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i vote for the fair tax system and then all problems are fixed. lets pay tax on the goods we buy. not uncle sam dipping in to our pockets all the time.

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Fair tax? But that would force the government to GASP!!! be fiscally responsible!!!

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I agree with your comment. I believe that this situation has people thinking much harder about every purchase they make. And if someone decides to wait an other year or two to buy a new car, good for them.

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hgoigoi I see you are upset we have Obama in the White House get over it you sound stupid anyway

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Actually, hgoigoi, he makes several good points. Maybe you should actually READ what he says, rather than just react because he doesn't like Obama.

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Actually, he/she is right on target.

If you are that partisan to think that dissent = stupidity, and that actual lucid commentary is stupid, then your comments say more about you than about the original comment or commenter.

But he is exactly right. Going into debt for a little rebate is like saying you'll save money by buying things. Inherently fallacious, and when promoted irresponsibly, causes trouble, not improvement.

Sen. Mikulski is a moron, and that sort of uninformed thinking is what caused the problem we find ourselves in. Emotionalism and knee jerk reactions masquerading as public policy, creating irresponsibility.

Buying now will cause more defaults later. Great plans, morons.

And Barney Frank, in the Fannie and Freddie debacle up to his eyeballs, or more, by pushing mortgage debt for those who couldn't really afford it, and now pushing irresponsible automotive purchases, on a depreciating asset, as if home values weren't falling enough for their taste.

IMPEACH THEM ALL, before they completely destroy what they have sworn to protect in their oathes of office. They have betrayed it enough already.

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"Yet another STUPID democrat. You would think we would have learned to not elect these liberals, but we keep doing it! We gave the white house to a socialist!"

Yea, things were so good before we elected all those demi-crats :)

Seriously though, you bash liberals, then complain about free trade, propose government interferring in markets and mandating ownership and size limits for corporations.

Be careful or someone might mistake you for one of those liberals you hate so much.

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A couple of comments:

hgoigoi:

socialism

• noun, a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Not sure how this relates to any current polictian's political philosophy, Democrat or Republican. If you don't like some one, you are well within your rights to offer a dissenting opinion. I only wish that when we make those choices, we attempt to become well-versed in our assertions before we spread potential slander. In addition, both Democrats and Republicans have all offered ridiculous solutions to a plethora of problems since, well, forever--some made in earnest, some reeking with a populist sentiment for political gain. Please don't assume that one party has all the answers, because it doesn't. Stupid people can be red, blue. or any other color in the rainbow.

Neither Republicans nor Democrats are the model for fiscal restraint. One way or the other, our tax dollars are spent on a variety of things that you may disagree with. Under a concurrent Republican and Democratic government (Executive and Legislative), we've seen our civil liberties compromised like in no other time in recent memory. Who you choose to lay the blame with is a personal choice; often though, it depends on your own political philosophy.

Lastly, negativity breeds negativity. I staunchly disagree with anyone who offers a dissenting opinion without a viable solution. For everyone's sake, I hope your dissapointment in recent events will/have spur(red) you to participate in the political process.

BoxerFanatic:

hgoigoi's comments were replete w/ charges of socialist and/or communist Democratic leadership. That wasn't simple dissent, but rather an assertion that is a bit far fetched. Accusing someone of comunist zeal in the U.S. is akin to yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre--a call for chaos. It's simply unproductive. Again, if you disagree, participate in the process.

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No, calling socialists socialists is being accurate.

The democrats are advocating GOVERNMENT OWNERSHIP STAKE IN THE BIG THREE. That is socialist control of the means of production.

They not only have absolutely no fiscal restraint, and passed 150 Billion dollars of PORK on top of a 700 Billion dollar bail out, ON TOP of already deficit spending more than any congress in US History.

The non-conservative republican congress was just as bad, and I am just as livid at them for abdicating the oath of office that ALL of them take to protect the country and defend the US Constitution. They are putting the country at grave risk.

High-handed calls for verbal restraint are too late. It is long past the time to call trouble what it is, and speak plainly. If it alarms people, it is about damn time people become alarmed, if it isn't already too late.

I voted. I did participate. I called my congressman and senators, I have made my voice clearly identifiable. Participation is not limited to actually BEING a representative or senator. Those politicians are accountable to the people, but they continue to foster the politics of division, and prey on political division, FAR more than my comments. And they continue to ignore the people they represent.

Roughly 80 percent of the american people voiced their opinion on the bail out plan. NEGATIVELY. And it still passed, after the PORK was added, and arms were twisted.

NOW they want to continue to push the BAD, SOCIALISTIC agenda that caused the problem in the first place.

So, I do participate. I do stay informed. And I call a socialist a socialist.

They are socializing private losses at the tax payer's expense. That isn't hyperbole. THAT IS A FACT. And it is about time people start getting direct about it.

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Correction.

Roughly 80% of the people that voiced their opinion to congress on the bail out plan, were negative.

And additionally, as we can see, it gives the SecTreas FAR more power that the constitution allows an agent of the executive branch. Not that the Legislative branch, or Judicial branch are acting particularly responsibly, either.

But the US Constitution is just a piece of paper... not like it is the foundation of the government or the law that the rule of law relies on, or anything.

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WTF are you on about?

You've got so many dogmas and isms going on I'm afraid you might have a coniption.

You're so busy blaming liberals/democrats for everything you don't even notice you then go on to blast the global corps (btw, I agree) which is anathema to the current oligarchy, oops, the republicans.

Let's keep it simple. This whole mess is the result of greed. Poor people thinking they could live like the people on reality tv. Greed of the rich who thought they could just take and take with no consequences. Greed of the politicians of both parties who allowed themselves to fiddle while Detroit burned while they fed at the trough of lobbyists.

Greed of all us.

In the words of that nutjob Rev. Wright: The chickens have come home to roost.

Hopefully, Obama will be able to get us out of this. Otherwise, we're screwed.

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@VegasStyleGuy...

All of us?

SPEAK FOR YOUR SELF. I am not over-extended. I have very little debt, and I am well ahead of schedule on the remnants of my student loan debt, and my completely appropriate fixed rate mortgage.

I am not greedy. According to most statistics, I am quite UNDER-paid, but that is my issue, not anyone elses. But that is not "greedy."

I have paid off cars that are not brand new, I have done all of my home improvements with cash. I have been saving for retirement, and that has been evaporating with no input from me. I don't have HDTV, I don't have credit card debt. I don't go out for dinner very often. I buy what I can afford, and that is decreasing every day due to inflation.

I DO what I need to do, and I live responsibly. The same cannot be said of the government that is supposed to represent me.

So stop this collective blame BULLCRAP. This is NOT everyone's fault. There is plenty of blame to go around, but not on everyone.

I CLEARLY said that the Republicans have been NO BETTER than the democrats.

But the Democrats are the ones pushing bail outs, and threatening to seize ownership in everything from the oil industry to health care, to the big 3 now.

I am calling socialists what they are.

I am calling irresponsible people irresponsible.

3 months have added 5 Trillion dollars to our debt. THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

That is 50% of the debt that this country has accrued in more than TWO HUNDRED YEARS.

The time is at hand to be honest, and to look things in the face, and call them what they are.

RE-READ the comments that I, and other conservatives and libertarians are posting, and LEARN SOMETHING before it is too late. It might already be too late.

If Socialism is too difficult a word for you people, then get a fricken back bone. It is real, and it is at hand.

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Last report, you needed a 700 credit score to buy a vehicle. How many of us aren't even close?

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