• Mar 11, 2009
Audi R4 renderings - Click above to enlarge

Speculation that Audi will debut a new mid-engine model called the R4 has been rampant for at least the past two years. Despite the fact that Audi made it clear one year ago that the R4 was not in their product plans, the talk continues. In addition to the rumors, we now have some rendered speculation on what the R4 might look like thanks to Autocar Czech Republic magazine freelancer Jan Kamenistiak.

It's not exactly known where the mid-engine R4 would fit in Audi's model lineup, with some placing it above the TT and others below. Others have it sharing a platform with a possible production version of the Volkswagen BlueSport Concept that debuted at this year's Detroit Auto Show. Known for their ability to skin a car eight different ways and convince the public that they're buying something totally unique, Audi would likely draw heavily from the VW/Audi parts bin for the R4's power- and drivetrain bits, as there are plenty of worthy four-cylinder engines – both gas and diesel – and dual clutch transmissions to choose from.

Until official word comes from Audi, however, that the R4 is actually in the works, we'll still consider all this talk nothing more than speculation.



[Source: Autocar Czech]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      The rear is a little more BMW than Audi but otherwise it looks great.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I would love the idea of a mid-engined car under $30k.

      Audi should show GM what the Fiero could have been if the vision were uniform and the mission carried out correctly.

      Knowing it were done by Audi, we'd know this:
      It would be absolutely gorgeous.
      The interior would be to die for.
      The engines would rev high.
      It would be built on a spaceframe (like the Fiero was)
      It would be all wheel drive (hopefully rear biased)

      Where GM failed with the Fiero was:
      Unclear vision (the car was branded as a "commuter car" to get it past the bean counters, but was neither a good commuter, nor a good performance car (until '88) )
      The V6 version came out later
      GM needed 4 years to finally issue a recall for mistakes in the first model year. (hence people thinking to this day that all Fieros burn)
      Good options like powersteering were shelved from production
      Aluminum bodies never made it past prototype (that's where Audi would win - They know aluminum)
      When they finally got the car right in '88, they shelved the project and didn't even make a big deal about the completely new suspension.
      They never offered high power versions in fear of killing the Corvette.
      GM is lousy at pr and Fieros will be forever known as "kit car donors".
      They never built the '90 Fiero (instead recycling the design for Camaros)
      • 5 Years Ago
      but then what would happen to the s5
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ Mr_Pie,

        The S5/A5 seat four. This only seats 2. There's room for this in the lineup, likely replacing the TT (I would've thought the person who rendered this would have taken that into account).
        • 5 Years Ago
        But the S5 is a large sports coupe. This is something else entirely.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Thinking about this a bit more, while this R4 would obviously sit above the TT, but what would fit under the R8 ?... I doubt this model could stretch that price span on it's own.

      How about an R6, to compete with BMW'S 6 series, and a hard-top convertible variant to take on Mercedes SL sitting under the R8 ?

      I wouldn't be surprised if Porsche borrowed the R8 platform and made a more affordable version of there much adored Carrera GT.

      With Porsche now controlling the VW-Audi group I think we are going to see alot more platform sharing in the coming years... the Bentley GT/Flying Spur sharing the Panamera AWD platform makes sense, and maybe even finding new cars to build on the Veyron platform perhaps.

      M.
      • 5 Years Ago
      *droool* since the S2000 is going away the Miata/MX5 is too "girly" and the Solstice/Sky are crap (and might not be around much longer) this would the nicest "attainable" midengine roadster on the market... Boxster not excluded.

      one thing,
      GIVE IT A REAL MANUAL!

      To: College Kid: Spot on... Every one of their cars are gorgeous.
      • 5 Years Ago
      It would be a great car to have, but with the A5 and TT, I don't think I would buy an R4.
        • 5 Years Ago
        The R4 should replace the TT.

        The TT is not the sports car that it looks like, and costs like, it is a FWD-biased 2+2. TT and A3 have transverse Quattro, which isn't like longitudinal Quattro, it is basically re-badged Haldex/4-motion.

        Audi has a better 2+2 in the A5/S5. VW has a more affordable 2+2 FWD-biased car, the modern Beetle with basically the same dynamics as the current TT.

        The TT, for what it costs, should be a 2-seat sports car, and mid-engined RWD/AWD layout would do wonders for handling, over a front-heavy puller.

        Not in addition to TT, instead-of TT.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Granted Porsche may hold them back, but the R8 has already proven that, short of sheer grunt compared to the Turbo/GT2, it's every bit as good a car as the 911 is.

      The R4 could replace the TT and push a tad upmarket to compete with the Boxter/Caymen, primarily. Offer the 265 hp turbo-4 and 340-ish hp turbo-5. Bamo, an excellent choice.

      It's not that difficult, Audi.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Further complicating the value equation: more mundane small SUVs like the Volkswagen Tiguan and high-level versions of the Subaru Forester and Toyota RAV4 are very well-rounded and cost thousands of dollars less than the zootier nameplates.

      Enter the Audi Q5. Fashionably late to the party (or this market segment), the Q5 is based on Audi’s A4 sedan. Our typically equipped Q5 cost $42,800 including the Premium Plus package, a lot of money considering we didn’t get navigation. But putting the high price aside, how does the Q5 do at balancing utility, luxury, and sport? Let’s check the logbook:
      • 5 Years Ago
      This model would slot nicely in between the TT and R8.

      As others have said, sharing the new Boxster platform makes sense.

      It wouldn't directly compete with the ultra sporty Boxster and steal Porsche sales, it would be another stealth Audi with safe predictable Quattro handling and stella performance.

      M.
      • 5 Years Ago
      I could swear a few months ago I heard of an Audi R3 that was suppossed to REPLACE the TT, but I haven't heard of it since...

      I will agree that this could be the more up-market version of the BlueSport, or just the production version - whatever it is, I like it.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Yes, please.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Oh yes please make/allow this to happen Audi/Porsche. Please. I want. Badly.