• Aug 7, 2008

Switzerland is not the most car-friendly place on earth. (Odd, then, that after Monaco, the mountainous country is one of the most popular residence choices for F1 drivers.) But this just puts it over the top. The Swiss Green Party is proposing legislation that would effectively ban supercars. Most sportscars, actually. And SUVs. More than a few luxury sedans, too. Even some small hatchbacks.

The proposed regulations would ban any vehicle over 4800 lbs in weight, producing more than 250 grams of CO2 per kilometer, burning diesel without a new-fangled particulate filter or possessing a front end deemed less than optimal for pedestrian impact. Many of the vehicles on the proposed list of non-compliant new cars would seem logical, according to the Green Party mindset: Aston Martins, Bentleys, HUMMERs, pretty much anything from Italy bigger than a Fiat Panda, most American cars offered in Europe... but wait a second, the Hyundai Getz? Kia Rio? Nissan Micra? Even the Dacia Logan. Somebody's getting carried away in Switzerland, and we hope with the country's populist approach to governance that the Swiss populace will keep their tree-hugging elements in check. Otherwise, we might be riding bikes to next year's Geneva show.

[Source: Asphale.ch via AutoblogGreen]



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      • 6 Years Ago
      heyy, that s2000 has more hp than you need. you could drive recklessly and kill someone at the speeds that thing will go.

      here are the keys to a yaris. you can only drive on Tuesdays. WE know whats best for you.

      • 6 Years Ago
      If the US adopted this, we wouldn't fight wars for corporate oil contracts!! Not Fair!
      • 6 Years Ago
      Hello guys im from switzerland...

      Some green minded idiots think we can save the world by doing such things...
      While USA,China,Russia and other great countries doing what they want and living in Freedom.

      BTW,a Subaru WRX is at the upper limit of that Co2 regulation.
        • 6 Years Ago
        @ Dazza

        No I dont know if this guy is actually Swiss. Probably is not.

        Switzerland is part of Western Europe even if not part of the EU. EU membership does not change Geography.

        No I do not think this legislation will pass but the fact that it is even proposed it frightening.

        Legislation like this would actually render China and Russia to having a greater amount of personal freedom than the Swiss. At least consumer freedom.
        • 6 Years Ago
        In Russia one has to pay enormous taxes if he wants to drive a gas guzzler with a big engine.
        It's called tax on "Mercedes 600".

      • 6 Years Ago
      It’s their country, let them do what they want. They have nutcases who want to ban everything, they have bastards who sold their country to the environmental lobby, we have bastards(bush, republicans) who sold country to auto lobby(ford,GM,Toyota,Chrysler) and much much worse (oil lobby, saudies).
        • 6 Years Ago
        I Agree with mike
        "It’s their country, let them do what they want. They have nutcases who want to ban everything, they have bastards who sold their country to the environmental lobby, we have bastards(bush, republicans) who sold country to auto lobby(ford,GM,Toyota,Chrysler) and much much worse (oil lobby, saudies)."

        We must respect other people if we want to be respected. If we forced everyone to think like us, thats mean we do not respect their freedom to think or to be different. Hey if they don't like those vehicles then go for it its same like we don't like unsafe and slow cars in this continent. They have their reasons and we have ours.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Btw, EU plans are for a 120 gram limit...
        • 6 Years Ago
        Bush hasn't given anything to Detroit.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Remember Ralph Nader and what the industry reaction?

        Did we became pedestrians or tree huggers because of him or are we (most likely) thankful?

        What would happen is others following and the industry ending up complying, after lenghty moaning, bitching and whining - as usual.

        We, we would just keep picking our choice from the available offering and doing our usual moaning, bitching and whining about anything else.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Okay, the reason why the BMW X5 and X6 are banned is because the front of the car is "too agressive".
        • 6 Years Ago
        Yeah, and the funny part is that the person who decided what may be deemed dangerous, is the same person who initiated this proposal. He claimed to have checked all 4900 cars personally in two weeks to decide whether the front end might be deemed dangerous or not.
      • 6 Years Ago
      It's not like this bill will pass. You guys are getting worked up over nothing.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Very true but the crazy nature of the proposal is worth comment and discussion. Some posters actually think it is a worth while idea to ban the Kia Rio as long as you can also wage some class warfare on a Lambo owner that drives $2K miles a year.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Ever remember who the government is?

      It's us, and someone or group brought this forward just the same as here. Will it pass? Who knows. If it does and it's not liked then the solution is vote the folks out.

      For those that don't watch and don't vote but just bitch and whine. Well, the problem is looking you right in the mirror.

      Change always starts with one person.
      • 6 Years Ago
      At least the Swiss bother to inform themselves of issues, and keep the main ones in the control of the people. Swiss receive booklets before referenda which explain both sides of the issues, including pros and cons. They actually have intelligent news coverage, and a population that is more interested in governing their country than Britney's crotch. The American government knows that we are too stupid to trust with voting on individual issues. It's much better to listen to lobbyists and corporate donors.

      The Swiss might decide that this proposal is excessive and turn it down. They might also decide that BMW, Mercedes and Porsche can reduce their huge profit margins a little to make their engines a little cleaner if they want to sell their dirty models in Switzerland.

      According to the XLS file, there are many cars that come very close to the limit, but just miss it. There are two ways to deal with that. A slightly higher limit would be much less restrictive. Keeping the limit where it is might motivate carmakers to push R&D spending into improvements which might positively affect models sold globally.
      • 6 Years Ago
      At least the Swiss bother to inform themselves of issues, and keep the main ones in the control of the people. Swiss receive booklets before referenda which explain both sides of the issues, including pros and cons. They actually have intelligent news coverage, and a population that is more interested in governing their country than Britney's crotch. The American government knows that we are too stupid to trust with voting on individual issues. It's much better to listen to lobbyists and corporate donors.

      The Swiss might decide that this proposal is excessive and turn it down. They might also decide that BMW, Mercedes and Porsche can reduce their huge profit margins a little to make their engines a little cleaner if they want to sell their dirty models in Switzerland.

      According to the XLS file, there are many cars that come very close to the limit, but just miss it. There are two ways to deal with that. A slightly higher limit would be much less restrictive. Keeping the limit where it is might motivate carmakers to push R&D spending into improvements which might positively affect models sold globally.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Poor Volvo.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Yeah, this sounds nuts. Banning stuff which the wealthy can enjoy for nothing more than a comprehensive approach to protecting the welfare of all the people while not actually impinging in any way the need for mechanized mobility in a modern society.
      I mean, there are only dozens of possible choices engineered for something other than seat of the pants fun to chose from to actually carry out the goal of transporting people and goods in a very comfortable if somewhat more sedate way.
      I mean, my god, what will they do when all the wealthy people don't want to live there.
      Housing might even begin to return to cost levels where average people can afford to live in the place they work.
      They are gonna be sooooo screwed by this insanity.
      What's next!?
      Speed limiters set to just twice the possible legal limit in any part of the country!?

      Society is collapsing around us.
      Crap like this is going to stunt development of the next 5000hp super-goeser RS. It was even going to come with its own neck brace so humans could drive it and stuff.

      - mike
        • 6 Years Ago
        Well, my rant was a good deal more generalized.
        I'm not familiar enough with the kia rio to give you a specific answer.
        I have generally observed though, that the korean brands as sold here in the US are still a little ways off the mark when it comes to the engines. So I am guessing it doesn't do quite well enough in fuel economy or combustion byproduct.
        Not that I think the Korean brands have done poorly. They have come a long way fast and it would be unfair to expect them to perfect quickly what others have been working on for decades.
        I am beginning to expect, actually, that we are seeing in these current Korean offerings the modern day equivalent of the Japanese coming into the US back in the 70s and 80s.
        So, my final answer is "I don't know."
        But, I'll still stick with my original rant.

        - mike
      • 6 Years Ago
      That's funny :). Do you have any idea how many Porsches, X5's and other big, fast and amazing cars you'll find in Switzerland? Lots! There's no way on earth this legislation is going to be adopted, it's just a stupid idea of one of the parties.
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