• Nov 14th 2008 at 7:59PM
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When Mike Levine at Pickuptrucks.com sets his mind to something, it gets done in a big way. Witness last year's 2007 Heavy-Duty Diesel Truck Shootout. This year he's back with a comparison test that bests his previous effort not only in size and scope, but also in relevance. For 2008 he has assembled every player in the half-ton truck segment, including brand new 2009 models of the Ford F-150, Dodge Ram, Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra, Nissan Titan and a 2008 Toyota Tundra. Despite the sagging economy, Americans still love us some trucks, and we've never encountered a more thorough comparison of their performance, towing abilities and fuel economy than what Mike has published at Pickuptrucks.com. Consider it the bible of half-ton pickup comparison shopping and have it pre-loaded on your iPhone when you start visiting dealerships.

We're not going to tell you which pickup won, but we will say that it was remarkable to learn how varied are the targets at which each of these trucks is aiming. Some were great for one task while failing miserably at another, and the winner was the one that performed well the most often. Click the source link below to check out the Pickuptrucks.com 2008 Half-Ton Shootout.

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      • 6 Years Ago
      No one cared to mention that the Tundra nabbed third place. It beat the Sierra and the new Ram. Which is surprising, considering that most of you were bashing it as the "worst truck in the market." I'm not for the Tundra...hell, I'm not for any pickup trunk unless you genuinely need one (ie. you work construction, etc.), but to some of you; this must be an eye opener, don't let preconceptions affect your point of view.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Don't be shocked. They used a SR5 which is not the same trim level as the other trucks. A Limited would have scored a couple more points and the Tundra has trailer sway control. In their flawed test the trailer sway control alone pushes it to second and the knocks for interior would surely push it past the f150.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Nobody mentioned it because nobody cares. :)
        • 6 Years Ago
        What's really surprising is that the Sierra got such a low score in comparison to the Silverado that the Tundra could slot between them.

        Your arguments are based on the idea that there is one overreaching quality all trucks should ascribe to. There isn't. On Driving Impressions, Toyota ranked dead last. It had no trailer brakes, nor trailer sway control. In the majority of features, Toyota ranked near or at the bottom of the pack.

        The only reason the Tundra came in above the Ram and Sierra is because it could tow more, and is maybe one or two MPG more fuel-efficient. Ram and Sierra had it beat in points in the Driving Impressions category (12 Dodge, 9 GMC, 5 Toyota), Features (20 Dodge, 16 GMC, 14 Toyota).

        None of these change its less-than-the-rest safety scores, questionable reliability, questionable drivetrain, (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-05-29-tundra_N.htm), questionable camshaft (http://www.blog.automotiveaddicts.com/oh-snap-yes-the-toyota-tundra-camshaft) or questionable interior, and sorry, if I were going to tow something I would rather the truck have trailer brakes and a trailer sway control system. Since GMC, Chevy and Ford are the only ones with any kind of towing brake system like this, if I had to buy a fullsize truck for towing I wouldn't choose any of the others.

        So no, I don't think a third-place finish means that Tundra's detractors are wrong. It's a decent truck, but it doesn't have what it takes to unseat Ford, Chevy or even Dodge. Those buyers will continue to buy what they know, and I don't blame them.
      • 6 Years Ago
      if you look at YTD, GM is smoking Fords butt...
      Ford F-series 436,022

      Silverado + Sierra 402,191+145,258= 647,258
        • 6 Years Ago
        Thats only 547K trucks actually. 402K+145K = 547.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Anyone else find it odd that the GMC scored so much lower then the Chevy. The exact same truck...
      • 6 Years Ago
      I love trucks, but I've never been a full size truck guy (except for the last gen Lightning, and that wasn't a real truck)... maybe that's why I like the Titan. I know it's not as good as the others at hauling and other trucky stuff but it looks a lot smaller. I drove one & it feels more car like & responsive than other trucks I've driven... these guys seem to think the same thing (even though the numbers tell a different story) and it's good off-road. It doesn't do too badly in this crowd I think... especially considering it's 5 years old now & it was Nissan's first stab at the full size truck segment. It'd be enough for my needs (hauling my quads & an occasional track slut). And I love the floor shifter... I really HATE column shifters. lol

      I've been considering getting a truck for a while now, but it kinda sounds like I don't need a full size truck anyways, doesn't it? I'd probably be better off in a Tacoma or Frontier...
      • 6 Years Ago
      It's nice that Ford can still make an awesome truck, but it's even better to see that Chevy can still compete 2 and a half years after it's intro.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I think the F150 and the Silverado/Sierra are superior to the rest. But I do love the Ram as well. As far as Silverado/Sierra being the same, as far as I know they are but there may be some trim and option differences. GMC has long been billed as the higher grade truck.
        • 6 Years Ago
        The GMC and Chevy share many parts. But have some different suspension components, and are equipped differently.
      • 6 Years Ago
      It has nothing to do with knowing how to make a truck. Wake up, the F150 is the newest truck so it won. It HAS to save fords ass too.

      That's why it won. The newest truck always wins the competitions. Why didn't the ram win then you say? Ford means more and has more history than does the ram.

      I've NEVER understood the fascination with the F150. Its a P.O.S., well let me be honest - its ok. Its certainly has a lot of flaws.

      I've NEVER considered it the "best" that's for sure.
        • 6 Years Ago
        You're ignorant. Simply put.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I also drive an 06 F-150. Great truck. You must be high, and I respect that, but you don't need to make it so obvious.
        • 6 Years Ago
        lets just say this guy knows nothing about trucks. In my opinion you can't go wrong with either one. I Like the Dodge exterior, The F150 Interior, and the silverado engine. I must say that the F150 is a winner in my eyes, it performs just as well as the others while saving some fuel which is great. If I was on the truck Market my eyes would be on the Hemi Dodge Ram, with the F150 interior, but that's impossible.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Isn't the F150 the best-selling truck for the last few decades?

        Isn't the Ram just as new?

        Dude - try employing a bit of logic and a fact or two once in a while.

        Wake up, indeed.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I love trucks.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Maybe these companies wouldn't be hurting financially if they didn't waste hundreds of $millions on these gas guzzling 'work' trucks each year.
      It also seems to me that American public and the auto companies have forgotten the real purpose for these vehicles.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I would agree with you about people mistakenly using too much power just to go to the store and back. OTOH, numbers don't lie. These companies' investments in their best-selling units is justified from a business standpoint. I'd like to see the cash lavished on the F-150 spent equally on the new Fiesta.
      • 6 Years Ago
      The Chevy and GMC trucks may have the highest HP rating but it is only available when you floor the throttle for over 4 seconds or something like that. Otherwise, the engine's ECU is playing games to get better fuel mileage and is making less power than you'd expect.
      • 6 Years Ago
      F-150 is technically NOT the best selling truck:
      Silverado + Sierra combined is higher. (And they're basically the same truck with diff. badge)
        • 6 Years Ago
        #1. Ford F-Series
        436,022 -26.0% YTD
        October 2008: 43,324
        October 2007: 51,741

        #2. Chevrolet Silverado
        402,191 -23.6% YTD
        October 2008: 31,689
        October 2007: 48,716

        #3. Dodge Ram
        213,684 -29.0% YTD
        October 2008: 17,626
        October 2007: 24,711

        #4. GMC Sierra
        145,067 -16.9% YTD
        October 2008: 11,256
        October 2007: 17,417


        Just says "F Series" not 150, 250 etc.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Sorry, I meant 2500 and 3500 trucks.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Ahh, but the Sierra and Silverado also include 2500 and 2500 trucks. The F150 is just a half ton. If you count all F-Series trucks (F150 to F550), then Ford leaves GM quite a ways behind in total sales.
      • 6 Years Ago
      An odd engine choice for the GMs if you ask me. I'd think the 5.3L is far and away the biggest seller in those trucks, and would have given vastly different results. Probably similar to the F-150 in worse acceleration times but better fuel economy.

      They should have used the 5.3L engine in at least one of the two GM twins.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Yes it is the volume engine, but GM hasn't modernized it.
        GM needs to install VCT on the 5.3 pronto!
        335hp 350ft-lbs sounds about right.

        Replacing the obsolete 4 speed auto with the 6L80 was a good move, don't stop there GM.
      • 6 Years Ago
      i knew the F150 would win... Ford can really make a truck...
        • 6 Years Ago
        The Ram is a nice looking truck though. It would be a tough call if I were in the market.

        Yeah, the Ram may give up some to the F150 on the spec sheet but it's still more truck than I would need 99.99% of the time.

        In the end though I would probably go with the F150 for fear of a repeat of the transmission problems I had in my 01 Dakota.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Ford didn't win, ZF did.
        The ZF 6hp28 is fantastic.
        Ford needs shorter axle ratios in the interim between the EcoBoost and/or 6.2 V8.
        3.73 that's all, how about 5% shorter [3.92] or 10% shorter [4.10]
        • 6 Years Ago
        I was really stressed out one day and absentmindedly ran a red light in a rented F-150 supercab (the 4dr). That big ole truck took on three cars and barely shuddered. Of course, the other cars were totalled. thank god I didn't kill anyone!

        Btw, I quit that job.
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