much hype over nothing.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I guess it was funny while it lasted.
      • 5 Years Ago
      If anything, black cars should be banned because they have to be washed every day!
        • 5 Years Ago
        HAHA agreed!
        • 5 Years Ago
        totally agree

        one sunny day, I washed this black SOB for four bloody hours, which still didnt appear to be nice. Pissed off at last, I decided to get some sleep for next day. Do you know what happened that night? It snowed f***** 10 inches
      • 5 Years Ago
      So, if you ran the air conditioning off (dark) solar panels mounted on your roof, would the net result be good for the environments or not?
      • 5 Years Ago
      this is why i'm on a low CARB diet.
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