• Jun 3, 2008
We expect to see a the sixth-generation of Volkswagen's now iconic Golf model break cover soon enough, and now we are hearing rumors of some new powertrain options for the MkVI as well. According to German news site Automobilwoche, we should expect to see at least one engine of smaller displacement than the current 1.4-liter gasoline unit that powers the current Golf model in Europe. Interestingly, VW is said to be considering a possible three-cylinder engine for the base-model Golf, which could displace as little as one liter. Another possibility is a 1.2-liter version of the engine with four cylinders. To make the rumored 75 horsepower, we'd expect to see the German automaker continue its use of turbocharging, supercharging or both, as it does with some versions of the 1.4-liter engine already in use. As is usually the case, we're not holding our breath for these engines to make it stateside.
[Source: Automotive News Europe - sub. req'd]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      I was very interested in buying a VW EOS this year, well lease one, up until I met my local VW dealer. After that I don't care if this brand succeeds or fails. Considering the fraud my local dealer tried to pull on me I hope for the later just to remove them.
      • 6 Years Ago
      they've already started putting the 1.4 tsi in larger cars, such as the passat, superb and jetta so this makes sense. small turbo petrol engines are the way forward if you dont want a diesel. fiat has done wonders with them, and my owncar uses the same idea too
      • 6 Years Ago
      Why would VW need to supercharge or turbocharge a 1.4 liter engine to get 75 bhp? My 1978 Fiat x1/9 puts out that much with a 1.3 liter engine and 70's technology.

      -Buzz
        • 6 Years Ago
        I think VW needs some vtec. 1.2L = 120HP NA, and a lot more fun to drive.
          • 6 Years Ago
          Oh man, that'd be awesome (coming from an S2000 owner).
        • 6 Years Ago
        In response to several posts mentioning VW using a type od VTEC to attain more power from the smaller engines.

        Well, for one, they do, and so does just about every other automaker on the planet. VTEC is not exclusive to Honda, it's just the most well known.

        Secondly, not everyone likes to have to rev the engine sky-high to get any power out of it. The smaller Honda motors tend to have 8K-9K RPM redlines and also have power peaks that don't occur until high in the rev range as well. A 1.4L N/A VTEC engine engine with 140HP @ 7800RPM(and 95lb-ft. of torque at the same RPM) isn't going to move a 3K lb. car very quickly or efficiently. A 1.4L TSI motor with 170HP and comparable torque is a much better option.

        Turbos(and other forms of supercharging) allow the engine to have more power in the powerband that most drivers will use it. Very few people out there are redlining their engines all day long when they drive. A small-displacement high-revving N/A engine would require that to be the case.
        • 6 Years Ago
        VW 1.4TSI makes 170hp - twincharged
        in the UK Golf GT

        makes 177tq at 1500rpm

        gets a combined UK average of 38.7mpg (would be a little over 32mpg US average) but remember how much the golf weights
        uk extra urban cycle is 48.7mpg so right around 41mpg US

        if it weren't for the cost of the TSI it would make a great engine for the Rabbit to give it a boost of MPG. but i cant see the rabbit being $16xxx with TSI, more like 20k

        maybe a Rabbit GT for $19xxx

      • 6 Years Ago
      75 BHP, in a Polo or Golf is more than enough power... It's just the passengers that have got to loose some wiehgt ;)
        • 6 Years Ago
        In a Polo it's good, in the Golf it really is a bit to slow. But if the new one is gonna be twincharged theres gonna be more then enough torque.
      • 6 Years Ago
      If they pull their heads out of their butts, they'll start selling Polo's here with both small FSI motors and the bluemotion TDI.
      • 6 Years Ago
      More importantly, are they putting smaller engines in the Rabbit?

      We only get two engines, the 2.0T and the 2.5. Neither is particularly good with fuel (and the base 2.5 does worse than the 2.0). Even though they plan on selling a lot of GTIs still, there should be at least one fuel-efficient option.
        • 6 Years Ago
        You can't get a 2.0T in a Rabbit, just a 2.5L. I agree though that the Rabbit would be just fine with a 2.0L or 1.8L if it was a good motor. The 140hp 2.0L 20v n/a motor that was in British and Swedish passats with an aluminum block would be FANTASTIC in those cars. To be honest, the 2.5L is ballsy, and quite frankly, TOO much power for a base model entry level "econo-hatch". A stock 5 speed 2.5L Rabbit spanked my buddy in his "top of the line" 2002 GTI 12v VR6 5 Speed.
      • 6 Years Ago
      yeah! how about the 1.4 TSI

      • 6 Years Ago
      gee, do you REALLY think the US would want to spend 17K on a 3000lb+ car with 75 hp, german or not?

      I didnt think so either.
      I'd rather see weight get back down to 1900lbs like it was in teh late 70s
        • 6 Years Ago
        Seeing as you can already get the Golf (Rabbit) int he US for $15,900, I'd imagine with a smaller motor, more stripped down you could get one for about $14,500.

        The $17,000 one is the 4 door version which also includes heated seats, and a different center console/arm rest.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Is that even possible now with all the safety regulations out there?
      • 6 Years Ago
      With fuel prices soaring, North Americans are going to have to rapidly adopt the mindset of the vast majority of ordinary people in other developed countries around the world - that a 2.0 litre engine is actually considered quite large. If they continue to persist with their belief that anything smaller than this threshold is underpowered and pointless, then they're in for a prolonged, extraordinarily painful experience at the pumps.
      • 6 Years Ago
      well, i havent driven the rabbit 2.5 very often, only a couple of times as a rental when my sister came in from out of town. while driving it i was able to achieve about 27 to 28 on the highway pretty easily and about 17 - 19 local streets (driving around in manhattan always brings down the milege but when you visiting ny from out of town where else are you gonna be?). my daily driver is a '08 a4 2.0t auto. i average 20 on local streets and i can easily hit 30 on the highway (highest ever was 33.8). the current epa testing i feel is not that accurate in terms of what kinda milege a car can get since i think my car suppose to only do like 27mpg on the highway. the rabbit would probably get better milege if i wasnt driving in manhattan and if it wasnt a rental that probably never ever had its oil changed lol.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Not mentioned in the article: "The US will be getting a new 2.6 liter cast iron five cylinder that makes 172 HP and 26 MPG in combined driving"

      I really wish Americans would get over this fear that if the car can't do 0-60 in under 8 seconds the car is "Unsafe".
        • 6 Years Ago
        It's a gung-ho American mentality. Ever seen any of those huge pickup trucks with anything in the bed? Or any 7 passenger SUVs with more than 2 passengers?

        It's a race to die with the biggest, baddest and most over the top toys. It's what I call the Dennis Leary state of mind (from his early 90's comedic skit)
        • 6 Years Ago
        The current base engine in the Jetta/Rabbit really is a laughable bit of product planning.

        2.5 liters, 175 horses,
        • 6 Years Ago
        Amen! ...Though thats what's going to happen, I still have unreasonable hope for a smaller-bored variant of the 2.0T. Maybe a 1.6T that makes 160hp and gets 26/38 mpg? Oh what a small car motor that would be, and it would even reuse a lot of VAG's US infrastructure.
      • 6 Years Ago
      If VW makes a twincharged 1.0 Inline 3 cylinder engine, it should make 125hp 125 ft-lbs.
      Coupled to VW's 7 speed double clutch transmission, it should move a 2850lbs Golf 6 just fine.
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