• Aug 6th 2008 at 1:58PM
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Project Alligator. That's the internal code-name for a potential collaboration between Mercedes and Aston Martin on everything from drivetrains to platforms. CAR's September issue gets into all the details, which includes such tasty nuggest as the possible use of AMG's 6.2-liter V8 in the next Vantage, porting over Mercedes' future eight-speed auto 'box into Astons, sharing platforms between both automaker's high-end models (think SL and beyond), cooperating on the development of diesels and hybrids, and using Aston's future products to keep Maybach alive and maybe even help the wayward ultra-luxury brand thrive with up to five new models. But it gets even bigger. A collaboration between the two could place M-B in a good position to buy Aston Martin if its new owners, including Prodrive's David Richards, decide to exit the automaking biz. As CAR points out, however, the only potential loser from Project Alligator coming to fruition is Mercedes' other partner, McLaren.

[Source: CAR]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      They just don't go together.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Another British marque in the hands of Germans...LOL
      • 7 Years Ago
      The biggest looser is Ford who could not resist to sell the icon Aston Martin for some poor bucks...
      • 7 Years Ago
      How did they coem up with project Alligator when both cars look like birds from the side view. Don't gators eat birds?
      • 7 Years Ago
      What does AM have that MB does not... i am confused... it will be great for AM... but not so much for MB...
        • 7 Years Ago
        It means MB's parts would be cheaper. They could benefit from Aston Martin's lightweight body construction - again, being cheaper because of the economies of scale. These two marques collaborating makes me froth at the mouth. Throw Alfa Romeo in the mix and you'd come out with a car version of Scarlett Johansson - flawless (well besides the smoke, tyres instead of cigs)
      • 7 Years Ago
      Sounds like Aston is getting a lot of hardware in the deal while Benz is getting panache.

      Sounds interesting, but it also sounds like a minefield of market cannibalization.

      I could see these two cars very easily existing.

      6.2 V-8
      retractable hardtop

      AM Vantage
      6.2L V-8

      That doesn't make much sense, but then again with MB going gas free by 2015, they need someone to handle the gasoline sales, maybe AM is the right fit for the high-end market.
        • 7 Years Ago
        SLs are more cruisers than anything else, whereas the Vantage, even now, can be considered a proper focused sports car. I personally think they should stick the C63's lesser engine in there, but I would totally love the 500+ bhp of the SL63's engine.

        A prettier, lighter, cooler SL63 with an AM badge... yes please
      • 7 Years Ago
      Too bad the project name isnt as epic as the collaboration.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I love Aston Martin and hope they go it alone. I know this may not make sense from a trade off point of view - they have a lot to gain from Mercedes - I just don't like Mercedes though. They have too much power and not enough beauty, their design language makes everything look like a freaking slug and i don't want to see Aston Martins filled with the same crappy components that go into Mercedes cars - it seems like everyone who I know who has owned one has had countless problems, and i am sure Astons have some reliability problems but i would rather Aston to make all of the parts and components for their own cars rather than building upon someone else's platform.

      Maybe I am just too adamant an Aston Martin fan, as i have dreamed of (and hope to) purchase one in the future and dont want to end up purchasing a handsome mercedes benz.

      I suppose i could be wrong about all of this though, in which case please tell me - this is just what i am thinking at the moment...
      • 7 Years Ago
      I know it sounds strange, but I do not see any problems on that. It is not just Aston Martin working with Mercedes... it's Aston Martin AND Ford working with Mercedes.
      What I think is that, the Concept Rapide will benefit from this fusion. I can see Aston Martin using the Class S chassis to make its 4 door coupe...
      Well we will see...
      • 7 Years Ago
      Funny how AM is Already putting good power into their cars, except for Enzo-like p/w ratios.

      @steve clark: I agree. Hopefully, there is no 'direction' implied by this.

      And MB has had such crap reliability lately, I can't see what they're going to bring.

      Does AM need/want new Engine partners or something?

      -I know the V8 was loosely based on the Jaguar one.

      They get their transmissions from ZF, right?

      Anyhoo, I can just hear James May losing his mind over this collab. w/ Ze Chermanz, guess we'll have to wait till the fall for that.
      • 7 Years Ago
      My two favourite brands in bed together? I can't wait to see their lovechild!
      • 7 Years Ago
      I hope there will be no MB buying AM, and AM should remain in its current hands, but as I said, access the the MB and AMG parts bin could do AM a load of good, and add some real magic to their cars
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