• Sep 17, 2008


In a move that might frost your cupcakes, General Motors has dropped the heated windshield washer fluid option on all models. The feature was a big part of Buick advertising in the recent past, but GM has either not had enough takers, or there are issues with the OEM for the system components. Either way, you're going to have to chip the ice off the windshield of your brand new Traverse the same way we've done it since the invention of the wheel: cold, freezing, wet, and swearing.

In all honesty, heated washer fluid is better in theory than in practice. It may help a little bit, but the windshield has a lot of "thermal inertia" and the glass is what really needs to be warmed up. Those of us who thought we were smart wrapping the washer fluid line around a radiator hose back in the day discovered this, and now it seems GM has found out the same thing. Maybe Tata could hook The General up with Range Rover's windshield supplier, and we could all rock Lucernes with defroster grids in the front glass. Obviously, cars already built with the system will hit dealerships so equipped, but any vehicles that are pending will have the option deleted and a price adjustment made. Hit the jump to see which vehicles are stricken.

[Source: ChevyTraverseForum | Image: Picasa]



Affected models:

Buick: Enclave, Lucerne
Cadillac: CTS, DTS, Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT
Chevrolet: Tahoe, Suburban, Avalanche, Silverado, Traverse
GMC: Acadia, Yukon, Denali, Yukon XL, Denali XL, Sierra, Sierra Denali
Hummer: H2
Saturn: Outlook


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      • 6 Years Ago


      when GM orders parts from a supplier they put the warranty on respective supplier. So, by having the recall, gm made the supplier pay for the repair, and the labor rate, etc.

      at 850k parts. it'd be impossible to keep that business alive.

      • 6 Years Ago
      Heating the windshield is nice and all but I wish someone would come up with an almost instant way to smash all the ice to pieces, since sitting there freezing while waiting for the stupid windshield to get warm kinda sucks. For now you pretty much have to remote start the car if you want to heat it up enough to just get in and go.
      Someone should make like, a sonic ice breaker or something (that hopefully doesn't break the glass or your hearing).
      • 6 Years Ago
      I have it on my '08 CTS. This system works waaay better as a windshield cleaner than a de-icer. I use it all the time in the summer to get bugs and bird crap off. The heated liquid cleans it up pretty good.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Jaguars also have a heated windshield and surprisingly enough the 2006+ Ford Explorer offers it as an option too.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I've always wondered why heated windshields aren't offered on more cars. It seems like a "well, duh!" feature.

        Is there a legal (or technical?) reason why a manufacturer cannot put heating elements in the front or side windows?
        • 6 Years Ago
        There isn't a specific reason, I think it just comes down to cost and if people actually want it.

        A guy I work with has an 07 ST with the heated windshield. Supposedly his wife's Freelander had it, too.

        He likes it but says there are certain angles the sun will hit it and you actually get a small reflection off the heating elements.

        Personally, I wouldn't want it. I look at the cost to replace a rear window with heating elements and cringe at the idea of what it would cost to get the windshield replaced. I will just get a remote starter and let the car run for five minutes.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Didn't the McLaren F1 have a heated windshield, and also the previous generation Audi A8?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Look here, folks, in my country, I can purchase washer fluid that is freeze resistant - there are several varieties available from numerous resellers. -30, -40, -60 or even -80 degrees Celsius. These fluids just do not freeze.

      There are other modern days niceties such as windshield defroster that my Japanese hatchback has built-in, Front and Back and on the rear-view mirrors. This can be further helped by directing fan outlets to the windshield. Even in -20 Celsius I'm ready to go ice-free within 5 minutes from starting the engine - that's 5 minutes max when I'm lazy around car.
        • 6 Years Ago
        "in my country, I can purchase washer fluid that is freeze resistant"

        Sames goes for my country. I've never had a problem.

        "other modern days niceties such as windshield defroster"

        I think Ford was doing that in the early 80's. I wonder why they stopped.
      • 6 Years Ago
      My 1990 BMW 535i had heated windshield washer nozzles. My current 328i has this as standard. It actually isn't designed to keep the washer fluid warm as it hits the windshield, rather it is to keep the nozzles warm so they don't freeze shut, has happens on some of the other cars I have owned when the ice is thick.

      It works quite well, I have the heater turned on high facing the windshield to keep it from icing back over.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Josh- many german cars have heated nozzles. It seems that frozen nozzles are a big problem over there (Dad complains all winter) but I would guess its largely because they don't buy washer fluid like we do (pre-mixed) but rather mix stuff together themselves.
        The Srinter can be had with a heated windshield as well (good thing since thats a lot of glass).
        • 6 Years Ago
        Actually the system in Hummers and Buicks were fluid heaters. Thats part of the problem. It has a line that heats it up and then it sprays and wipes and pulses that way for a minute or so. It was put into Hummers as a component from Starcraft (as in the conversion vans) and it was a hell of a time to replace a switch. That's more likely the reason for the discontinuance, the contract is probably not being renewed... Just hypothesizing.....
      • 6 Years Ago
      Like it says in the article, the windshield fluid or the fluid's hose could be placed close to hot motor elements. No need for special heaters, the heat is already available at no cost.
      • 6 Years Ago
      You can have a heated windscreen on any Euro-Ford!
      Mostly offered in a so called "Winter-Package" combined with heated side mirrors and heated windshield washer nozzles. The new Fiesta does have this option as well.
      • 6 Years Ago
      GM got into this due to again using non American parts and tier 2 suppliers.

      Winter windshield washer has up to 38% Methanol ( hello its a fuel ) and

      When telling car owners not to use this fluid with a instant heater they do it anyways.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I think that perhaps you don't understand what a Tier 2 supplier is...Tier 1s supplies directly to the vehicle manufacturer, Tier 2s supply parts to the Tier 1.
      • 6 Years Ago
      My Audi A6 has this and it doesn't seem to do anything. Furthermore, Audi SUGGESTS alcohol-based fluid so that when it sprays out the headlight washers, it doesn't hit the hood and strip the wax off it.

      Still, what could GM's supplier have done wrong that VW's supplier managed to get right?
      • 6 Years Ago
      http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2008/08/post.html


      There was a big recall on these...

      they heated the fluid as it came to the sprayer.
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