• Jul 24th 2008 at 4:32PM
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Following two incidents in two weeks, it looks like the ballyhooed KERS hybrid system might not make it onto Formula 1 cars for 2009 -- at least, not the first races. Teams have begun to talk about how much difficulty they're having in building a safe system. KERS not only needs to work when the car is racing around the track, it also needs to be engineered properly in the event of a 300-kph accident.

In addition to Red Bull's smoke and fumes and BMW's bolt from the blue, Mark Weber said that teams are struggling to deal with the chemicals in the batteries. Supposedly, the stuff that runs off a blown up KERS battery is poisonous arsenic. Toyota's head of engine development said all the teams are having trouble, and Williams Driver Nico Rosberg appeared to doubt whether his team would have it ready by the first race of '09. The teams have scheduled to discuss the matter at their next Technical Working Group meeting. As for us, we can live with or without KERS. Just keep the slicks, will you?

[Source: F1-Live]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      I predict (again) that it won't make it.

      I can't even figure out how the flywheel system would work. How do you tap revs from a flywheel and couple it to the wheels?

      Let's say it's at 50,000rpm. You couple it into the drivetrain it a gearing that makes it turn the wheels at a speed equal to the rate at which they are currently moving or a little faster. That's cool.

      but as you take out energy, the flywheel immediately begins to slow down. So you now the wheels on the car are going slower and slower which means the car is going slower and slower, which is the opposite of what you wanted to do.

      All I can figure out is to use a torque converter or slipping clutch, and I have to figure that thing would get ultra hot instantly due to the all the lost energy in them turning into heat.

      So how are these flywheels systems supposed to work?
        • 7 Years Ago
        Haha... replied a little late here...
        • 7 Years Ago
        Oh, they use a CVT. That explains it. Seems like a disaster in the making to me. CVT have consistently disappointed on power handling and effectiveness.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Honestly, if I were an F1 team, I would just skip KERS next year even if it is allowed. In order to finish first, you must first finish, and you'll be scoring huge points while your KERS-equipped competitors break right and left.
      • 7 Years Ago
      KERS is a bad idea for F1 and should have been vetoed by teams. I hope it fails spectacularly (but doesn't kill people), and is hastily withdrawn by FIA.
      • 7 Years Ago
      This could be interesting on the track, like BMW could unleash, instead of the extra hp for howmany seconds, a powerful bolt of electricity to disable the car nearby and pass.

      Sounds like Mario Karts :P
      • 7 Years Ago
      Kinetic Energy Recovery System. Hey autoblog, how about telling us what KERS is rather than assume we all know eyyy?
        • 7 Years Ago
        THANK YOU!! I read this thinking, "WTF is KERS?"

        "The mechanical KERS system utilises flywheel technology developed by Flybrid Systems to recover and store a moving vehicle’s kinetic energy which is otherwise wasted when the vehicle is decelerated. The energy is received from the driveline through the Torotrak CVT, engineered and supplied by Xtrac, as the vehicle decelerates, and is subsequently released back into the driveline, again through the CVT, as the vehicle accelerates. The FIA has defined the amount of energy recovery for the 2009 season as 400kJ per lap giving the driver an extra 80hp over a period of 6.67 seconds."

        That was easy.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Bart... this is the net. Is a blogger a journalist?

        I know what you are saying though.
        • 7 Years Ago
        They have... in the other two stories they have run on the subject. Besides was using Google that hard???
        • 7 Years Ago
        Damn Autoblog. Assuming we know something about previous articles and about those weird "cars." What is this arsenic? F1? Slicks? Accidents? Who is Max Mosley? What is the FIA?

        Man, so many questions! If only Autoblog defined every single word in their article!

        Imagine if there was something called the internet that someone could look stuff up on if he didn't know the definition to it..
        • 7 Years Ago
        It's writing etiquette that before you use an abbreviation you always use the full word(s) first. A journalist should hold himself to that, not require his readers to search Google.
      • 7 Years Ago
      The slicks aren't even slicks. Don't be an F1 noob. Slciks are returning next year..full slicks.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Vettel was fastest in testing due to the fact he was testing the full slick tire... They are coming for '09 unless the FIA is on crack.

        The KERS systems... not so sure & I could deal with a 2010 or 2011 debut for the green tech.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I *think* they meant "keep the slicks [for next year]" in that sentence - because Mosley threatened that they're not certainly going to be there next year...
        • 7 Years Ago
        I edited my crack comment... I was going to say:

        The slick tires are coming for '09 unless the FIA is on CRACK or five hookers, dressed in WW2 era garb are currently beating Max Mosley with treaded Bridgestones!
      • 7 Years Ago
      To the FIA:

      Put your tail inbetween your legs and walk away from KERS.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Blame Max & Bernie since it's their show.
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