• Nov 11, 2008
Click above for high-res gallery of the 2009 BMW 335d

BMW announced pricing for its all-new 2009 diesel models during a live webcast today. Fitted under the hood of the 335d and X5 xDrive35d will be a 3.0-liter twin-turbo diesel rated at 265 hp and 425 lb-ft of torque (BMW's own flagship 6.0-liter gasoline V12 barely tops it with 444 lb-ft). The torque precludes BMW from fitting a 6-speed manual to the engine, so both models will arrive with a 6-speed Steptronic automatic. The sedan will sprint to 60 mph in just over six seconds with the SAV adding about a second to the time. Base MSRP for the BMW 335d will be $44,725 (the price includes destination fees), while the base MSRP for the X5 xDrive 35d will be $52,025 (including fees). Both vehicles will qualify for the IRS Alternative Motor Vehicle Tax Credit, though the exact amount has yet to be determined. For comparison's sake, the 2009 VW Jetta TDI gets a tax credit of $1,300 while the Mercedes-Benz GL320 BLUETEC gets $1,800. The first shipment of vehicles will arrive at dealers before the end of the year. However, we'll be driving the 335d during the LA Auto Show next week and will be sure to post our impressions as soon as possible.

Gallery: 2009 BMW 335d Advanced Diesel

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      • 6 Years Ago
      I felt it important to add the figures I used for my calculations.

      I look at the National average prices. That's the most reasonable figure to use and one we can all easily see and isn't swayed by local differences or rather, all of those local differences are averaged together.

      The national average this week, from http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd_dcus_nus_w.htm is $2.22/gal for Regular and $2.95/gal for diesel.

      That makes diesel 33% more expensive than gasoline currently. When gas prices were very high, diesel was generally closer to 15% higher than gas which is much closer to the level we've seen over the past few years and a level I believe we'll reach again over the coming months. Might not be until after winter though due to the increased demand for heating oil this time of year.

      This is lower than my 50% figure above because I was using my local prices and gasoline here is under $1.90/gal while diesel is around $2.85/gal.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Dammit, supposed to be a reply.
      • 6 Years Ago
      So in Europe the have the 520d that gets stellar fuel economy, and in the USA we get the "hot" version that offers a modest fuel economy boost at a huge additional cost.

      http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/

      Whats the point?
        • 6 Years Ago
        I'd say they need to establish a halo effect for the diesels and BMW doesn't want to dilute the brand and be perceived to be in competition with the Jetta TDI.

        Sure there is a 520d but if you've ever driven one you'd know that it really isn't the sort of car the American market would embrace. It has 163hp which is what you find inside a base Honda Accord, not a RWD sports saloon.

        Same goes for the 116d,118d,120d,318d,320d... They are all designed for a country where fuel prices are 2-3x that of the USA where fuel economy becomes a necessity.

        BMW makes many small petrol engined vehicles that don't make it over here and judging from the number of 318is you see on the road here, I doubt if a small diesel BMW would sell at all well.

        BTW to those that think $44k base is expensive, the same car is nearly $70k in the UK and comes with cloth seats!

        • 6 Years Ago
        Last time I was in australia, i saw 120d, a month ago, when I went to India, I saw 635d, 730d, and 520 d, 530d and 535d.

        http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/7series/sedan/2005/allfacts/engine_6c_diesel.html

        http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/6series/coupe/2007/allfacts/engine_6c_diesel.html

        why cant we have that assortment here..

        • 6 Years Ago
        And as for the larger diesels... It took years for Europe to accept the concept of a coupe diesel and it still doesn't sell that well.

        The larger diesel saloons are generally relegated to upscale taxi work and we all know that while the Lincoln Town Car stays in production, livery companies aren't going to start buying $80k BMWs.

        That said I really wish they did have more diesels here, back in the UK i had a Saab 9-3 diesel convertible and loved it!
        • 6 Years Ago
        AGREE. BMW will not sell many 335d's - too expensive and too much engine/too little fuel economy. I would much prefer a manual 320d Touring or a 120d. At lease offer the 330d - it would allow a BMW manual gearbox.
      • 6 Years Ago
      wow, i just realized BMW literally doesn't not have a manual transmission that will handle more than ~400ftlb. That is disturbing.
        • 6 Years Ago
        lets just hope they don't pull the stunt they did with the E39 to E60 M5 transition. Yeah BMW, would it have really been that hard to beef up that transmission a little?
        • 6 Years Ago
        You need a pretty beefy clutch to handle that much torque... more clutch effort than your everday BMW driver will want.
      • 6 Years Ago
      No 335xd ? I want AWD!
        • 6 Years Ago
        I agree, a diesel AWD car would be real nice and it would give BMW something the competition doesn't have.

        Personally I would love a 535xd. I was never a huge fan of the three series, but I love the five series.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Dr. Nick...Where are you that diesel is 50% higher than premium (the appropriate comparison)?

      Nationally, diesel is at $3.88/gallon and premium is at $3.74 (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd_dcus_nus_w.htm). The spread's a little bigger for me in VA at about $0.30 (still well under 10%). Even looking at regular, which is an invalid comparison in this case, diesel is under 15% higher nationally, on average. 50%?!?
        • 6 Years Ago
        Connecticut. It's about $2.30 vs. $3.30 or more. It gets that way in the winter in New England with the competition between heating oil and diesel fuel. Makes the diesel option a tough one to justify- given possibly negligible gas savings vs. increased complexity and maintenance requirements of the diesel, never mind the NVH issues.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Though the spread has been huge here for quite a while.
      • 6 Years Ago
      not too bad for a tire-roasting 3 series with like 34 mpg.
      • 6 Years Ago
      This is a car I've wanted to drive for a while. Manual, please. Chip this thing for some mind-bending torque....
        • 6 Years Ago
        I thought, in general, manuals could handle more torque than automatics. Surely BMW could develop a manual that could handle it, but sadly there aren't enough real drivers buying the "ultimate driving machine" these days...
        • 6 Years Ago
        but sadly there aren't enough real drivers buying the "ultimate driving machine" these days...

        Sadly there are way too many slushbox driving poseurs these days.

        Give me three pedals or you can keep the car..
        • 6 Years Ago
        Yes please. As a wagon, with a manual (or that flappy paddle gearbox), and an M Sport appearance package..

        BMW, if you do that, I'll buy it tomorrow.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Very interested in this car. The lack of a manual sucks, but I can live with it. I'm going to wait and see what gets done with this in the aftermarket, and give it a year or two to see if maybe they'll come to their senses and offer it with a stick or a SMG.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Awesome, around 45k is perfect, hopefully this will push Audi to bring the A5 TDI over quicker. 45k is what i'd be comfortable spending.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Nice to see that we taxpayers will be subsidizing some yuppie's $50k statusmobile.
      • 6 Years Ago
      GEEZ, that's a lot of torque!
      • 6 Years Ago
      I live in Greenville, SC (where the X5 is built) and had an X5 diesel park next to me as I was getting out of my car. For the most part it was very quiet but the engine noise caused me to take a double take and look at the badge to confirm since I didn't think they were selling them just yet. So I guess they weren't and this must have been a "test" vehicle of some kind. I looked at the tag to see if it had a "manufacturers" tag and it didn't so that seems odd and was the reason I figured they must have already started selling them.
        • 6 Years Ago
        They make Euro-market diesel X5's there, I would guess that that's what you saw
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