The Genesis is A LOT MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK.

This car comes with almost everything you'd imagine a $70,000 lexus coming with. The problem is...its a Hyundai. No one makes big news for Hyundai's cause they are still considered as lowly as Kia's and Scions. This car should change all that though.

I've been to Hyundai to test the V6 Genesis with the technology package. That car feels like a Lexus LS inside (definitely better than the middle generation LS).
For $40,000, the V6 genesis comes with more than youd get from any car in this range...most closely comparable to a Lincoln MKS. For a couple thousand more, the V8 Genesis blows away well known cars like Chrysler's 300C and Infiniti M35.

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I went to the Hyundai dealership, and yes it is a nice car. However, they're charging sticker for it, and the dealership is a ghetto.

I'd rather just save $10k and get an M or GS with 20k on it.

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The Genesis doesn't have power folding side mirrors, which is kind of funny since it's on the Azera.

But more importantly the 7K advantage in price is erased by the fact that it'll depreciate worse than the GS and the fact that it eats an extra $500 a year in gasoline.

Anyone who thinks a 42K Hyundai isn't going to depreciate horrifyingly is deluding themselves. No it doesn't matter if you drive your car into the ground, but since luxury car buyers are buying these cars to get the latest and craziest features on a car they usually don't drive them for a huge number of years.

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Actually, if the inside line article is correct it'll actually eat more than an extra $500 a year in fuel since I was using the EPA numbers, but Inside Line says:
"The Lexus drank premium at the rate of 22.9 mpg, while the Hyundai slurped it up at a 17.6 mpg rate."
It will likely then use an extra $800 a year if you drive 15K per year, which is rather not good considering that the GS was the faster car in the article.
The Hyundai won solely because of price! It's passenger seat isn't cooled, it had cheaper plastics, and it was slower even though it had a bigger engine and drank more fuel, and it has an iDrive knockoff for the nav system.
Being that it's only advantage is initial cost, I'd say that it actually loses this stupid competition since the cost advantage is enitrely offset by the fact that it'll drink it's cost advantage back in fuel and depreciation.

Honestly, people who just want a practical and luxurious car without snob appeal would likely be best off just buying an Avalon instead of trying to engage in some sort of automotive pissing contest with badges and RWD. 99% of drivers have no use for RWD and will mostly just need the traction control systems to keep them from killing themselves.

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Why are you comparing a V8's MPG to a V6's MPG? Lacking on the reading ability are we?

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The comparison IS between a V6 and a V8. But consider the motors beyond their cylinder numbers - Lexus has been making butter-smooth V6's for over a Decade (on North American Shores - many more back home) and has gotten pretty darn good at it. This is Hyundai's first stab at a V8 and like some of their smaller cars, the size and power of the motor doesn't always translate onto the road. The Genesis is not a slow car and should more than meet the needs of the driver that buys one, and the gearhead will get a new 6.1L Pontiac G8 anyways. For outright smoothness and luxury, the Lexus sticks to its game and is the winner here, despite the cost premium. Like some others have written, that will be recouped by slower depreciation costs and considerably better fuel mileage.

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@AKnutson

This is not Hyundai's first stab at a V8. They codeveloped an 8 cylinder with Mitsubishi; the 8A80 that was used in the Equus and Proudia in those full size cars. Granted Toyota has been at it longer, they have at least made a valid contender for this new car.

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tekdemon, you're not making much sense. But I guess if you're trying to change the minds of the ignorant, here's something they can ponder...

1) First of all, how is saving $500/year better than saving $7,000 up front? Okay so it'll take, what, only 14 years to recoup? (And don't forget about the interest you can be making with up front savings.) Also, if you compare the V6 Genesis to the GS350 the price difference in gas is much less than $500 year, if any. Not to mention you save even more money initially with the Genesis. I know they compared it to the V8 Genesis, but almost all V6 Genesis reviews raved at how well it performs and have even reported it "feeling" faster then the V8 and definitely handled better. Plus 80% of Genesis buyers are expected to get the V6, so 80% of the Genesis buyers don't care about this argument.

2) Now about the depreciation... Wake up. It's 2008, not 1998. The Automotive Lease Guide (ALG) estimates that the 2009 Genesis will have a residual value of 50% after 3 years. Compare that to the 48% for a CTS, 47% for a 535i, and 44% for a GS350. You heard right, the Genesis is estimated to have a BETTER residual value than the GS350. Also, check out the Azera/Avalon residuals in Edmunds. Not only is the Azera cheaper to maintain, but it holds its value better than the Avalon.

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Not really, not a lot of people (in the luxury car market) are going to cough up the money for a Hyundai over a Lexus. It's all about the badge, sir.

For the first time.. there's a Hyundai that looks good, IMO.

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This is HYUNDAI, NOT TOYOTA! Toyota is the recall king of the year, and their cars are junk.

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@ kkay all their AMERICAN MADE cars are junk.

thank you.

Australian/Japanese toyota made cars are rarely recalled.

(once/twice a year! if that.)

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Avalon? There's nothing RWD about the Avalon; the Avalon is a Buick/Accord/Maxima fighter.

The GS is a natural competitor to the Toyota GS350. Let's be clear, guys, Lexus is Toyota and any fronting about it being a luxury car is pure poppycock. Hyundai is where toyota was in 1989.

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