• Jan 22, 2009
You can't please everybody. Customers complain that the current BMW 1 Series is too small, while others say it's too heavy. Some want it to offer more space, while others want it to be sportier. You can't please everybody, but BMW is evidently going to try.

Although the next version of the compact 1 Series is expected, as most new models are, to grow in size, BMW is also reportedly planning a lightweight two-door sport model. Referred to in the interim as the 1 Series Super Sport (to avoid confusion with the original mid-engine M1 exotic), the hot 1 would be a spiritual successor to the '60s-era 2002 (pictured above) and the original '80s-era M3. Motivation could be provided by a turbo- or supercharged four-cylinder driving as much as 300 horsepower through a dual-clutch gearbox, coupled with all the electronic bells and whistles of modern day BMWs for a 0-60 sprint in five seconds flat. With those kind of stats, we hope this is one of those rumors that turns out to be true.

[Source: AutoBild via Motor Authority]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      The 1 series in the U.S. is too heavy and too expensive. Why is it so difficult for BMW to bring us a 4 cylinder moderately priced 1 series? Why would you want to buy a 1 when the 3 is only a few thousand dollars away?....The super sport idea is what they should have done in the first place. I for one never bought into the BMW marketing of this car as the spiritual successor to the 2002; not with a big 6 under the hood...
      • 6 Years Ago
      No way they'll make it faster than the other (presumably more expensive) M cars in the BMW lineup. It may end up being lighter than the normal car but I doubt it will have much more power.
      • 6 Years Ago

      Just give me a well restored classic BMW 2002.
      • 6 Years Ago
      So they are going to do all this work and come out with a 5 second car - don't they have that already without the stripes?? The problem is that the 135i even as heavy as it is, is already a 5 second car - if they make it any faster, no one will buy an M3, so there isn't much point for the whole thing unless they just make it a CSL and make it light and optionless, but really damn fast around a track - just like an original tii!
        • 6 Years Ago
        Hopefully what all automakers are catching on to now is what the head at the AMG division at MB said is that the horsepower wars are over. We need to shed some lbs here. If they can get the same preformance in a smaller and lighter car the 0-60 times will drop. However they will go up when they put a 4 banger in the bimmer.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I wish they could ditch the "all the electronic bells and whistles" altogether. I'd buy a 4 cylinder 1 series without any of these value-added pieces and cloth seats if they could just offer one. I don't need a flappy gearbox, I don't want any electronics other than an Ipod connection, and it must have sport seats and suspension. I understand BMW wants to stay upmarket, but a car like this isn't going to excite many buyers so it would keep the brand exclusive.

      *sigh*
      • 6 Years Ago
      Give me the Turbo in the photo.... or a nice tii, or a nice e30 M3, or a nice e30 325is, or an e36 M3. Give me cloth Ricaro sport seats like came in the e30s and light-wieght e36 M3s.

      Navigation? Power seats? Climate Control? Flappy-paddle tranny? No thanks.

      Traction Control... make it on-off switchable.

      Air bags, ABS, side-protection, crumple zones... I guess those have to be in new cars.
      • 6 Years Ago
      BMW is a joke these days - design-wise, you can literally walk into a shop and ask for 14, 15 or 16 feet of BMW. Audi is apparently following the same path.

      14 feet, sir? Here's your Series 1 for you. Ja, herr Herman, das ist A3 fur dich.

      The cars are all the same, the only differences are few inches, horizontally and/or vertically. You can make a car that's distinctly YOUR BRAND's car and has your corporate face, but you don't have to use a copier set for 75 or 125%.

      You just need to be smart.
      Elux Troxl
      • 6 Years Ago
      Hey your photo isn't just a 2002 - it's a photo of the first turbo production car ever.
        • 6 Years Ago
        @Elux Troxl
        Hate to break it to you, but GM had BMW by about 12 years.

        First Production Turbocharged car goes to: the 1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire, with it's methanol injected 215. 9,607 were built, also beating the 02 Turbo's production numbers.

        It was followed by the Corvair Turbo, the second turbocharged car
      • 6 Years Ago
      So the 1 series supersport would be slower than the current 135, brilliant!

      How about a mild make-over to get rid of the ugly front (puton teh 335i headlights and fascia) make a small chnage so it doesn't look like a pot-bellied pig then ditch the moonroof, make the roof out of CF and then add about 250lbs of lightness as well as a LSD.

      Reader's digest version:
      - Make it prettier
      - drop 250lbs by using CF and Aluminum and ditching some extras like the moonroof.
      - add a LSD
      - up the boost so its putting out 340hp
      • 6 Years Ago
      If you want more space buy a 3 or 5. If you want a car that you strap on and drive, buy the 1. The new 1 needs to be simpler, lighter, and sportier.



        • 6 Years Ago
        The driving characteristics of the 135i are amazing, even considering the price (its comparable to the same-price Mitsu Evo). The 335i is simply not as fun to drive as a 135i. If it came in hatchback form, like the 1ers in Europe, I'd have been sold a long time ago.
        • 6 Years Ago
        @chase, you have no idea what you are talking about. Those hatches are FUGLY. I'd easily give up their practicality for the better looking 1-coupe.
        • 6 Years Ago
        It does 0-60 in 4.6 sec what more do you want form a 3.0L I6?
        Carlos
        • 6 Years Ago
        Agreed, I would love to see BMW create a light weight 300 hp four banger. Talk about a beautiful combo. That would be insane.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Right on, sir. Why doesn't BMW create a horizontal pricing tier for the 1-series? The 3-series could be their mainstream sedan, while only the hardcore need apply for the 1-series. Sort of like the Lexus ES/IS models, except much more pronounced. I know several BMW CCA members that would gladly pay current 3-series money for a true modern successor to the 2002 and E30.

        It would be sad to finally see the 3 complete the transition to sporty German Buick. Then again, the 3 is enough of a shadow of its former self as it is.
      • 6 Years Ago
      "Although the next version of the compact 1 Series is expected, as most new models are, to grow in size" - Why is this? Why do 2nd Gen's always have to grow in size? I don't like it. xB, IS300, both took bad turns (IMHO) in their kin. Then the car companies have to go and stick a car with out the name/history under it to replace the once compact line. Ya, the 1-series is supposed to be a successor to the 2002... but the term "1-series" has no history. The 3-series has a great past as their small sporty car, whats wrong with keeping it that way?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Let's start with making the current 1-Series a bit cheaper!! 34k CND to start, and that's before you give it a paint job or some nice wheels.
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