• Nov 7, 2008
Hyundai is making a serious run at such stalwart luxury marques as Lexus, Mercedes-Benz and BMW with the Genesis sedan. The Korean automaker is already competing directly with those established players using its current range of engines and transmissions, with the 4.6-liter V8 being mated to the same 6-speed ZF automatic tranny that sees duty in various Bimmers and Jaguars. Sometime around 2010, Hyundai will have a new 8-speed automatic ready for public consumption that being developing in-house, and it will surely see the light of day in the Genesis mated up to Hyundai's latest V8 engine. That development will trump Mercedes by one gear and match the number of ratios offered by Lexus. BMW is expected to rely on a new unit from ZF, its longtime supplier, that should also feature eight forward gears. In the never-ending quest for increased performance and fuel efficiency, plus a bit of one-upmanship, expect more automakers to pair their largest powerplants with an ever-increasing number of cogs.


[Source: Green Car Advisor via AutoblogGreen]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      Anything over 6 speeds is overkill.
        • 6 Years Ago
        The only other downsides are increased weight, complexity, and costs but these shouldn't be much of an issue.

        Yea, automatics should have more gears, helps much more than it hurts. IMO, anything less than 6 gears should be banned in the USA. That one thing should hopefully get CAFE from riding our asses. Along with people properly inflating their damn tires.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Based on what? This isn't a manual with H pattern shifting. This is automatic, and in a luxury 7-Series sized car, that's what nearly everyone wants. If the transmission can increase performance by offering deeper gears and more closely spaced ratios AND decrease fuel consumption by offering higher ratios to cruise I don't see the downside... As long as the programming doesn't have it constantly hunting and searching for the proper ratios all the time
      • 6 Years Ago
      A waste of time and engineering. Get your people to work on stuff that makes sense - this 'my transmission has more gears than yours does' is pure stupidity. 3 and 4 speeds used to do the trick, I make do with 5 just fine in the car I drive now. Do I need a 6th? Not really. Why don't they just go CVT and get 'unlimited' gears? Pretty soon we'll see headlines for 'The new Lexus LS, featuring the 18-speed shiftlogic transmission!'
        • 6 Years Ago
        More gears equals better acceleration and economy. CVT? On a V8? Ya right. Suitable for ride on lawn mowers and go karts maybe, but not a V8.
        • 6 Years Ago
        The LS600h already does have CVT and 4wd.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Yawn. At this point, just drop in a CVT and give the driver a snooze button. Why even tell the driver how many gear changes he won't be involved in?
        • 6 Years Ago
        CVTs are for snowmobiles buddy. No self respecting man with nuts should be caught driving a car with a CVT! :) Just kidding!
      • 6 Years Ago
      It seems like Hyundai truly is serious about the luxury game. This matches the Lexus LS in cogs and bests the BMW 7, Mercedes-Benz S, Audi A8, etc.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I personally feel 6 speeds in an automatic are sufficient, but I'm sure there's room for argument there. IMO if you want more gears, get a CVT.

      The development of an 8-speed auto is commendable, but offer a true 6-speed MANUAL and you'll earn my spending dollar, Hyundai. Other than the slushbox, your Genesis is a sweet ride. I'm sure 98%+ buyers want the auto, though.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I just saw on Autoline Detroit w/John McElroy where he said that Hyundai was, so far, selling DOUBLE the amount of these w/the v-8. So I disagree w/everyone saying that the effort to do this is worthless. Along with making it even more competitive, it'll make the car even faster and slightly more fuel efficient. When has that ever been a bad thing??
      • 6 Years Ago
      Right now, a 2006 LS430 fully loaded with Ultra Luxury Package and about 28K would be $36K, the V8 Hyundai is $40K (MSRP)... why would anyone buy the Genesis besides the fact that it's NEW when the LS has already depreciated and the Hyundai has yet to depreciate?

      DON'T ADD UP !!!!
        • 6 Years Ago
        And a Genesis after a year will be worth about $4, so what's your point?
        • 6 Years Ago
        A 2006 Lexus? Are you joking? A lexus about to go out of warranty is worth about $5.
      • 6 Years Ago
      DAMN!
        • 6 Years Ago
        If the GENESIS gets an 8-speed automatic and the price doesn't increase past $45,000, then the Genesis will be the EQUIVALENT of the Lexus LS460, minus a couple electronic gadgets and real wood grain.

        For HYUNDAI, THIS IS A BIG THING !
        • 6 Years Ago
        I hope that this transmission trumps the ZF & AW 8 speed autos in ratio spread.
        7.35-ish : 1 sounds real nice.
      • 6 Years Ago

      Who will buy a Avalon after seeing this?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Along those same lines, why would anyone buy a used LS430 when they can buy a used S-Class or 7 Series?

      Besides, in 2 yrs, one can buy a used Genesis at a lower price-point than a 2 year old LS.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I guess everyone's copying Karl Friedrich Benz since he was the first to produce a gasoline powered automobile.
      • 6 Years Ago
      they could put 20 gears in the Anonesis and I still wouldn't buy that generic POS.
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