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Eddie @ Jun 24th 2008 12:50PM
I think it's about time that manual trans are more scarce on higher end exotic cars. Manual is way dated and a dual clutch is not only faster, but more fuel effiecient.
For all of those who say that a dual clutch is less fun... since when is going 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, regardless of shifting method, "boring?"
Pacman @ Jun 24th 2008 12:55PM
It not boring, but I would trade for a 4.0sec 0-60 and shift myself with a clutch. Personal preference. If I owned a Porsche I dont think I would give a %$#@ about a minor MPG difference between a standard and dual clutch system. What does work out o a few hundred bucks a year, at the very most? If it is b/c of the CO2 and the enviroment I was worried about I doubt I would even be in the Porsche store looking at a extra car as a toy.
Soul Shinobi @ Jun 24th 2008 12:56PM
I meant to respond to you, forgot to hit 'Reply;' please see below.
Big Slippery Wood @ Jun 24th 2008 1:01PM
So you see no difference between riding a rollercoaster and driving a car? If going fast quickly is your only criteria for fun this example is not so outlandish.
simianspeedster @ Jun 24th 2008 1:03PM
Yes, and 30 years from now, we may have GPS-guided cars that safely and efficiently drive themselves from location to location. That would represent progress in one sense (decreased traffic, reduced emissions, etc.), but's it would also represent regression (reduced freedom and driving enjoyment).
The quality of our interactions with automobiles should not be overlooked just because enjoyment can't be quantified in a 0-60 time or MPG rating. I'll drive a manual as long as I can!
-SimianSpeedster
rypt @ Jun 24th 2008 2:09PM
I think it's time auto was scarce imo. All cars should come with a manual and have two options/types: normal stick or smt controlled by paddles.
Eddie @ Jun 24th 2008 2:24PM
RE: rypt
All Cars? Who the hell would want a S600, Phantom or Maybach 62 with manual? That would be goofy.
Leo M. @ Jun 24th 2008 2:48PM
I've been living in Denmark for a year or so and I love the fact that 95% of cars here are manual. They do it to save money, and because they really don't care for Autoboxes. Most of Western Europe is like this. Although, in richer places like Switzerland, Hannover, Hamburg, the ratio is a little different. The Europeans are still way ahead of us (the U.S.) when it comes to the more enjoyable, and cheaper, 6-speed transmission :)
rypt @ Jun 24th 2008 3:54PM
Eddie, ok fine maybe not in those, but I wouldn't want one in the first place, unless I have someone else to drive me in one.