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Nissan offers more evidence of GT-R 'Ring run: second video and pic of tires
Photo of stock tires used on the GT-R that tackled the 'Ring in 7:29
Nissan released a second video of the incredible 7:29 lap time achieved by the GT-R earlier this year at the Nürburgring Nordschleife along with a photo of the stock tires that were installed on the car at the time. It did so to dispel accusations that the time might not be 100% authentic. Porsche in particular seemed highly suspicious, and boldly claimed its belief that Nissan wasn't using stock tires at the time. The new video starts with some off-track buildup and shows the 50kg of test equipment that was on-board the car at the time, as well. Although we don't speak Japanese, we think that's what they're talking about along with discussing the fresh stock tires that were fitted to the car. The actual lap starts about 4 minutes in and looks pretty authentic to us. We're sure there will continue to be questions and complaints from all sides in this controversy, and we know that this is starting to turn into a a bit of a melodrama, but we really can't help ourselves. You can catch up on the whole sordid affair by clicking here and check out the video after the jump.
[Source: GTR Blog via Edmunds]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
kevin2323 6:36PM (10/13/2008)
doesnt matter when the viper and zri are 1 and 2....#3 doesnt mean jack hehe
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Alex Keyes 6:48PM (10/13/2008)
No, it DOES matter. It's a matter of showing Porsche that it was arrogant and wrong.
It is also a matter of a triumph of more affordable technology over badge overpricing.
416Hammy 7:22PM (10/13/2008)
What really doesn't matter is domestic-car fanboyism, and posts from illiterate fools.
PS - It's ZR1, not "zri".
Tokyotuner 7:27PM (10/13/2008)
when #1 and 2 have over (a reported) 100hp and weighs 400-500lbs lighter then #3, #1 pretty much being a street legal racecar, then #3 don't look that bad now does it.
Red 7:57PM (10/13/2008)
@kevin2323,
There's a $26,460 price difference between the 2008 GT-R and ZR-1 ($33,450 before the mid-year price bump) and a $21,270 price difference between GT-R and ACR ($33,430 before the mid-year price bump). If my math is correct, that's an $8,820 per second difference between the GT-R and ZR-1 and a $3,038 per second difference between the GT-R and ACR. The ACR may be faster at the ring, but the GT-R is more comfortable and can be used year-round in any climate.
I'm not a fanboy at all. In fact, I'm not a fan of the GT-R. But even I can acknowledge the facts. The GT-R may not be faster, but it's the better value. You want a faster car, wait for the V-Spec. You're worried about prestige, wait for the (inevitable) Infiniti variant.
Mobius_1 10:15PM (10/13/2008)
I have only 1 three-letter acronym for you:
ACR
poop 12:55AM (10/14/2008)
so I put an i instead of a 1 makes me illiterate...
ahhh these jap fanboys make me laugh.
the ZRI AND VIPER ACR are street legal and guess what they finally proved my point about the paper weight called the GT-R....it is a pos. I knew there was something wrong when a car that weighed that much and only had 400+ hp is running mid 3 sec 0-60s. It is all technology, when you take off launch control to get brute power, guess what? the transmission blows and nissan doesnt cover it.
GT-R= EPIC FAIL
GT-R= GET TRANSMISSION REPLACED
actually...
GT-R= GET TOTAL CAR REPLACED
nissan needs to stick to tiny fuel efficient engines...brute hp and tq are not in their car genes.
Doug 3:33AM (10/14/2008)
who cares about ACR and ZR1??both gm and chrysler will be bankrupt in 3 years..99% of their products are CRAP
Torqued 8:42AM (10/14/2008)
"so I put an i instead of a 1 makes me illiterate
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the ZRI AND VIPER ACR are street legal"
I think you are dangerously close to being illiterate. You put and i instead of a 1 again, only 2 quasi-sentences after acknowledging the mistake.
(Sentences start with capital letters and have punctuation. Sorry to be the grammar police, but I don't get how it's so hard to hold down the shift key every now and then.)
Chad 9:16AM (10/14/2008)
Certainly doesn't matter if they won't back their transmissions when you do stuff like that.
innoc3nt 5:29AM (10/15/2008)
I respect the GT-R for what it is, and I don't know if Nissan is lying or not, but frankly speaking, a picture of tires on a rack really isn't much proof at all. Anyone could take a picture of tires on a rack and say "these are the same ones we used that day on the video. Trust us."
Scorch 6:53PM (10/13/2008)
Taking it around the 'Ring probably voided the warranty.
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Andi Baritchi 6:58PM (10/13/2008)
Good point... was the VDC off? heh.
Maybe Porsche just decided to maintain their warranty...
http://blog.andibaritchi.com/2008/10/nissan-gtr-black-box-abused-for.html
Amien 7:32PM (10/13/2008)
Im sorry, i can't really take you seriously until you convince me that you truly know the meaning of the word "voided", which im sure you don't.
@Topic
Now that the Tyre claim is settled, Porsche can start bitching about how their test GTR's tranny only withstood 200 or so launches.
Carlos 8:29PM (10/13/2008)
This post made me lol. I'm sure Nissan was able to ring out a 7:29 lap and then have to replace the transmission afterward.
Christian de Saint Preux 6:59PM (10/13/2008)
I would love to see a Z06 Lap with the same tires they used...
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RLQ 7:04PM (10/13/2008)
Porsche needs to put this to rest and build a faster 911.
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Torrent 11:22PM (10/13/2008)
took the words right outta my mouth.
Porsche: stop bitching and get to making better, faster, smarter engines. sheesh.
nagmashot 3:41AM (10/14/2008)
Porsche has build 6:11min Ring cars in 1983... they still hold the all time northloop lap record.. they know one or two things about what is possible and what is not possible at the Ring.
Franz 7:13PM (10/13/2008)
I said it: Porsche is gonna come out of this one looking a little silly. I'm sure the Porsche fans will still be skeptical, and the anti-Nissan crowd will still toss hateful comments but this one is looking kinda sewn up to be honest. What would be the rationale behind such an elaborate cheat and subsequent cover up... just to keep the 'Ring throne warm for GM & Dodge? Doesn't make sense.
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