• Oct 31, 2008
We reported last month that General Motors could move the next Cadillac Escalade to its Lambda platform that's currently used by the Saturn Outlook, GMC Acadia, Buick Enclave and Chevy Traverse, and now GM Inside News is reporting via an inside source that the Suburban/Yukon XL may also get the unibody treatment. With replacements for the smaller Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon and Escalade reportedly cancelled, we think all signs are pointing to each GMT900-based SUV moving over to the Lambda platform with some of the current slow-selling Lambda-based models being cut altogether.

But the craziness doesn't end there. GM Inside News also reports an even more surprising vehicle could get moved to the crossover platform: the Dodge Caravan, assuming of course that the General follows through on talks to purchase Chrysler from Cerberus. You may recall that GM abandoned the minivan market earlier this year in favor of its Lambda-based crossovers.

The Lambda platform must be extremely modular if it can be stretched enough to accommodate the size of the Suburban along with the people- and cargo-carrying capacity of a Dodge minivan. Also on the rumormill menu is a possible Chevrolet version of the minivan. These changes are supposedly set to take place by 2014, and plenty of things can and will change by then. In other words, talk this all with a grain of salt.

[Source: GM Inside News]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      Please GM, DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE YOU MADE IN THE 90's. Don't pull out of one market too fast to shift to another. Maintain resources in the body-on-frame GMT900s. They are great vehicles that are in every single respect better than the unibody Lambdas. They still sell 100k+ copies per year and have huge profit. And because they share platforms with the pickups, they are cheap as hell to develop and build.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Is "Lambda platform" a synonym for a "funeral coach"?
      • 6 Years Ago
      I like the idea of a Lambda-based minivan, as long as they give them proper sliding doors. I don't want another internal Lambda competitor with swing doors. People do still have uses for sliding doors nowadays, despite their waning popularity.
      Also, PLEASE KEEP THE SUBURBAN AS A TRUCK-BASED UTE! It has towing capabilities like none other, and it still has more room than the Lambdas (granted, the Lambdas beat the GMT900s, but not the GMT900 XLs).
      • 6 Years Ago
      Actually......... the first time that I heard about the Lambda, about 5 1/2 years ago working on plastic trim it was mentioned as a GM Minivan replacement...... So they come full circle.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Castrating the 'Burban? Bad idea. It needed to tow like a truck and haul like a truck, just like it always has.
      • 6 Years Ago
      For such a modular platform, you'd think they give it a better nomenclature than Lambda. I'm thinking somewhere the lines of... oh... The Chuck Norris Platform.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Ummm D'uh!

      After being nationalized by the government, a merged GM/Chrysler/Ford, would only have one "suv" based on either the Lamdba platform or the Escape.

      ...and I don't want to hear anyone ask/speculate what the available engines will be...No gasoline V-8s or V-6! 2.0 diesel hybrid will be the only available engine on the Suburabn. M'kay?

      • 6 Years Ago
      Suburban traces its roots back to 1935 and it has always been truck based. But the first Escalade was built in 1999. There is no need for that model to be based on a truck. They could take the Escalade name down to Lambda and leave the Suburban where it is. Suburban isn't going away.
        • 6 Years Ago
        +1, would agree to this comment - Escalade doesn't need to tow anything more than an ego, Suburban is actually useful and people that buy them know and need that.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Agreed on the Cadillac Escalade. I think they could get away with keeping the SRX fighting the MKX and MDXs of the world, while keeping a Lambda-based 'Lade as your new plush-mobile, and at 24mpg highway.
      • 6 Years Ago
      LOL, a Lambda based Escalade... Now a Lambda based SRX actually makes sense, but my 'Lade as a cross-over? Please cancel the thing already before you forcibly remove its testicles, same goes for the Tahoe and 'Burban.

      What's next? An XJ based Range Rover wagon? :rolleyes:
        • 6 Years Ago
        Please don't give Tata any ideas.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I understand cutting either the GMT900 or GMT900 XL line, but to cut one and then maim the other doesn't make sense to me. Maybe GM could save money by combining Tahoe, Yukon (and XL), and Suburban into one vehicle...surely there's money to be saved in reducing the amount of badge engineering that needs to be done. The Lambda line is crowded as is. I understand that it's flexible architecture, but does it really need 10+ vehicles based on it? If you tow anything bigger than a WaveRunner, you'd understand why GMT1000 needs to exist.
      • 6 Years Ago
      The Suburban will not go away or move to the Lamba platform. That would be an unnecessary move that would be foolish and already add to the way too crowded platform. A vehicle like the Suburban is needed in the market for people who truly need its cargo, hauling, durability, towing capacity, etc. It will always have it's place. The Lambda vehicles are already there for those who need room with less off road capability and the like. Not happening.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I am sure I didn't just read that the Escalade is being cancelled. Now, that would be stupid. No matter what the gas prices are, that's a vehicle all sorts of people still want.

      In addition, with the Town Car dying (some day, probably right after Cher, or never) the Escalade (please stop saying " 'Slade" ,that is so not cool) is the preferred choice of limo companies.

      Surely, GM can make money on it for a long time. The Navigator doesn't even count anymore, it's got the whole segment to itself.
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