• Jul 6, 2008
Dino fans rejoice, the rumormill is churning out plenty of grist about a V6 power unit in the offing for some future Ferraris. The California is already getting a V8, so Prancing Horse fans wishing for a "Dino II" will remain unfulfilled, but new approaches to high performance are key to keeping Ferrari at the zenith of autodom, lest it fall down the nostalgia hole that's seen Jaguar nearly suffocate on its own pillowy upholstery. The case for a V6 would be partly the banal issues of emissions and consumption, and a six might also offer weight and packaging advantages, though the rumors of a turbocharged mill add plumbing, weight, and complexity back into the mix. Additionally, anyone who's ever given the boot to a turbocharged engine can attest that forced induction's ability to make small engines flex big muscles, it can also lead to big-league fuel swilling, poking holes in the idea that a turbo V6 might save a lot of fuel over the direct-injected V8. Like any automaker, Ferrari is certainly looking at all sorts of "what if" ideas that will never reach production to find the right solution for the myriad technical challenges facing any automaker, let alone an exotic manufacturer. One thing's certain: a turbo V6 with Ferrari emblazoned along the cam covers would shriek with a proper Italian accent, and you have to respect any company that violently spits on the ground when the terms "SUV" or "Four-Door" are whispered.


[Source: AutoTelegraaf.nl]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      I think Nissan and Porsche have proved that a 6 can be exotic.

      There is a big difference between an inline or boxer six and a V-6

        • 6 Years Ago
        NIssans Skyline R35 has a V6 not a Straight 6.
      • 6 Years Ago
      When asked if the Dino would be marketed as a Ferarri, Enzo Ferarri replied "... a Ferarri has 12 cylinders".
        • 6 Years Ago
        @Richard

        All Dinos had V6s, except for the later 308 GT4 (which was eventually sold as a GT4 Ferrari, by the way).

        "Ferrari have competed in F1 with engines to F1 rules specification including 12s, 10s and 8s." You're right: and 4s, in the 50's, if you focusing only on F1.

        ...but Enzo was talking about client/production cars.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Ferrari. Ferrari. F-e-r-r-a-r-i.

        The Dino was sold as a Dino, not a Ferrari (after Enzo's son, who was tragically killed)...and it was a V8.

        The engine purity thing is overhyped. Ferrari have competed in F1 with engines to F1 rules specification including 12s, 10s and 8s. Any of which are Ferraris I would love to own. And all of which, certainly, are Ferraris - thoughts of il Commentadore aside.
        • 6 Years Ago
        A couple of years ago i recall rading on motor trend a quote from Ferrari's CEO at the time saying "we will never do like Porsche, i don't like turbos"
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm eager to see how this new motor pans out. It sounds like they would be shooting for about 400 hp. I'd be elated with 400 hp if the car it ends up in is 2700 lbs.

      Three out of the four Ferraris currently sold are more GT car than they are sports car. They should leave the GT car business to Maserati and get back to producing road-going race cars.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Seriously, anyone that plunks down the price of a Ferrari isn't going to care about fuel, and probably won't drive it enough to care about the environment. A turbo V6 does not qualify as "exotic".
        • 6 Years Ago
        Yea sure, a V8 isn't really exotic either.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I think Nissan and Porsche have proved that a 6 can be exotic.
        • 6 Years Ago
        A flat plane crank V8 is pretty exotic in a sea of crossplane crank v8s.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Its true that someone paying $200k will have no problems paying for the gas as well. However, EU governments are in the process of putting limits for emissions for individual car companies. So, every brand in Europe is looking for ways to bring down their C02/km.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Tell that to the Turbo'd Flat-6 owners
        • 6 Years Ago
        um.....what about F40??? One of the best Ferraris ever made!!!

        Oh, and XJ220!!! One of the best British classic!!!

      • 6 Years Ago
      Since you guys mentioned it, Ferrari could really just build a brand new V6 Dino (that is not a Ferrari), probably without turbos, to make the Ferrari experience more affordable and cheaper to run
      • 6 Years Ago
      Is it just me or does this look too much like the Maserati Gran Turismo
        • 6 Years Ago
        Being the convertible version of the Gran Turismo, I don't think it really looks that similar, but at the same time, its disappointing the more exclusive brand made it look worse...
      • 6 Years Ago
      What are you talking about "you have to respect any company that violently spits on the ground when the terms "SUV" or "Four-Door" are whispered"? There are plenty of reports that Ferrari is considering an SUV, like the F151 rumors. AFAIK Ferrari has not denied these.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Porsche is readying a 4-door and already has an SUV. Yes, I believe Ferrari would consider 4-door options. They've made a 4-seater for years.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Do you really believe that?
        • 6 Years Ago
        I recall they even threatened to sue one Ferrari owner who stretched his Maranello into a sedan or limo.. I can't recall the details, but Ferrari was furious for what he'd done to the Ferrari image and brand.
        • 6 Years Ago
        rumors are rumors, and they help auto journalists sell their magazines.
        The facts however are facts, and Ferrari is over 60 years old and has never made a production four-door or SUV, something which no other sports manufacturer of that economical size can say.

        Hell, Ferrari even launched a program to have your own personalized Ferrari made, as long as you have the money for it. Two rules: no sedans, no SUVs.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Remy, a 4.6 V8 getting more power than FoMoCo or GM can out of 5-7L V8s, how is that not exotic?
        • 6 Years Ago
        It's an engineering benchmark Yar, get over it. Electrical engineers use a similar, and no different one, transistors per square millimeter.
        • 6 Years Ago
        But it doesn't mean anything. HP/L doesn't make your car fast, fuel efficient, or anything else. Its just a nonsense figure that people repeatedly bring up to show that "inferior" cam-in-block OHV motors aren't "technologically advanced". It's BS.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Rick, first of all, engineers generally don't use transistors per square millimeter. Engineers use feature size, which is the length of the gate in the smallest transistor on the chip. This is 65nm/90nm/0.13um.

        Second of all, transistors per square millimeter would be similar to HP per unit volume (dip volume) or unit mass. Similar to power density measures for an engine.

        HP per displacement is arbitrary. It ignores the mass and size of an engine. As such, often making an engine bigger and heavier (and more costly) by adding extra valvetrain and not raising its output proportionally to the size increase actually makes HP per displacement get higher ("better") when in actuality the engine's power density goes down.

        I'm sure Ferraris do well on power density, let's talk about that instead of power per unit displacement.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Ugh, more HP/L goons...
      • 6 Years Ago
      Why would a Ferrari owner care about MPG ? let a alone the owner of this Ugly' Ugly Car...
      • 6 Years Ago
      You have to laugh at this....I'm gonna spend 200 grand on a Ferrari and my number one concern is fuel efficiency?

      If you have the dough to get one of these cars, you have the dough to spend $100 on a tank of gas. This is absurd!
        • 6 Years Ago
        I think it's clear this is a brand concern, not a client one...
      • 6 Years Ago
      This fuel saving for performance cars has to F STOP. HONESTLY do you think whoever owns a supercar can't afford fuel? F! I"m sick of this BS
        • 6 Years Ago
        Saving fuel is not a crime.

        Fuel economy on fast cars has gone up and up since the 60s. The F430 does better than a F355, despite having more power. I guess it's right out then, isn't it?
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