Autoline on Autoblog with John McElroy
BREAKTHROUGH AUDIO SYSTEM, ALL THANKS TO SOFTWARE
I just experienced one of the most amazing sound systems that that I ever heard in a car. What makes it so amazing is that it doesn't use a power booster, or equalizer, or better speakers, or anything like that. Instead, it's all done with software.
The inventor of this system is a guy named Tony Bongiovi, a brilliant recording engineer who's worked with a lot of the biggest names in music business: Aerosmith, Talking Heads, the Ramones, and Gloria Gaynor, to name a few. He also launched the career of his second cousin, Jon Bonjovi. He got his start back in the mid-1960s as a 17-year-old high school student from New Jersey who managed to wrangle his way into Motown Records as a recording engineer. That is a story unto itself but too long to recount here.
To hear Tony tell it, he used to drive around a lot of sub-compact rental cars and was always disappointed they did not come with better sound systems. So he set to work to figure out a way to improve the standard radio in the car to make it sound like a premium system. But he knew he had to do it in a low-cost way.
John McElroy is host of the TV program "Autoline Detroit" and daily web video "Autoline Daily". Every week he brings his unique insights as an auto industry insider to Autoblog readers.
As long as a radio has a digital signal processing (DSP) chip in it, Tony can work his magic on it. All you have to do is download his software into that chip and it miraculously makes any sound system instantly sound a whole lot better. I'm not an audiophile, but even I can hear the difference, and what a difference it makes!
I fully admit that I'm in way over my head in trying to describe how the system works, but here's how Tony explained it to me. Basically, he's using digital power to aggressively modify the program material (music). He takes apart the frequency response characteristics, and processes it by modulating and modifying the signal to make it louder. Bongiovi says this leaves more "headroom" to play with the signal, because if you try to equalize the sound you run out of room in the amplifier or the speakers.
Bongiovi says that while there are some terrific premium sound systems in cars today, they achieved their premium sound with high-end hardware. He claims that no one has ever touched the source material before to get a premium sound.
But to get the full effects of his system he has to "profile" each model of car. That means he has to get in a car and listen to all types of different music from all different eras to make sure that any kind of source material will sound great. He says it takes six hours a day, five days a week, (and joking adds) that it takes two cases of beer to profile each car. That's a lot of beer. Tony has already profiled 250 cars! Once a car is profiled it's a simple matter to download the software into the DSP chip in the radio.
There are huge advantages for automakers to use Bongiovi's system. He wants $10 a car for an automaker to use his system, but that can be marked up to $400 a car at retail for a mid-premium system. As good as his system is, he admits that premium sound systems are still going to sound better simply because they have better hardware. Of course, there's nothing preventing anyone from using his software in one of those high-end systems.
Tony is a proud American and wanted to sell his system to the Big Three to gain a competitive advantage. At first they essentially told him to get lost, but now they're starting to come around. Unfortunately, in the interim another automaker jumped into the void. While I'm sworn to secrecy as to who that is, I can tell you it's one of the big Japanese car companies. And you'll see it in a new vehicle coming out later this year.
But if you're really interested, it's already available in the aftermarket as the JVC KD-S100 Mobile Entertainment system. If you get a chance, check it out, it is truly a transformational technology.
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I just experienced one of the most amazing sound systems that that I ever heard in a car. What makes it so amazing is that it doesn't use a power booster, or equalizer, or better speakers, or anything like that. Instead, it's all done with software.The inventor of this system is a guy named Tony Bongiovi, a brilliant recording engineer who's worked with a lot of the biggest names in music business: Aerosmith, Talking Heads, the Ramones, and Gloria Gaynor, to name a few. He also launched the career of his second cousin, Jon Bonjovi. He got his start back in the mid-1960s as a 17-year-old high school student from New Jersey who managed to wrangle his way into Motown Records as a recording engineer. That is a story unto itself but too long to recount here.
To hear Tony tell it, he used to drive around a lot of sub-compact rental cars and was always disappointed they did not come with better sound systems. So he set to work to figure out a way to improve the standard radio in the car to make it sound like a premium system. But he knew he had to do it in a low-cost way.
John McElroy is host of the TV program "Autoline Detroit" and daily web video "Autoline Daily". Every week he brings his unique insights as an auto industry insider to Autoblog readers.
As long as a radio has a digital signal processing (DSP) chip in it, Tony can work his magic on it. All you have to do is download his software into that chip and it miraculously makes any sound system instantly sound a whole lot better. I'm not an audiophile, but even I can hear the difference, and what a difference it makes!
I fully admit that I'm in way over my head in trying to describe how the system works, but here's how Tony explained it to me. Basically, he's using digital power to aggressively modify the program material (music). He takes apart the frequency response characteristics, and processes it by modulating and modifying the signal to make it louder. Bongiovi says this leaves more "headroom" to play with the signal, because if you try to equalize the sound you run out of room in the amplifier or the speakers.
As long as a radio has a digital signal processing (DSP) chip in it, Tony can work his magic on it.
Since a car is sort of like a small room, there's not enough room to reproduce the dynamics of the sound the way the artist wanted it to be heard. So, he says, you have to modify the sound before you can play it in a car, otherwise it will exceed the design limitations of the speakers. So he uses the DSP chip to constantly modify and manipulate the sound. And by using acoustic coupling, he makes all the bass sounds respond in a way that makes it sound like the system has a subwoofer.Bongiovi says that while there are some terrific premium sound systems in cars today, they achieved their premium sound with high-end hardware. He claims that no one has ever touched the source material before to get a premium sound.
But to get the full effects of his system he has to "profile" each model of car. That means he has to get in a car and listen to all types of different music from all different eras to make sure that any kind of source material will sound great. He says it takes six hours a day, five days a week, (and joking adds) that it takes two cases of beer to profile each car. That's a lot of beer. Tony has already profiled 250 cars! Once a car is profiled it's a simple matter to download the software into the DSP chip in the radio.
There are huge advantages for automakers to use Bongiovi's system. He wants $10 a car for an automaker to use his system, but that can be marked up to $400 a car at retail for a mid-premium system. As good as his system is, he admits that premium sound systems are still going to sound better simply because they have better hardware. Of course, there's nothing preventing anyone from using his software in one of those high-end systems.
It's one of the big Japanese car companies. And you'll see it in a new vehicle coming out later this year.
But his system also allows automakers to save space, and cut cost and weight. Speakers have big heavy magnets on them and Bongiovi's system means a car can use smaller speakers with lighter magnets. Those speakers also save valuable "real estate" inside a car, something that interior packaging engineers are always fighting over.Tony is a proud American and wanted to sell his system to the Big Three to gain a competitive advantage. At first they essentially told him to get lost, but now they're starting to come around. Unfortunately, in the interim another automaker jumped into the void. While I'm sworn to secrecy as to who that is, I can tell you it's one of the big Japanese car companies. And you'll see it in a new vehicle coming out later this year.
But if you're really interested, it's already available in the aftermarket as the JVC KD-S100 Mobile Entertainment system. If you get a chance, check it out, it is truly a transformational technology.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Taglane 7:17PM (3/27/2009)
That's cool. I can't wait to hear it in real- I'll go check it out. That's too bad the B3 rejected him. Maybe they can make some deal later in the future...
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superman211 7:33PM (3/27/2009)
He looks like an idiot!
BigWill 7:21PM (3/27/2009)
That's nice, but putting in speakers that cost more than $3 ea and not programming the head to kill bass - because that would, of course, distort the $3 speakers - would be nicer.
Other curious stuff:
1) The reviews pretty much say the virtual subwoofer doesn't quite cut it
2) JVC put out a press release 2 years ago saying they had a 5 year exclusive on the technology, so what happened?
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naggs 8:10PM (3/28/2009)
sounds like the guy who they are licensing it from reserved some rights
BigWill 10:09PM (3/28/2009)
Considering the JVC unit has been dead and they hasn't done anything else with the tech, I'd say JVC abandoned their deal. I can't imagine JVC would be happy with selling a $700 head unit while this guy sells to OEMs at $10 a pop.
dc11 7:41PM (3/27/2009)
wait wait wait wait WAIT..... so youre telling me, it makes a normal paper cone system sound better than a BOSE???? no way!
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chconline 12:44PM (3/28/2009)
Almost anything sounds better than Bose.
JB 8:17PM (3/27/2009)
No offense, John, but you pronounced 'Hyundai', 'Hyun-die'(pronounced Hyun-day like Sunday) today on your daily Autoline installation. Unacceptable.
Such a mistake calls into question your knowledge about so many other things. Hyundai (like Sunday) is the world's 6th largest automaker, and now outselling companies like Hunda....errr..Honda.
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jm99 4:59PM (3/30/2009)
Actually, you are the one that's wrong. I studied Korean for a semester in college, and the proper pronunciation of Hyundai is exactly how John said it. I know this because we studied that word specifically in class when trying to get used to the differences between Korean and English pronunciation/enunciation (I'm from the US).
MajorGeek 8:33PM (3/27/2009)
Yeah, my 1987 Grand National has "Concert Sound". Heard it all before. Still waiting for a cheap, good sounding factory system, especially if you want to turn it up.
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saabyurk 8:42PM (3/27/2009)
Sounds like this does for sound systems what lookup tables (LUTs) and tone reproduction curves (TRCs) do for enterprise-level color laser printers.
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Jim 8:52PM (3/27/2009)
Bongiovi's been trying to push his "tech" for several years. At my last job he came in with a demo vehicle, and I came away with three things:
1) what he showed was nothing that we weren't already doing with the equalization functions of the DSP, and
2) the demo car he brought sounded horrible; squawking midrange and spitting tweeters were the most notable.
3) the presentation showed a fundamental lack of understanding about how speakers work.
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innoc3nt 8:23PM (3/29/2009)
Agreed. There's only so much software can do. Equalizers, SRS, WOW, all been done before. There's no replacement for better hardware.
Granted, I haven't heard this, but I'm very skeptical.
Swede 9:19PM (3/27/2009)
Sooo it's basically what Creative are doing with their X-Fi...?
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Kabayo 10:03PM (3/27/2009)
So, the JVC KD-S100 is not available through competitive sources, but only at the ripoff price of $699 and up, even though really nice car stereos now sell in the $200 range, and the royalty on this new technology is $10?
Screw this.
Kabayo
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Jim 8:02AM (3/28/2009)
I think McElroy is drinking the same cool-aid as Tony Bongiovi. Cheap speakers will not perform no matter what is done to the source of the music, period, done, finis.
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HJC 2 8:55AM (3/28/2009)
Is it April 1 ??????????
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Eidolon 10:35AM (3/28/2009)
"Bongiovi says this leaves more 'headroom' to play with the signal, because if you try to equalize the sound you run out of room in the amplifier or the speakers."
I love it. Equalization is basically all a Digital Signal Processing chip can do anyway! Yes, you can resample the signal or play it back on top of itself for delay and the like. But you're still very limited in what you can do because a DSP, by nature, cannot add anything to the signal that is not already there.
So if you're trying to make a stock system with a limited amp and speaker set sound better, what you're likely going to try to do is add some effects, and pump up the frequency ranges that the speakers can play. It's already been proven that in listening tests, users will peg a slightly louder signal as being "better" than the unmodified but quieter one. As for his "virtual sub", I'm willing to bet that he tries to "remap" the low-end signals into a higher frequency space to try to get a "pop" or something for where the bass hits. I doubt the result is very impressive.
To put it bluntly, unless the Big Three intend to use this tech in something on the very low end of their range, putting it into their cars will only /increase/ the perception of chintzy construction they've been lambasted for for the past two decades.
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Jim 12:17PM (3/28/2009)
very good post, sir.
"As for his "virtual sub", I'm willing to bet that he tries to "remap" the low-end signals into a higher frequency space to try to get a "pop" or something for where the bass hits. I doubt the result is very impressive."
not to mention it's been tried many times. BBE, MediaXpander, DHE, etc. I suppose to someone who doesn't really care about audio, they might sound "Good," but I've never been impressed by any of them.
Eidolon 12:33PM (3/28/2009)
"I suppose to someone who doesn't really care about audio, they might sound 'Good,' but I've never been impressed by any of them."
Which is precisely the issue. To those who care about audio, toying with the signal to try to make it sound good will not work. To those who don't care, it might work. Add the hardware to make it sound good, though, and you're more likely to impress both groups.