• Dec 17th 2008 at 10:27AM
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Bidding for the first retail production 2010 Chevy Camaro is set to begin in Prime Time on Saturday, January 17, 2009 at the Barret-Jackson auction in Scottsdale, Arizona. A similar move was made last year when the first production Corvette ZR1 managed to rake in an astounding one-million dollars. Like that ZR1, all proceeds will be given to charity, in this case, the American Heart Association, so anything over the car's list MSRP will be tax deductible, which is nice.

Regular production of Chevy's new pony car won't begin until a month after the auction takes place, so the Camaro on display in Scottsdale won't be the actual unit being bid on. We're still awaiting official details, like if the Camaro – lot number 1316 for those interested in bidding (go for it, it's for charity!) – is a base model (seems unlikely) or a fully loaded SS model, complete with a 422-hp small block V8. Of course, the big question is how much it'll bring, and we'll be sure to have that figure for you as soon as the gavel falls.

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      • 6 Years Ago
      What charity will money go to, the Wagoner Fund?
        • 6 Years Ago

        Can't you read?

        "Like that ZR1, all proceeds will be given to charity, in this case, the American Heart Association, so anything over the car's list MSRP will be tax deductible, which is nice."

        Too many GM haters nowadays.

        • 6 Years Ago
        Unemployed auto workers would have been a good one (charity).
        • 6 Years Ago
        Don't mind this loser. A quick check of his comments will reveal that 99% of them are negative regardless of the subject matter. Obviously being a brainless sea urchin is a miserable existence. Perhaps the lack of light is responsible for the failure to impart intelligence and reason.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Pushrod v-8's are going to die. End of story.

      They where a great motor. Easy to work on, upgrade, and get good reliable results from... But they are old technology

      Motors need to be more flexible. Have the ability to produce loads of power while still giving acceptable fueld economy while cruising.

      It has already been proven Direct Injection can help this process immensly (sp?) along with multiple valves per cylinder. With Cafe standards rising, these things will need to be implimented into modern v-8's.

      My 2008 Mazdaspeed3 produced 285.7 horse power and 291.3 ft/lb's at the front wheels with 2.3liters of direct injected turbo charged four cylinder. Sure it may be called "rice", but it creates alot more power per cubic inch then any push rod can make

      The camaro, challenger, and mustang are all viable vehicles. Their edgy looks and performace will always help them sell. I see GM designing a new dual overhead cam v-8 in the near future to help with their Cafe ratings. Some say the v-8 will die, but Speedzzter is right, there will always be a market for v-8's, the challenge is making them fuel efficent.

      Can someone say cold combustion? :) :)
        • 6 Years Ago
        Forgot to add, Chrysler is apparently up to the Challenge. The 5.7L HEMI in the 4000lb Challenger is pretty damn efficient. Lets compare to GM's 3.6L GDI DOHC V6 (a much lauded engine).
        2009 Challenger R/T 6sp manual
        ~4000lb curb weight
        0-60 in ~5.3s, high 13's in the 1/4.
        16/25 EPA on 87 octane

        2009 Cadillac CTS 6sp manual
        300hp/laughable torque
        ~4000lb curb weight
        0-60 in ~6.0s, 14's in the 1/4
        17/26 EPA on 87 ocatane

        All those cams, smaller displacement, GDI, etc only net another 1mpg over the pushrod V8 that annihilates it in performance?

        Also the next gen Chevrolet Small Block will be designed to use the existing pushrod valvetrain or use DOHC. That's in addition to cylinder deactivation, VVT, GDI, and possibly HCCI.
      • 6 Years Ago
      The Camaro is a nice car in person. I'm sure someone will pay top dollar.

      I wonder how the collector car market will hold up in this recession. The muscle car market seems in a bit of a bubble of late.

      Collector car bubbles in past decades have deflated mercilessly.
      • 6 Years Ago
      This is gonna bring in a load of cash. It's great it's going to a good cause.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Tristan is, of course, wrong about Challenger. Challenger is based on a shortened Charger platform and has all of the chassis features that snobs and techophiles expect in a "modern" performance car (IRS, ABS, huge 4-wheel disc brakes).

      Mustang has all of these things too, save IRS. However, given Mustang's competition successes in international road racing, IRS is clearly unnecessary (and unwanted in most forms of grassroots motorsports).

      Both Camaro and Challenger, however, use 2-valve pushrod engines in their highest perfomance forms with rather low "power densities." Only Mustang offers a multi-valve V8 (albeit not yet optimized with all of the latest efficiency technologies to maximize "power density" and off-peak fuel efficiency).
      • 6 Years Ago
      so does that mean that Jay Leno was the winning bidder on the ZR1? He seems to indicate that he has the very first one in his latest Jay's Garage video.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Dave Ressler was the winning bidder of ZR1 No. 001 at Barrett-Jackson. Jay owns the "other" ZR1 No. 001.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Whoa, the new Camaro has been around for so long I am wondering if there will be a styling refresh before it actually goes on sale.
      • 6 Years Ago

      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm glad you can read specs there Frylock

      First all, To make 1,000 HP from a twin turbo LS3, requires alot more time, energy, and race-quality parts than ANY manufacture will put into a production vehical. My speed has the turbo 4 pot from factory and all i did was put an intake, TBE, and bypass valve on it.

      Those 2 engines you chose (the v-6 and v-8) are like comparing apples to oranges. Two different designs totally. Now if you replaced that old school pushrod technology in the 5.7L hemi you so love, then I guarentee you will be able to incease horse power numbers along with achieving better fueld economy. Combine that with Variable valve timing, and you have a recipe for sucess.

      also, that "laughable" 1mpg difference in efficency between the 2 different engines and cars you compared adds to a considerable amount of fuel in 10,000 miles, add that fuel savings to the total amount of vehicles sold and you just completed simple math.

      Finally, I sure to hell hope an SS Camaro, With double the amount of cylinders of my car along with an extra 100+ HP to move that extra weight around, would woop my car. I have walked Mustang GT's (but got smoked by a Mach1), so I know a I4 can't run with the big boys.

      I could go on all day, But in the end, my personal believe is Pushrod v-8's are going the path of the do-do bird. Once DOHC, DI, and VVT all get worked into V-8's, their legendary torque will still be around, but with the added bonus of meeting CAFE standards.

      And once cold combustion actually becomes viable ( it doesn't operate well under WOT or immediatly after a cold start at this point), then hot combustion engines will become the next push-rods.
        • 6 Years Ago
        The HEMI already has VVT.

        Torque comes from one thing and one thing only: displacement. And the best way to get fuel economy out of a large displacement engine is a pushrod valvetrain. Replacing a 320hp 5.3L pushrod V8 with a say 320hp 4.2L DOHC V8 just gives you a peakier motor with less torque and mostly equivalent fuel economy.

        Case in point, look at the Hyundai Genesis's 375hp 4.6L DOHC Tau V8, which is by and large the most efficient DOHC V8 on the market. The Dodge Charger's 375hp Pushrod HEMI makes the same horsepower, far more torque, and gets the same fuel economy, despite being down a gear in the transmission (if the Charger had a 6sp auto it'd get 17/26). The HEMI's torque advantage makes it a much more effective performance engine and offers far more low RPM punch. The Charger does it all on 87 octane too, not sure if the Genesis is 87 or 92. Also note that for some reason the 5.7L in the LX cars is detuned (it makes 390hp in the Ram).

        Horsepower is a function of RPMs and torque. DOHC's key advantage comes from its ability to rev to higher engine speeds. It also has a smoother idle. That's it. Otherwise its far more expensive and less reliable. Lets say you convert a 5.7L HEMI to DOHC. You will gain very little unless you modify the redline. Again I'd like to compare the 5.7 HEMI in the Ram to the 5.7 DOHC in the Tundra. Same displacement, similar redlines and whaddya know? Similar horsepower.

        I'm not arguing that DOHC motors are useless, just that pushrod engines have their advantages as well. Cheap reliable power being the key one.

        Fuel economy is a function of RPMs and displacement. Making a pushrod engine DOHC (leaving the redline alone) will make it more powerful at the cost of more fuel used and reliability

        And overhead cam engines are chronologically older than overhead valve engines.
        • 6 Years Ago
        EDIT: NOT leaving the redline alone.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Is it true that B-J makes the buyer of the car charity auctions pay the buyers fee anyway? If that's the case, that is really pretty cheap.
      • 6 Years Ago
      This is gonna end up in the same place as ZR1 No.1.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Yes, that is very, very, very confusing... I remember somebody (not Jay) buying No.1 for a million bucks but in Jay Leno's garage he shows off his No.1 ZR1... But still, the No.1 Camaro probably will end up joining one of those ZR1s, unless Torrent hits the jackpot.
      • 6 Years Ago
      the article forgot to say "First and last"...
      I have the gut feeling the fed's are going to be telling GM to drop production of all vehicles like this or zippo 'bailout money'.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Not if 10,000 people already have pre-ordered the Camaro.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Camaro will be safe. They have invested all the money in it now. As long as it is selling which it looks like it will they will build it. Besides it will be built in Oshawa Ontario and the government here has already commited to a financial bailout. If they cancelled the Camaro they would lose that money. They are already in the process of closing Oshawa truck after getting government money which caused an uproar. I don't think they want to rock the boat this time.
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