• Aug 4, 2008

In a move that will help both ailing automakers, General Motors and Ford are holding discussions about sharing engine and powertrain technologies. Although neither company will officially acknowledge the liaisons, the meetings have been going on for more than a month, according to sources. Engine and powertrain development costs are significant -- an entirely new engine could cost $1 billion, while a transmission could cost upwards of $800 million -- so splitting those costs offers substantial savings to both companies. In addition to the financial incentives, technology sharing would open doors that otherwise would have remained shut (e.g., GM sharing Volt technology with Ford). This wouldn't be the first time the two competitors have climbed in the sack together... years ago, they successfully partnered on a six-speed automatic transmission that is widely used by both companies today.

This rumor definitely makes for a fun what-if game. If these discussions bear fruit, what engines would you like shared across the aisle? A Vortech V8-powered F-150 or an LS9 Mustang GT500? How about a Malibu powered by a twin-turbo DI Ecoboost V6?

[Source: Detroit News]



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      • 6 Years Ago
      if this happens. somebody please shot me...
      • 6 Years Ago
      Sound good for the economy cars and the belly button mid-class, but leave the performance cars out of this discussion.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Does sharing technology mean sharing engines? Especially the engines that are identifiable as being GM or Ford? I wasn't thinking so. But if they combine their resources to create a flexible line of 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder engines that are more efficient than if they were working alone, then it could help. If it gets better engines in the cars, cheaper, that's win-win-win for both companies and for the consumers.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Amen to that.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Many european companies do this, for example
      BMW,Mercedes Benz and VW have BOSCH for many of their OEM componets, BMW and Peugeot are sharing the same engine found in the mini.we also have the "world Engine" which was developed by chrysler,hyundai and mitsubishi, and a variant of this engine is found on the EVO X and the caliber SRT-4.all i see is a WIN WIN for both parties if this comes true.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Maybe if they shared engines, they'd be forced to build a better car around it. Good, friendly competition!
      • 6 Years Ago
      Amen again! This is the only partnership I would agree to if I were either company! Any other company that could handle the joint venture (Toyota, Honda, VW, Tata,Dhaimler) would have to much to gain as a rival. But Ford and GM, though rivals, share turf, neighbor one another, probably employ 10,000 of each other's employees and hell, it's down right American! :)

      But with that said! Don't f*ck with the holy grail cars! Keep the Vette, Camaro, Mustang and future Cobra or GT out of each other's ways! Sharing ain't allowed!!!!

      • 6 Years Ago
      This could be a really good thing especially if the Volt technology is on the table. GM could split the costs and gain economies of scale that could make the technology available across both GM and Ford cars. GM has said they won't make any money off the Volt and that deadline of 2010 still seems like a stretch to me but this could help both of those issues. Meanwhile, Ford has alot of experience with the development of their EcoBoost technology that could give GM an immediate "boost" on certain products as they continue devlopment on the Volt.

      I don't see the problem considering that the transmission partnership worked so well. That transmission is used in everything from the Edge to Malibu (I think). Do you think anyone cares or perhaps even knows about that? I doubt it.
      • 6 Years Ago
      They exist in essentially the same market where you only need a handful of 4, 6, 8 cylinder engines total.

      Sharing 'hybrid' and/or diesel technologies would certainly get them into those small-car segments faster too.

      The savings could be huge.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'd like to see this happen only to witness the stress and ridiculous arguments of the fanboys on both sides.

      I don't see much wrong with either GM's or Ford's powertrains. Excluding the engines in the halo cars, neither has much to brag about-- they're mediocre at best, but not bad. The only potential harm I can see is a lowering of Ford's reliability rating. Ford has a marked advantage over GM in this aspect.

      You can be guaranteed they wouldn't share anything between the Camaro and Mustang-- some rivalries will never end. In the meantime, smart buyers will be shopping the imports.
        • 6 Years Ago
        its a shame, i want a ford small block in my mustang.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I think the game "what engine from ford/gm will end up in which car" is infantile.

      Think big picture here. Most engines lack significant charisma to make an impact in the driving experience, only handbuilt models or those with race heritage stand out. The vast majority of engines are quiet, sealed units that just need to make the car go when you push the faster pedal.

      In this case, everyone wins: average consumers get more efficient and reliable engines in more cars, part costs go down across the board, and more money is left for developing niche products for enthusiasts.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Go for it. Who cares if the next mid-sizers (Malibu and Fusion) share the same transmission and engine? If it were a sports car where the engine and transmission are part of the heart of the car then I would object. But for those looking for a decent family car to go from A to B, why not save costs given the hard times?
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